+++ Watson Calls in Carter Ruck +++
Statement Released by Carter-Ruck Solicitors:
“We have today been instructed by government minister Tom Watson, MP for West Bromwich, in connection with allegations concerning him and the emails exchanged between Damian McBride and Derek Draper relating to a proposed website entitled ‘Red Rag’.
“We have today written to the editors of the Mail on Sunday and the Daily Mail to complain about the publication of the false allegation that our client had knowledge of, and participated in, Mr McBride’s actions.
“We have made it clear that our client has confirmed to us that he was not copied in on any of the emails exchanged between Mr McBride and Mr Draper, nor was he aware of them or their content until their existence was first drawn to the attention of Downing Street by national newspapers, on Friday April 10.
“He still has not seen them. We have further made it clear that our client had no involvement in or knowledge of the ‘Red Rag’ website.”
The Mail should ask to see all the emails between McBride and Watson over the last year as part of the discovery process. Will be worth the money…
oh who’s a silly boy then! there is no faster way to hoist yourself on a very public petard than to decry your innocence and call in Carter Ruck when you’ve got something to hide…. now who was that tory chap who sued a paper for defamation? did time later on??
Tom Watson is up to his neck in it.
I don’t think these goons realise what utter fools they are making of themselves. They just cannot put their hands up when caught out….they run like squealing pigs and try and divert all the attention – it really is quite pathetic (but amusing) to watch these spineless cowards in action. Besides if Watson has nothing to hide, why go to Carter Ruck? He is just digging a deeper hole for himself. What an arrogant sod he is. Hope he loses his seat at the next election
Who pays Carter-Fuck? Not Watson, I’ll wager.
That’s if he had a neck.
http://www.redrag.co.nz/
Is this the Labour red rag website that Gordon doesn’t know about ??
As idle says, let me guess who is paying Carter-Fuck’s fees … the taxpayer?
Thak Ruck I don’t pay tax! It could be quite expensive.
Thank Ruck I don’t pay tax! It could be jolly expensive.
Oh, bugger.
Damian McBride must be smarting, all very well to be pilloried by the opposition, that is part of the game. However to be dropped like a hot potato by your own side must really hurt big time, no job, no colleagues, no friends, nowhere to go.
Time for Max Clifford to come a calling, or one of the big Sundays, how attractive is a really big pay day, with an opportunity to dish the dirt, get back at your former friends, that’ll teach them to mess with you. Could even bring the government down, how attractive is that. Live abroad comfortably in the medium term, and come back when you are all but forgotten, not a bad scenario, this is what I would do.
Not a good idea for Tom Watson to do this right now, should have waited until Damian’s intentions were clear, perjury and all that, this country takes a dim view.
What discovery process? This is just a letter clarifying their client’s position.
Goons Margy? Well if the cap fits you. Loser.
Yup, won’t go as far as anyone suing anyone and thus no prospect of discovery. I suggest this is just a bit of tinsel that the Beeb etc can “report on”. The required effect being that the great unwashed get the impression that some sort of defence/counterattack is going on (indeed possible) whereas in fact they are just trying to avoid the fooking heat seeking missile.
Kris Alienz you are clearly both a goon and a hoon!
Expected response from both Mails:
“We refer you to the reply given in the case of Arkell v. Pressdram”
Its CarterFcuk after all – Private Eye sure to publish a special!
Jonathon Aitken – and my congratulations on making a point without profanity. It’s the only thing that ruins this blog when the eyes of the world are upon it
Hi Anonymous how are you tonight you old duffer?
I’ll promise not to swear if you promise to fuck off.
Oh my god, long posh words like profanity. Must be one of us
No smoke without fire.
He’s called in Carter-Fuckup.
How do you find the defendent. Guilty M’Lud on all counts.
Surely if he’s ‘nothing to hide – nothing to fear’ the wise thing would have been say his original piece about not being involved & then just sit & wait for the fuss to die down – which it would have eventually. This way, people are bound to think the worst of him & he’ll be really f***** if the MOS have any evidence, however cirumstantial.
I sincerely hope that Watson is paying Carter Ruck himself, and not us, that is the taxpayer. Or more precisely private business and non state workers.
Lola, think about, gravy train, they’re all on it why should they pay for anything?
Can’t he just put it on expenses? As MP’s can put everything else on expenses. No point in paying them a salary in fact.
This kicks any public investigation of Watson’s involvement into the long grass.
In a years time he will be firmly ensconced in the House of Lords earning a very nice living.
Libel case will be dropped.
News will have moved on.
Scott Free is the expression.
A peerage didn’t stop Jeffrey Archer from doing time. And the govt wants to change the rules of the Lords to be able to chuck out those with a criminal record.
Watson won’t be allowed to get away with this when the Tories are in office.
Haven’t you noticed, Die Labour, that things have changed.
Lords of the Realm are now sent down on the basis of (possibly) texting whilst driving, killing a pedestrain and, subsequently walking away Scot free with no criminal record.
It’s what Bliar called ‘the third way’.
So are the sky high fees for Carter Fuck of all people being charged to the taxpayer as well?
Shurley shome mistake!
The first resort of the guilty is to rush to the lawyers.
Lets look at how they work.
They tout for business that can earn vast fees.
They bully people into submission by racking up costs that the other side cannot afford to pay (big mistake this time)
Their costs are inflated by the employment of juniors who faff around for months asking inane questions and achieving nothing.
The law does not question the fees other than in the most trivial sense.
But worst of all lawyers are NOT obliged to attempt to verify the truth of their client’s claim (direct quote from the law society) – hence they can distance themselves while taking their money (prostitutes spring to mind). In fact THEY are the main beneficiaries of any claim and take no risk in spreading lies (Mishcon de Reya and Archer are classic examples where the judge swallowed it all hook line and sinker – you have to wonder why a ‘learned’ gentleman was so stupid)
Everyone here who is represented by a Labour MP should demand of that MP the full facts of the claim and an ABSOLUTE assurance that the costs will NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES be passed on to the tax payer.
And the commercial lawyers are a massive tax on struggling private sector companies, they should be called Brown Lawyers!!
The problem is that Broon has gone firm on “nobody else involved” so if Watson losses he take his master with him.
Cling together guys the life-jackets won’t save you.
Any news on who’s going to pay.
I foresee “The Lamont Criteria for Legal Aid” being invoked, i.e. is this going to hurt politically, if so then the tax payer can pick up the bill, And Carter ruck realy know how to chargeat one time boasting they were the most expensive of an expensive bunch.
If he is paying I realy hope he issues writs if so Ishall sit back and watch the show, I will even bring popcorn, and a coke…
You’ve got it all wrong.
Two Dinners Tommy has only called in Carter-Fuck to dismiss the rumour that he eats three dinners (at one sitting).
Going to scrub the web for him like they did for Auchi ?
Witness the McCann’s! When will Guido and friends go for the Blair/Brown entourage and the ex govt MMU man Clarence Mitchell and his pre-approved pre-digested pap served up for papers to print without getting sued!
Farter Cack – typical of a ZaNuLab minister to be able to afford such luxuries.
He’s got the wind up!
he’s probably using all that tax payers money he’s stashed away
In the statement he only denies knowing about the emails. He isn’t though saying anything about the smear process overall being hatched.
Funny that.
It wuould be fantastic! It could even throw some light as to whether any ministers knew what was going on. They’ve been been spouting their mouths off all day on the BBC stating how no-one in No.10 knew what was going on. Go on Daily Mail, it could finish this bunch off.
Oh I see a lovely scene in my crystal ball – Brown being forced to appear as a witness in Watson vs. Daily Mail……
Watson is an idiot of the highest order, the Order of the Broken Nokia I think.
If the Daily Mail claim asylum they could qualify for legal aid?
and there are fairies at the bottom of my garden! Hello trees, hello sky!
Come on Guido, just print everything you’ve got, we haven’t got time for all this Deep Throat business. Spill the dirt
As Grandma said yesterday-slowly slowly catchee monkey. Guido knows what he’s doing – just let’s keep supporting and let Tom Watson keep digging his hole, hopefully it will get so deep he won’t eventually be able to get out of it.
No, Guido, nice and slow until they hang themselves! First day in court might be good timing!
I think the unkind way that Private Eye misspell Carter – Ruck, is relevant here. Watson must be Rucked! How come he hasn’t seen the emails!
Only guilty people feel the need to throw money at Carter-Ruck
Didn’t the McCanns spend a chunk of the proceeds to their “appeal” on Carter-Ruck?
Do you know how big my garden is?
Carter-Ruck. They don’t come cheap. It costs a few quid to gag the press.
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id205.html
Funny how people say this, but also say, if you were innocent you’d sue for libel. You can’t have it both ways.
In fact, this is a good development. The Mail usually stand their ground when sued, so libel litigation may bring out the whole truth.
Many a libel claimant has been left wishing that he had never gone down the Strand – Aitken and Archer to name but two…
He’s not sueing.
He’s got C-R to write a letter of complaint
The procedure is that you have to write a letter of complaint, in this case to the Mail, before you can sue.
So far as I know, nobody has seen this letter except Carter Ruck and the Mail. So it may just be an expensive way to complain, or it may end in a threat to sue. Time will tell.
Last throw of the dice….then its move on to Gordon time.
I trust Watson are paying for Carter Ruck personally?
yes he will be personally getting the tax payer to foot the bill.
LOL! Good one GR. All the despots, closeted celebs, scientologists and hoons go to Carter Fuck when the preverbial effluence hits the fan.
eh? they wouldn’t take him on if they thought they would lose, unless he is actually paying for it.
In reply to the poster “guido for toiseach” it’s Taoiseach….Taoiseach. Geddit right ya Fenian rebel bustard.
As this is an English language blog the mot juste would be ‘prime minister’. You never hear the BBC referring to the French premier ministre, so why are they always sucking up to the Fenians?
I recall they planned to do the same with the Welsh First Minister but apparently the Welsh name for that came out as ‘Penneth’ or something which sounded suspiciously like ‘Penis’ (if you had a lisp)
Urban myth maybe but there you go…
Having just watched the Six O’clock news I think you have given us a gift that just keeps giving Guido. It realy isn’t going to go away and it may yet bring down Broon. Well done Guido! and thank you so much for doing the job of all the other so called journo’s in Britain.
FURIOUS BROWN ‘FRUSTRATED’ THAT EMAIL SCANDAL WON’T GO AWAY
Daily Express
FURIOUS BROWN ‘FRUSTRATED’ THAT EMAIL SCANDAL WON’T GO AWAY
Tuesday April 14,2009
By Geoff Marsh for express.co.uk
GORDON Brown was ‘furious’ when he found out about the smear emails written by a key aide about top Tories, his spokesman claimed today amid renewed Tory pressure for an inquiry into the scandal.
you can even have your say so ‘fill your boots’
Oh wow, even have our say! How democratic!
Watson’s a stupid fat Hunt. The sooner he’s in prison the better.
This is awesome. What are the odds on him perjuring himself and ending up in prison a la Archer and Aitken? That would be worth popping a bottle of bubbly for.
You beat me to it.The witness box is an unforgiving place if you’re not anything other than squeaky clean when you’re the claimant in a defamation action.Bad move,Watson.
Can you imagine having to call Draper as a witness in your defence?
Perhaps he can borrow that greasy spiv Aitkins sword of truth? Its all so funny it hurts to breathe, the utter fool!
Just saw a picture of Draper on Ch4 news. Fucking hell, what a shambling wreck of a man.
As for Watson, he looks like a nonce.
“He looks like a nonce”
Of course, there’s no place in politics for personal smears, right?
161 is expressing a personally held opinion, however bizarre. I think he looks like a fat bastard.
I think he looks like two fat bastards.
189,
Looks like a fat bastard or is a fat bastard?
Oh, dear, oh dear!
Running to Carter-Ruck is not the most intelligent thing he could have done.
The most sensible thing would have been -presuming innocence, etc, etc- would have been for him to have got Gordon to sort out Draper and McBride.
However, having launched the leviathan smoke generator that is good old Carter-Ruck will make people say: “Oh! No smoke without fire, eh?”
He’s a fool to himself, Tom Watson.
If he is innocent he is guilty of not keeping a close eye on McBride and Draper.
Eye off ball, Watson? Now see what you have done!
The game is up – no one calls Carter-Fuck unless they are really desperate.
hoohohohho
I’m pretty sure he’s not innocent – the fat hoon
last throw of the dice
Just wanted to use that name.
Gordo was probably not consulted on this by Tubby4 and will be screaming his poor little eyes out. Hardly drawing a line under it, is it?
Teamwork has gone.
What this is now about is individual members of Government fighting for their personal survival. If that requires treading on someone’s face or stabbing them in the back so be it.
GB is obviously toast, so they will all queue up to blame it on him
eye
Guido, who’s going to play you in the film? Robert Redford or Dustin Hoffman?
Robby Coltrane?
Redford and Hoffman would be good for Guido and Dale. Question is is there a deep throat?
Think that’s Dale’s department!
…sorry Iain!
that could have been Robbie Coltrane in that video of guido standing outside the Berkley Institute
On past form and looking at the sycophancy bordering on cock sucking of the adulterer Andrew Marr for Gordon Brown, I’d say Marr has to be deep throat
Jack que ‘Bower’ Smith as The Smoking Man
James Mason!
I think Guido deserves no less than Johnny Depp.
Jacqui Smith?
A natural choice……
Oh dear, reaching for the lawyers eh? Mr Watson is up to his neck in this and sat next to McSpunk. Now, trying to prove it may be a little difficult….
And Guido, I keep hearing hints of connections about to be made public between McSpunk and gang and mainstream journalists, any further shit heading for the fan?
Yes, – but there was no exchange of bodily fluids you know
Yes , that could be quite interesting if it ever came to court, which somehow I doubt it will. A jury might be asked to decide if it is reasonable to assume, in the absence of documentary evidence, whether two friend, engaged in broadly the same project of snot support, sat next to each other for months on end and didn’t tell each other what they were up to. This would seriously bewilder me for all of 5 seconds.
I wonder who controls the No10 secure e-mail server, the head of the Cabinet Office or some fat bastard of a greasy political ape?
Is the head of the Cabinet Office for sale?
Have the hard disks had a recent total failure and did they need urgent replacement?
This is a ruse by Watson. The jury will include taxpayers if this ever gets near a court. He’s mad to even think about it.
Desperate stuff.
umbrella fully open
Tom Bradbury on ITV news has just said things could b eterminal for Broon if he doesn’t come out and say sorry.
No10 absolutely hate Bradbury. First he’s head and shoulders above Robinson and secondly he’s a bit of a toff, who’s mates with Prince William.
Just the sort of chap to have Brown foaming at the mouth….
Also, he’s got some hair.
Bradbury is a vain egotistical primadonna but not a heavyweight journalist.
Columbo
aka Peter Falk
Spot on.
Parliament ought to add into one of its hundreds of new bits of legislation on the criminal law a rule that if someone instruct Carter *uck then they are to be presumed guilty of everything until proven innocent. I hope that the Mail reply in the conventional Private Eye style i.e. “Ruck off”
If I remember correctly Private Eye didn’t start referring to them as Carter Fuck until they objected to being referred to as Farter Ruck.
farter fuck then
Actually its
“We refer you to the reply given in the case of Arkell v. Pressdram”
That’s because the answer in Arkell -v- Pressdram was “Ruck off” or words to that effect.
One of the most enjoyable of Private Eye’s many running feuds is the baiting of Farter Fuck – mind you parasites are always hard to burn off
21
Sorry that was for Gorgon
“We have made it clear that our client has confirmed to us that he was not copied in on any of the emails exchanged between Mr McBride and Mr Draper, nor was he aware of them or their content until their existence was first drawn to the attention of Downing Street by national newspapers, on Friday April 10″
…which still leaves scope for him knowing what was going on, even if he was unaware of the emails and of their contents…, moreover, he can easily deny knowledge of the details of the Red Rag website, without admitting whether or not he knew of the plan in general.
He must be getting desperate when he has to call in the lawyers to try putting the frighteners on those who wish to draw the obvious conclusion about the likelihood of his involvement. Hopefully the press will stand up to his bullying.
P.S. Can we hear the trial in The Court of Public Opinion please?
ooo yeah! The court of public opinin really ought to hear that one…thanks for reminding me, I had forgotten that gem!
Damn, you beat me to that. I hoped I was going to be the first to post on that. Well spotted Sir.
Surely if they work in the same office there would be no need for Watson to be cc’d in their e-mails? He could just look over their shoulders. And frankly, calling in the lawyers screams guilt to me.
He doth protest too much. And I simply don’t believe that such a strategy was thought up, discussed, and stories invented without the knowledge and/or approval of Crash Gordon, let alone his closest advisors.
I hope the Tories sue and the Mail stands its ground. It’ll make great headlines, if nothing else!
Watson is well and truly fucked
Exactly … and so he should be carted off!
Tom Bradbury on ITV news just said it could be terminal for Boon unless he comes out and says sorry. Unbelievable.
Come on Bradby boy, stick the knife in deeper!
I saw that! At last, someone in the media with a pair…
Yes. Any apology uttered by McLoon for anything would be unbelievable. A bottle of Scotch and a pistol in a locked room would be preferable.
With dum dums
Sor…sor…srrr..sorr…dam youse…It wisnae me it was the big fat lad in the stripy suit did it an ran away.
That rope is getting longer and longer and if there are emails with his name on them lies are going to hang him
Who is paying the solicitor’s fees?
his 2nd home expenses, watson is……guilty as charged, let it go to court and see the shit that comes out to cover the corrupt twat……………costs awarded against him with a bit of luck!!
Ask him
Conditional Fees (No win – No fee)
Ambrose Silk I expect…Tra La
Is it just me or does Watson bear an uncanny resemblance to Isa Drennan from BBC’s ‘Still Game’? (She’s the one drinking sherry.)
He bears a very close resemblance to anything sweaty, fat and ugly.
I’ve seen better looking slugs!
Discovery in the courts seems to be just about the only way the truth will out, excellent own goal there.
On a separate note, I see the BBC HYS site has only now opened this sorry mess up as a topic, what possible reason could there have been for the delay? No, I just can’t think of one either.
Worse than bugger probably.
BBC HYS site has only now opened this sorry mess up as a topic.
What. Along the lines of “As Mr. Brown had no knowledge of these emails are the Tories being disingenuous in demanding an apology from our Great Leader.”
BBC HYS is (generally) the realm of frothing incoherent loons with worthless and/or hackneyed opinions.
The commentary here is much more original, incisive and entertaining.
“Hackneyed opinions” – nothing wrong with them, necessarily. If something is true, then it is reasonable for opinions to reflect that.
Will Mssrs Carter & ruck be put on expenses?
Good point, will the Taxpayer have to pay for this!!!! I bet we do!!!
Porn yes.
Solicitors..absolutely
difficulet to tell the difference really….
Watson feels safe on the email denial. Possibly because any exchange may have been via personal email using untraceable nom de guerre.
However Watson must have his head right up his anus if he thinks he will get away, in the witness box under oath, a denial that McFilth at no time discussed either Red Rag or the idea of a smear blitz against Cameron/Osborne. Watson probably generated the idea but left details to McFilth.
And Pilate Brown.
We know he wishes to destroy Cameron/Osborne. We know he is viscious and vindictive by his track record and his employment of Watson and McFilth. Brown knows/instructed a personal attack on Cameron/Osborne as part of his reelection strategy.
These are the facts. They will emerge.
Leave him alone you beasts!!!!!!!!
Oh you are awful…
and we hate you
WatPot must be running scared but it doesn’t matter what he does, no one with half a grain of sense will think that he knew nothing of what was intended. He worked side by side with McSnide and McTwat in the same office.
Also, much careful choosing of words here – they all deny knowing about the emails and their contents but say nothing about the campaign, idea or project overall. Surely the Great Larder didn’t invite Dolly to Checkpoint Charlie, just for the company or the crack – Dolly can’t string a sentence or a single coherent thought together.
Labour are, as Field says, staring into the abyss. If I were Farter Cack, I would make sure I got paid up front – or preferably not have taken on this client in the first place. It won’t do their brand any good. I wonder if they’ll be blackballed by decent people.
It’ll be a no win no fee
Carter Ruck do not enter into conditional fee arrangements unless they are confident they can win, which is not very likely here.
Didn’t he Twitter for Schilling’s number though? Perhaps they turned him down.
Decent people don’t use Carter Ruck
Did Brown invite McBride to Chequers when Draper was there just after setting RedRag site up.
If he was it doesn’t take much imagination as to what was the main topic of conversation.
Not true. Brown was keen to get Drapers views on the global recession and measures he might be able to employ to speed up the recovery. Brown also wanted Drapers views on Afghanistan and a planned withdrawal and how the Bank of England might more successfully implement quantative easing.
To imply that Draper is a shit head is unfair and does not credit him with the vast worldly knowledge he has gained over the years.
Gordon knows
Guido, please tell me that when we all wake up on Friday morning and check in with your blog, there, right at the top, will be a photo of fatboy Watson with a rifle sight on his fat florrid face?
And that when we watch the Sky News paper review of the Saturdays later that night, there is only one story dominating (in a respectable paper like The Times, please) – Watson revelations exposes himself and Brown as liars. Just in time for all the Sundays to get their journos on the case.
Oh joy that I would live to see the day when Broon is forced, with his tail between his legs, to take that lonely drive to the Palace to tender his resignation a year ahead of schedule.
oooops, he has just dug his own grave, the complete and utter twat, when in a hole stop digging but this twat hires a JCB for himself, if it goes to court he will drag the whole sorry mess on for months, the authorities are itching to cover this thing up and bury it and twatso Watson is fucking things up for them big time!
Every bit of evidence will be combed over, all the dirt will come out in court, all the e-mails all the phone records etc, computer records and court appearences by the No10 gangsters having to answer some very unwelcome questions, what a uber hoon this hoon is!
Does this tit think the MSM can be cowed like in the old days?
Having a fucking childish foot stamping tantrum because he got caught, whinning like bully given a thrashing, shits like him have got so used to bullying and threatening the MSM and others that they just cannot take being faced down for once.
The writing is on the wall, gone are the days when vermin like him could make a sinister phonecall and all would be well, his days of lording it are over and he is too thick to realise it, he will fucking realise it soon, ha ha ha ha ha ha, hope you choke on it Watson you hoon.
Took the words right out of my fingers Ms King.
When will he realise that he’s toast and that there is nothing Carter-Fuck can do for him except generate a huge bill?
I suspect this is actually another smokescreen – £650 to generate the letter and nothing else but hope that their reputation will shut Guido etcetera up.
Plato,
Just want to say, love the book you wrote ‘Republic’ whens the film coming out and will Brad Pitt be in it?
Your adoring fan
Cassie k.
Joking aside, I am so happy, Im choking on me horlicks! ha ha ha ha ha how the worm turns eh?
If Carter-Fuck and Watson want a target, I’m very willing to libel Watson personally, as I have no assets and don’t give a toss for libel laws.
Some digging should get my email address – I await your email, Tom ‘Two Dinners’ Watson, you slimy smearing duplicitious bully.
Apparently, Watson also likes little boys…
Looks to me that Watson wants to force that reptile Mandy into the open thus making sure Brown goes down too. “Watson isn’t going down alone”, seems to be what he’s threatening.
“Brown goes down” I smell litigation. The ambulance chasing shysters will be on this like stink on shit
All joking aside I think you are right. Watson calling in the shysters sounds to me like desperation. If I go down, so do you.
isn’t going down alone
That’s what Clinton’s Commerce Sec’y Ron Brown said . . some days later his plane flew into a mountain in Croatia, such a pity.
A perfect post, Cassandra King.
I love you.
They are all vermin, every single one of the shit Hunt zanulabourfuckpigs.
Cheers Mikey!
Cassie K.
He’s just a modern day Robert Maxwell, only this time the threat of writs won’t wash
Draper in the witness box should be interesting.
Was he McBride’s boss?
If so didn’t he know what was going on in his own office? This wasn’t some trivial tittle tattle. It was a planned disinformation operation. They bought a domain and set up a web site and as Nadine Dorries has said there was a concreted attempt over last few months to plant these stories in the mainstream press who wouldn’t touch them with a barge pole.
Good ole’ Frank Field…
http://www.frankfield.com/blog/q/date/2009/04/14/darkness-at-the-heart-of-the-labour-party/
I once bumped into Frank on the Wirral, a really nice guy, IMHO
a very honourable man. Not many of his kind left.
The way Labour are going they could end up with just Frank left in Parliament*…which would be no bad thing.
*-Assuming lobotomies are also done on the NHS in ‘core’ Labour voting areas
Frank Field. Not of my politics but probably one of only 2 or 3 left in Parliament with any decency, honesty and integrity.
Remember when Field critisised McMental about the 10p tax theft? he was called into No10 and bullied/threatened so much by the mcMental/Mcpoison crew that he looked like he was going to cry when he stood up in parliament and read out a crawling appology to McHoooon, ill always remember that and I hope Field remembers it too.
PAYBACKS A FUCKING BITCH WATSON!
Yes we remember, our time will come.
Not much of a man if he didn’t put his principles first.
If he had any balls he would have told Brown to do his worst.
Brown would have backed down,bullies usually do when you stand up to them.
Frank is proper Labour. The country should be proud of people like him. He must wonder where it all went wrong.
He bit his tongue and grovelled to Brown in the commons.
Anything to cling on to power,he is no better than the rest of Labour.
Here here!
For fuck’s sake. It’s “hear hear”. If you could spread the word down at your illiterate commentators’ club, I’d be grateful.
Hear Hear!!
you could try
“Applause”
Or, when the men in white coats come for Gordon, ‘there, there’.
Serious question..do we think he may cross the floor?
It’s funny that Gordon can find the time to talk about the Hillsborough disaster on tv but not the time to explain himself to the nation about McBride and Co.
He’s trying to look concerned, caring and nice – just like the jabberwock.
Ah well if the MSM had balls they wouldn’t allow the bogeymeister to spout any of his shit unless he answered the questions we want answered.
Hillsborough just another bandwagon for McSnot.
He has clarified his position on the e-mails…he is now officially ‘furious’, an upgrade from ‘angry’ which is his official position on Bankers. Oh how he wishes he could talk about the economy again.
Carter & Ruck legal bill to taxpayer… £124,500
Brown dragged out of Downing Street… Priceless
It’s no joke. Brown really will have to be dragged out of the place. Kicking, screaming, crying, begging. It’s going to be a terrible sight. But what did he expect anyway? It’s not as if anyone voted for him.
What worrys me is the damage the twats do in the mean time. I think snotty is going for the scorched earth effect
Don’t be suprised if he calls a state of emergency, postpones an election and imprisons the entire front bench for (an initial) 28 days.
Just dont be suprised
The ‘Downfall’ spoofs are beginning to look surprisingly accurate. Snotty really does resemble Hitler, it seems.
… but Gordo is trying to please Mail readers, not alienate them, so Watson has just blown a hole in Gordo’s masterplan for re-election. Oh dear, sales of Nokia phones have just risen again…
We’re up shit creek
Whats more I have just watched all over again Draper lying
to Guido on the Andrew Niel show on the BBC news as well as
seeing Nadine and Cameron refusing to be placated by fatso’s
letter. It gets better by the hour never mind Smithy’s blue movies
this is far more entertaing don’t you think?
Media support seems to be waneing a little HA! HA !
My husband’s got his hands full right now.
trying out the 88p bathplug dear?
Now he really is fucked.
sauve qui peut
Ah, the simple Sword of Truth. A double-edged weapon.
Farter Fat Fuck more like.
This Obese, Porcine Hoon drunkenly threatened a friend of mine who is in
The Labour movement (some of whom are surprisingly decent and Intelligent people) just because he holds different views.
He typifies all that is wrong with “New Labour”
Fat ,bullying never had a real job In their lives closet Queen Hoons!
He’s got a small cock too.
& it smells of Gordon Brown’s arse
But the Judge will be “common purpose”
HEHEHE HEEEEEEEEE
HUHUHU HUUUUUUUU
Could be interestng if the editors of the Mail on Sunday are being bullied. A public invitation to sue is either not taken up and everyone draws their own conclusions or it goes to court. Who knows what might be uncovered in a court case? Nokias must be flying in all directions
Tsk Tsk think of the cost of replacement and repairs to priceless Downing Street furnishings – all on our taxes!
Hopefully the curator of the Government Art Collection will have substituted all the valuable artworks in Downing Street with cheap copies when Gordon moved in.
January 11th, 2009 |
“Charlie Whelan is writing for Labour List. I’m going to sign up.”
from the archive page of Two Pie Watsons blog . Just afew days before the e mails sent from Downing St.
Hmmm, Mcbride gone, Draper dead-in-the-water, Watson struggling…yes let’s get that twat Whelan as well.
Get the one-eyed-Knave too and we have a flush!
Good interview with the political editor of the indescribably which ended with him saying that Brown has lost any credibility that he may have had – well worth a look if you can find it.
Judging by the rest of the news, it sounds like a war with N Korea is a little closer – the things these buggers are trying in an attempt to cover this story up!
Brilliant a long protracted legal fight, wonderful. What a slimy little Toad. I think Brown has no choice but to kick him out of Number 10. If he doesn’t then this is going to remain in the press for a long time. Oh it’s been a long time coming but they might just have finally hung themselves.
Conversation between One Eye and Wankstain
One Eye: What the fuck are you doing taking the Mail to court, this is going to stay top of the news pile now. I’ve told everyone that I know to keep repeating “draw a line under this and fucking move on” you fucking retard.
Wankstain: Well you told me, never apologise, deny everything and always hide under a rock.
One Eye: Well you’ve done a good job of hiding under a fucking rock and by the way this my rock you are under and you are touching my bum.
HahaPerson: That wasn’t Tom.
Ginger Winger: Gordon have you farted.
Ole’ Eybrows: Sorry that was me, Hazel can get your left tit out of mouth it tastes like rancid Piss
Ginger Winger: That’s because it’s not my left Tit Al.
Padded Cell door opens and the light is switched on
Nurse Mandy: Ok guys it’s medication time, Oh Hazel have you been playing with yourself again, and Gordon Someone has drawn moustache on your face in shit. you really are a bunch Hunts.
You bastard, my ribs hurt from laughing.
*applause*
Is somebody making notes? That could win a Bafta
Can you get BAFTAs for reality TV?
more more more more!
Simply brilliant!
Tipped mhat & a pint’s in the t’in ternet!!
10/10
Simply Brilliant!
Funny as fuck!
10/10
Thanks. I now need a new keyboard, I just choked/spat a load of coffee over the old one! Top stuff!
Brown resigns and opens his Faith Foundation to absolve his sins.
Tony could give him a discount.
St Tone must be absolutely pissing himself laughing.
Which faith would take him? (Apart from all the weird fuckers in the good ol’ U S of A – where Phoney Bliar is coincidentally)
I’m saying a ittle prayer.
Bless you!
Macbugger. This will need at least three dumps to get things cleared.
Paddling hard up the creek; oooh its such fun when you get paddled on the arse he said as he sweated over his keyboard…the prime words here are “complain” and not “injunction” Take no bloody notice.
The pigs are squealing !!!
He knows that as soon as the knife is in, it is only a matter of time before all the blood runs out !!!
TERMINATE HIM !!! WITH EXTREME PREJUDICE !!!
Maybe it is a clever pre-emption. They’re all going to hire the top libel lawyers, so that they are unavailable should Mad Nad, Mrs Osborne, and all come round to sueing.
Given the employers who supplied the email accounts and paid for the blog space have deep pockets, it would be tempting to sue them too.
SMEARGATE will live long in Nixon/Brown saga.
Discovery would produce all my emails
Tra-la
Watson is only employing messrs Sue Grabbitt and Runn as a frightener.As pointed out on previous posts, to put the thing into Court would be a disaster for Brown and co; but it could be a threat to them as well: support me or I will spill ALL the beans
Agreed, it’s a spoiling tactic. But I hope the Mail publish something to rile Watson and to get this into the courts. The Mail could then set up a public defence fund and I bet they’d get a ton of donations so that the whole of Britain can see exactly what has been going behind the door at No. 10
Aren’t Grabbitt & Runn affiliated with Goode, Rich & Pickens? I do hope the papers take up the challenge.
Sounds to me like a case for renowned Newcastle law firm Hadaway and Shite.
“it could be a threat to them as well: support me or I will spill ALL the beans”
Yep, that’s the long and the short of it I think – the only way this makes sense.
Oh dear.
Poor old Two Tummies. Can he possibly afford m’learned friends (even on the collossal stipend he and his clan extract from us all)? Does this mean that the bill must fall to HM Treasury?
One imagines that Master Darling would mark it “please pay slowly” as it crossed his desk.
What a dreadful distraction from the Work of National Importance at the Ministry for Digital Engagement – clearly some sort of superior online dating service for the political, but unattractively stout.
And surely he can’t mean to upset the Great Leader’s favourite Editor, Sir Paul Dacre?
But what tremendous self-discipline on the part of the Minister himself – he STILL hasn’t looked at the naughty messages.
So how does he come to the conclusion that association of his name with their content could in any way be a cause for concern?
Lies, lies, more lies…..corruption, sleaze, porn, purveyors of filth, greed, perversion, excess, incompetence…..the list goes on and on!!
ZaNuLab…. whiter than white, moral politics………??????
Actually I am shocked and stunned at their behaviour …….. and to think I thought that they were honourable people…just shows how naive I am !!!
I can’t believe he’s called in Carter-F@ck. The Eye will be having a field day with this.
this just gets better and better…its almost surreal….is it a dream? Pinch me Derek, Pinch me. (on second thoughts don’t, you don’t look like you’ve had a bath this year).
Hi Kate, I would have thought you’d have tidied Derek up a bit by now!
wel i tried cinna, i tried. but he kept saying i couldn’t dance for toffee so why should he shave…
But the problem is that they are all as ‘thick as thieves’ in Number 10 and surely they aren’t stupid enough to incriminate each other ??
It will be political ‘omerta’ or ‘swim with the fishes’..
It’s imploding. Their DNA forbids taking resposibility for anything at all. And it’s like a black widow’s hen party – we’ve had sex for 12 years and now it’s time to eat each other.
Does anyone know if Damien McBride has actually ‘left the building’ or is he following some civil service procedures and working his notice period in another part of Number 10/government
Gardening leave? Do fuck all for months and get paid for it!
He’ll be in hiding somewhere in the labyrinth that’s the Civil Service. Funny how in the days of the Raj we had only 75,000 to run an Empire.
Now? 750,000 of the tossers and still counting.
Sorry, that should have been we had 7,500 to run the Empire.
SHIT OR BUST
McTurd says he is on the case and on the potty!
Tom – if you’re reading this – the case will be decided by a jury of 12 “good men and true”, not your pals in NuLiebour..
You may as well sell everything you have, go to Vegas, and stick everything on red. Shit or bust. The casino of a HIgh Court action against a national newspaper will break your bones.
Google “simple sword of truth”
Silly billy.
Draper has been spotted – according to my witness he was looking very flustered……
ooh where is he…back from his hols?
He gone to his “suite” (mailbox)
bet thats to collect his fan mail
Or his email.
Excuse me what about women? 12 good men and/or women. I may be old enough to have seen the last century through, well amost, but we are in the 21st century now and women are also jurors. Just apologise. ‘Sorry’ will do. I’m sure you are much more of a man than our dear leader and able to issue such a word without hesitation or clarification or obfuscation.
don’t be daft – it was a quote!
I regret the unsubstantiated accusation, but it wasn’t my fault. A big boy did it and ran away.
If Watson is such a clever dick, how come he doesn’t know that the mere act of calling in Carter Fuck is the equivalent of Al Fayed claiming he has never done anything but charity work.
Mr Al Fayed has never done anything but charity work.
I neffa did anything but shharity work
The Carter-Ruck statement is interesting for what it doesn’t say as much as for what it does.
It DOESN’T deny he was part of the “discussions”, just that he was part of the email exchange and the “RedRag working party” or whatever it was called.
I hope the Mail has a backbone…
The Mail does good investigative journalism. They are probably having their people already on the case.
Be afraid Mr Watson. Be very afraid.
Bye bye Tom. I barely knew you but it will be good to see the back of you followed by Brownshirt.
Brown is now in very serious trouble.Knives are out.
Guido,I’m beginning to think that you’ve finished Brown or at least started the endgame.It all seems to be unravelling before us and he has treated his colleagues so abominably in the past that none are coming out to fight his corner.These last four days have been simply astonishing.
According to Tom Bradby on ITV the fat one eyed phone thrower is finished if he does’nt say……s….o…r….r….y
Remember, Brown has previous. Look at the way he first ousted Blair, then twisted arms to avoid a leadership election. Is a man who is prepared to use unpleasant tactics against his own party really going to think twice about using them against the opposition?
Draw your own conclusions.
and of course we will all be buying the Mail tomoz i hope….
For once in my life, I find myself rooting for the Daily Mail. Its an odd feeling. Might need to have a gin and tonic and a lie down.
Anyone any opinions as to what will happen to the “friendship” between Gordon Brown and Paul Dacre ?
Is it just me, or has there been a ton of anti-labour sentiment on the BBC today?! I must be dreaming…surely?
I’m watching Channel 4 news, which is normally just a televised version of the Guardian, but they seem to be going for it.
Yes you are dreaming. Tune in to Radio 5 for a reality check.
1. Nicky Campbell (the queen of day time radio)
2. Simon Mayo
3. Antia Annand
4. Vicki Pollard (Derbyshire)
5. Fat boy Stephen Nolan
6. Richard Bacon
There are more. A whole network of leftie Gordon lovers.
Did you not just see the Blue Sky news? They let one of those Balls boys dribble on for ever. Without interuption! Gordon will do this, Gordon will do the other. Never heard such rubbish in all my life. If he had been a Tory boy he would have been interupted and sent packing with a flea in his ear. The day Blue Sky or the Broon Broadcasting Company stand up for fair play or truth and honesty I will go back to giving the Mrs a good seeing to.
Sorry it was a Milli-trilli-band-pede not a Brown Balls.
Must try harder in future.
Did you notice the Sorry.
It’s not hard,
I’ve been doing it for years,
But then I’m not a Prime Minister,
Just Little Old Me,
Sorry.
Surprised Ed did this, considering his brother David has been seriously hosed down by Brown’s Oprichniki (look it up) in the past.
Did you notice his eyes, sticking out like organ stops!
I think even AlJaBeeba know that change is on the way.
How can he say he knew nothing about the emails until Friday April 10th ?
Didn’t Watson watch the Daily Politics Show in March where Guido mentioned them and Draper denied having seen them? It’s been all over Youtube.
Surely, he would have questioned McBride about it at the time, or at the very least when Guido and Dale sent the FOI requests?
Or even be told to watch it even if he missed it?
Zero points for the defence.
They think we are all swivel-eyed conspiracy numpties that live in Tunbridge Wells FFS.
hmm i notice Charlie Whelen and his union mate are not anyway near lawyers. yet the papers also mentioned he was copied in and new about RedRag when will someone ask the pertinent quesion on the BBC et al. why were they copied in.
Do you really expect the BBC to do proper journalism? All they do is spout Downing street press releases as facts.
Unite’s rank and file members are going to go ape shit if they spend any more money on Draper’s shit site or defending Whelan.
All he is doing is dragging it out longer and making it worse for himself! If he was cc’d in the emails as alleged then he is just wasting his money, and even if he wasn’t this all just makes more headlines – in the end you can be cleared or case dropped but mud still sticks (just ask Michael Jackson).
David T Breaker
http://www.newsjunction.co.uk
This seems germane to the proceedings..
http://www.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/3538286/mcbride-unemployable-outside-whitehall.thtml
http://www.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/3531921/how-resigned-is-mcbride.thtml
Since the Neues Arbeit regime seems keen on denying benefits to alcoholics, does this mean that McBride will be short of funds very soon?
I can see a future after politics for these porkers.
Male Porn.
Along the lines of ‘Raw Meat’ but with a twist ‘Wall to Wall Meat’.
I got the idea from imagining Watson,Mcbride and Draper naked in Jaqui Smiths sisters box room. Timney can have a wank on part sorry I meant walk on part.
Gordo as the fluffer, perhaps?
I think you should get out more.
Cheque please.
milliband’s just been squirming on c4 news… the stuttering prick.
They started by showing a rat that had appeared today on Downing St – leaving a sinking ship by any chance?
Was it a Brown one?
That rat was probably sickened by the crap it had seen in Downing St that it was off to a nearby sewer for some relief…
That was no rat,that was McBride leaving after his resignation.
A rat, my mistake … I thought that was Dolly back from his holiday!
Was that the one wearing overalls and pinching its nose?
Seeing Ed Milliband on CH4 News just now, is there any way to harness the energy produced by the way his eyebrows go up and down. I’m sure that could go some way towards resolving the energy crisis.
Good evening Mr Balls Energy Minister.
We are doing a piece on a power station protest, any comments?
No, I’m only here to do my job, lying for Gordy.
Funny how West Brom always gets some shifty MPs. Look at that crafty, funny eyed Snape. Definitely worth getting Watson into Court. He can’t win.
Just clicked that his constituency is West Bromwich – I know, I’ve been kinda excited and concentration wanders
. Was it that part of Birmingham which the judge related to a banana republic?
Carter Ruck say.
“We have today written to the editors of the Mail on Sunday and the Daily Mail to complain about the publication of the false allegation that our client had knowledge of, and participated in, Mr McBride’s actions.
Given Watson’s job title and the office hierarchy, I cannot see that denial as having the slightest plausibilty. H’s trying not only to deny knowledge of the emails, he’s trying to deny that he had any idea what McBride was doing or how he was doing it. His defence is that he is utterly incompetent and was failing to do his job.
True enough. And how much money has McBride been paid over the years to be Godonstein’s Igor. What was he was supposed to have been doing for the money. Who checked he was doing it. What about Gordon himself, the most micromanaging control freak in the history of British politics, did he never, over 8 years and must be getting on for a seven figure sum of public money spent to employ McBride, check his performance of his duties? Surely a prime minister who can bill the taxpayer for replacement lightbulbs must have asked a question or two.
Or maybe like Dr Robert Knox, he was just happy to receive the cadavers of his political opponents from Burke and Hare (Watson and McBride), and thought it best not to enquire how they kept meeting such convenient and sudden ends.
Now Labour have no excuse in calling the tories the ‘nasty party’! Funny how Labour knows nothing about anything when caught out!
i wonder if carter ruck are on a conditional fee agreement? if you are a claimant with deep pockets they will run it on a cfa if they think they will win and double their fees. if they think merits are not so good they will be on your usual standard private retainer for joe muggins the taxpayer to pick up the bill.
Out of interest, but does anyone know who paid for the theredrag.co.uk
domain name?
It says Ollie Cromwell, obviously a fake name, but the money must have come from somewhere, some bank account. Did Derek personally pay for it? Out of Unite funds? Some other way? Did someone else pay?
It looks like http://www.easily.co.uk was used to buy the name. Someone should ask them where the money came from.
An easily or Nominet employee will have access to the contact details of the registrant. I’d wager at least one or two of which read this blog. Anyone want to tip Guido off? Come on ladies.
No problem there. One of the troughers will have claimed it on expenses, so we just need to wait till they are published in June
Just pinged “theredrag.co.uk. It’s hosted by WordPress.com.
They should be able to give you the low-down on where the money came from. A FoI request?
I’ve recently discovered, much to my irritation, that if someone sends NetBenefit (who own Easily) a request on headed paper for the log-in details for a domain name that looks somehow related to the letterhead, NetBenefit just hands over the log-in details. Even if the bills are paid by, and the contract with NetBenefit is with, someone else (viz, me, in this instance).
Two weeks later, and NetBenefit has still not closed this security loophole. I can’t get them even to tell me when they will get around to it. So anyone here might be able to take advantage of this quickly by sending a letter on Downing Street or Labour Party letterhead and signed by “Ollie Campbell”, requesting the log-in details for http://www.redrag.co.uk . Then it is yours to do what you want with (move to another ISP, for instance).
Let us know how you get on, and then I will have some idea of how quickly the NetBenefit timeservers will close the loophole on my account and stop being in breach of their contract with me.
I mean “Ollie Cromwell”, of course.
In all the statements by ministers on the box they evening they’ve insisted mcbrainless was acting on his own. Why haven’t the interviewers brought up the other possible parties involved?
Schillings obviously turned him down. Can’t say I blame them, the fucker looks like he’s eaten an inflatable rubber dinghy coated in whale shit.
Supposing he’s not yet inflated, he just that odiously blubbery anyway, just think if you now pull the dingy auto inflate you should end up with something like the guy in the James Bond movie who just gets bigger and bigger then explodes. Always a fitting end for the very nasty villains like this one!
Mr Creosote even
Not being a legal expert:-
“……the (false) allegation that our client had knowledge of, and participated in, Mr McBride’s actions.”
is a considerably stronger hand than:-
“……the (false) allegation that our client had knowledge of, OR participated in, Mr McBride’s actions.”
I wonder why they chose the former?
Also not a legal expert, but a logical thinker: I would disagree that AND is stronger than OR in this case.
If, as seems likely, he knew what was going on (“had knowledge of”), even though he did not actually write the emails/ set up the website (“participated in”), then the first statement is true, but the second is not.
Monty is correct. Under the first statement he could have either had knowledge of, or particpated in. They are only saying he didn’t do both. Very revealing.
Go for it Guido; bring the fat bastard down – a govt minister being sacked or having to resign as a result of your diligence – that’ll prove the power of blogs (or “the people” as I like to refer to it)
I find all this activity going on all around me very disturbing.
Watson’s playing for time, trying to scare the Mail off.
However, it’s not the Mail he should be worried about.
By this time next week the Labour Party will have severed their connections with Draper, as a prelude to kicking him out of the party – that’ll be one plank of Watson’s case shafted.
And if the Tories or someone else submit a FOI request to see Watson’s email traffic – public property- he’ll be up shit creek without a paddle. Watson forgets he’s paid by us to work for us – Parliament is not his Daddy’s business.
What a clown. No strategic nous. Typical Nulabour twat.
Almost fourteen years ago to the day Blair said at a Labour conference — “Power without principle is barren, but principle without power is futile.”
So it will soon be barren futility for Labour will it?
Go Guido – bring ‘em down!
Is it libel to call Watson an odious fuckpig..or is that fair comment?
pretty fair, I am no Lawyer but does libel have to be an untruth.
From Merriam-Webster Online dictionary: “Odious: arousing or deserving hatred or repugnance”.
From Urban Dictionary: “fuckpig is a general term, usually denoting a person of authority who is abusing it or, anyone whose ego has grown too big for their own socks.”
So, fair comment. I would say too kind.
Yes I have to agree Odious Fuckpig is totally fine, had you called him an honest well meaning cnut, that I fear would be deformation of character and thus would be Libel .
Thanks all,
He’s a bit of a Hunt isn’t he!!!!
http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/about_the_cabinet_office/organisation.aspx#ministers
If he’s the minister for civil service issues surely he should at least be aware of what they’re getting up to.
Was that Civil Service tissues?
Lets us be fair to prime Minister Gordon McMental
He is the only politician on Earth who can point to his wife and hand on heart, Gods Honour truthfuly say
“I did not have sex with that woman”
Followed by
“It depends on your definition of the phrase ,Turkey baster”
grow up
fuck off
The loathsome Breast of Clerkenwell darkens our doors once more doing the work of Draper.
is he always like that then? to make the rest of us look like jerks? (still a new girl, soz)
NewGirl, sadly yes, usually. We can’t all be angelic all the time, but The Breast of Clerkenwell, 45iq (though he calls himself 45govt and has a teenage fetish with guns) and Old Borehoon (a.k.a. Old Holborn) are usually repulsive and vile, usually to no greater effect than making everyone else look bad by association. Hence my current choice of name.
Since you’re new, have you been acquainted with the meaning of Hoon yet? It’s a locally coined euphemism for a certain four letter word beginning with c and ending with unt – it lets people express exactly how they feel without causing excessive offense (except to the Hoons of the world).
worked out “hoon” all by myself…..how clever am I? Mind you, the context helped. Lots.
PS why can’t we cause excessive offence?
So as not to offend the delicate sensibilities of our lady readers ?
Maybe you don’t try hard enough…?
Nah…I’m a lady reader….i’m fine with it
I would agree with your comment – unless it is libelous – except I’m sure there are a lot more politicians doing the same!
(You did say the ONLY politician!)
Now, before I pass sentence on the deceased! . . . oh ha, ha, haPerson, . . is there anything he would like to say in his defence?
D. (TW). Just fuck! And I call on the Supreme Leader for my defence. Supreme Leader . . . . Oh Supreme Leader where are YOU ? . . .. funny – doesn’t answer. Wonder where he’s gone?
When broon finally gets caught red handed, can we have a whip round and hire Carter-Fu … err … Ruck first? Just to prevent the one eyed scottish hoon getting them in first!
I’m surprised he didn’t say “If it falls to me to start a fight to cut out the cancer of bent and twisted journalism in our country with the simple sword of truth and the trusty shield of British fair play, so be it. I am ready for the fight. The fight against falsehood and those who peddle it. My fight begins today.”
Didn’t work so well for the last cabinet minister did it? What a fucking fat hoon.
If the Mail and MoS have any Balls they will refer Carter-Fuck to the response given to the plaintiff in Arkell vs. Pressdram i.e. Fuck Off. If they don’t file to FoI requests, we should have a whip around and file them ourselves.
Little Tom Watson, bless his fuckwit actions, hires Carter Fuck and threatens newspapers. Their statement does not say that Little Tom Watson never ever discussed a blog. Ok they state no knowledge of Redrag but what about others that were discussed. Come on little Tom, come clean as you know you are FUCKED. All Carter will do is FUCK you on fees then you will be double FUCKED.
Alas not – the only persons who will charged for Carter Ruck in respect of work for Thomas Watson MP is us, the taxpayer. It just concerns me, as a pensioner, that I sit here watching my 0% investments and black hole of a pension that the government has robbed from me, and now have to also face funding this dreadful man’s legal expenses from my depleted funds- through my taxes- to his expenses.
I presume Two Dinners was not cc’d on the emails as Ian Dale has already admitted this (unless Guido knows better!!).
This won’t stop the Mail from asking exactly what he did know given that McBride worked for him.
Either he knew or is totally incompetent.
Perhaps they could do a FOI request for all correspondence regarding Redrag
All this just tells you who was on at the Beeb yesterday.
So TWat son has said he knows nothing…..
I don’t find him credible.
The curtain man, brought back from the wilderness, did it all himself – talking only to a “few” friends, a list which obviously did not include ANY politicians.
He says he asked for stories – some ignored, the Bride replied.
So come on curtains, show us the e-mail, complete with address lines, which will doubtless have a pitch for your red rag?
He should be able to do that shouldn’t he?
A very ‘Tired, Emotional’, and somewhat unsteady Spokes PorkPerson for 10 Drowning (in Debt) Street has issued a further statement :
‘The Beloved and Glorious Leader and the Person or Persons with some pseudo NooLieBore job title or other are – besides . . . SHITTING THEMSELVES! . . .now seriously considering asking that weird witchy woman who used to live here to advise them. Something about ‘ooman ‘roights ‘n racism I believe.
In the meantime, sheeple, be assured, as always that nothing is the fault of the lying bastards.’
Statement ends
“weird witchy woman”? Margaret Beckett never lived at No 10.
Perhaps we can expect a resignation in order for TW to concentrate on clearing his good name!
AJC
His DESK my dere – clearing his DESK
“If he’s the minister for civil service issues surely he should at least be aware of what they’re getting up to.”
Exactly.
I’m no legal expert, but since when can a Minister of the Crown rely on legal action taken out in his personal capacity to avoid scrutiny on matters related to his public duties?
Total fantasised bollocks on Watson’s part.
Someone should put some pointed Parliamentary questions to Watson about the details and circulation of the emails sent by McBride, a civil servant and member of Watson’s staff. That’ll smoke him out.
Watson will either have to answer the questions or resign, as the reply ‘ I can’t answer that because of personal legal reasons’ will mean that he can no longer discharge the duties of his role.
We are very uncomfortable with the title ‘Red Rag’ and would like it to be changed at once.
We are also very uncomfortable with that horny handed Prezzer bloke, – and would like him changed too. But yer gotta luv ‘im really intcha, – luv ‘im.
Watson: “What happens if it goes to court?”
Carter Fuck – “the case will be decided by your peers – “12 good men and true”. Watson: “What’s that mean?”
CF: “It means the decision will be made by 12 people just like you”
Watson: “Shit, you mean my fate’s in the hands of 12 fat lying fuckers?”
13
he would never resist spinning the number of people present
well this will mean that Paul Dacre and Brown will now fall out!!!
The Mail now back to the Tories?????
Fuck the mail and the Telegraph and the Sun who have dithered to long on this administration. Its the times for me from now on. I suggest others do likewise as the paperazi only understand one thing.
Just been over to labour list and boy some of the comments on there are crackers.
They seem to be divided between the delusional poly students who believe Marx will lead the second coming, the outright deniers “it was only a couple of lads” and “Guido works for the evil Tories” crowd of loons.
The ones I feel sorry for are some obvious labour supports who are trying to lead a desperate rear guard action to stop the loons from labour list digging further. Don’t these people get it that there are people out there who are drawn to these sites to see for themselves what’s going on.
As an aside Guido I would be interested if you would publish how much extra traffic all this has generated just to see how many read this site, say compared to the Guardian.
I am always right.
I am never wrong.
And don’t slag off poly students – I presume they are studying my work.
I think guido mentioned in a previous thread 200,000 a day?
And many more commenting here, too. My dweebish rejoinders are now completely drowned out.
I’ve always wanted to say, “Fuck off you four eyed fat fucker.”
I can’t wait to see what Private Eye make of all this. Spoilt for choice for a juicy front clover I should think. Would probably merit a bumper special edition!
Let’s hope it’s a piccy of Gordo on his way to the Palace!
They can’t call that reprehensible, spoiling rag “The Torygraph” any longer.
According to Carter-Ruck, Watson’s (fairly narrow) position is that he was unaware of the e-mails, or involvement in/knowledge of the website. Note that they say he has ‘confirmed to’ them that is so – i.e. that they have merely taken initial instructions. Of course that assertion might well be tested in court.
What is his position with regard to the overall strategy? Did he, as a closely involved Minister of State, have any knowledge of, or involvement in, that?
But how politically inept. Did he really want to give this story legs? This can be dragged out for years if needs be. If he’s halfway serious he should have told Carter Ruck to get the writ sorted straight away. Instead he’s trying to lean on the Mail(s) with threats.
Anyway, even if they print retractions the political damage is done. No smoke without fire etc etc. Escalation of legal action will merely compound the wreckage.
“Watson” and “narrow” are two words which do not belong in the same sentence.
Your “Seen Elsewhere” list of links includes one mis-quoted, concocted title: “Draper is a Duplicitous, Power-Mad Fool – Alex Hilton”.
The actual name of Alex Hilton’s article in The Scotsman is “Analysis: ‘Sneering at Tories with lies counteracts Labour’s aims’”.
Hilton lambasts McBride and Draper for proposing smears which contradict Labour’s actual policies on sexually transmitted diseases, mental health and homosexuality, and laments that “when playing a game is your ambition and your daily motivation, it’s time to grow up.”
However Hilton acknowledges that “anonymous rumours [and gossip] have always been part of politics” and mentions Guido Fawkes as one of the beneficiaries of such rumours.
Hilton’s final sentence is that “until this embarassment dies down, every single one of us [who enjoy playing a game from time to time] will look like a duplicitous, power-mad fool.”
Far from Hilton’s specifically targetting Draper — as implied in the concocted title in “Seen Elsewhere” — “every single one of us” includes G.Fawkes.
Ooooh dear, why not call the police, why not sue, why not have a good cry, why not call Cherie Bliar.
Splitting hairs and nitpicking now are we, never mind eh?
Watson and McBride photographed recently:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2023/2060500407_0e5c810510.jpg?v=0
They’d feed 10 families of 6 for about 150 years, or for a very long time, whatever is longer.
Why don’t they kill themselves the selfish Hunts?
This just gets better – the libeler thinks hes being libelled.
Farter-Fuck????
Described by the Guardian as “a chancer, out for the maximum fee”, and a man “who did for freedom of speech what the Boston Strangler did for door-to-door salesmen.”
I would hope that nobody on this site considers the Guardian a reliable source of information!!!
I wouldn’t normally – but strange things have been happening in the last few days!
@ Joe Public:
Well spotted. ‘Knowledge of’ might be easier to prove to a jury than ‘participated in’. So AND means that if CR could make out the defamatory meaning they allege, then the Mail would be put to proof of both.
CR’s problem is their client and all his ‘juvenile’ friends are going to be a liability if it gets into court, and unless some union or Labour crony crony supports the action, Watson will go broke before it does. DMGT is tough and rich and motivated. You wouldn’t want to sue it on iffy grounds.
Thank you
As I sit here with my knitting tonight reflecting on my WI meeting this morning that discussed using mongolian yaks’ milk in cooking in support of our great leader’s campaign to ‘Don’t Buy British’ I am reminded strongly of the words Brown issued to Blair when he was told that Blair did not intend to give up power
“There is nothing that you could say to me now that I could ever believe.” I do believe his words must come back to haunt him.
I am also haunted by the resignation of Tom Watson written to Tony Blair ” My loyalty to you personally,as well as to the party, and the values we stand for has been unswerving.” Mr Watson was clearly stabbing Mr Blair in the back at this time. How could he utter such an untruth? and does that not reflect upon his trustworthiness or lack of it? No doubt, if this comes to a Court of Law, this issue will be raise and the question asked?
In respect of my pension and investments, and the extensive taxes, which we are paying, it also bothers me that dear Mr Watson claimed in 2006-2007 some £211000 in wages and expenses. as well as £20,000 for his wife (though what was she paid for? does anyone know?) what did he do for that? And now that he is employed in no.10 Downing Street I expect that sum for 2007-2008 was much greater. 2008-2009? how much more? Can I afford it? I just shan’t have to buy apples this week, and I’ll use the bike instead of my trusty mini.
£20,000 for his wife?
That’s ten grand per sympathy fuck, ffs!
You’re assuming that Tom Watson has principles and a modicum of integrity. If you assume that, his ability to lie with a straight face would seem incomprehensible.
The lickspittle has no integrity – like most of Brown’s intimates (gawd, the thought).
Gotta love that phrase “We have made it clear that our client has confirmed to us…”
Which is lawyerspeak for we don’t believe teh bastard either, but that’s what he’s instructed us to say!
And to Lawyers who have massively contributed to the decline of the UK in the last 12 years…..Fuck you assholes, you reckoning approaches also.
My learnered friends can go and fuck themselves
We have made it clear that our client has confirmed to us…”
More likely we don’t care, win or lose we still get paid. Shyster scum.
So what?
If I remember correctly, didn’t McBride’s emails mention Watson by name is setting up this smears business?
If this is so, then the narrow issue of whether Watson was cc’d to McBride’s emails to Draper is neither here nor there, the point being that McBride was making the necessary arrangements to get Watson, his boss, involved in the overall planning.
This is important as McBride sent his government headed emails to outside parties (i.e not just Draper), who would naturally expect any such project to be have departmental cover high up, hence the importance of McBride mentioning Watson in the text.
Sp the only issue that really matters is the extent of Watson’s knowledge or involvement in the ‘arrangements’, not whether specific emails were cc’d to him.
If Watson had no knowledge, then Brown should sack him, as his lack of supervision of a member of his team (McBride) was incompetent and has caused the government untold grief.
And if Watson did know, he’s shafted. As both McBride’s and Watson’s correspondence are publicly generated and owned documents it’s only a matter of time before the truth comes out.
I know which of these scenarios my money’s on.
Look Watson only read and cleared the DRAFT. He was not copied in and you should not suggest otherwise or you too might receive a letter from Hunter Fluck
In case you have missed the most pathetic spin explanation on R4 by Alan Johnson, plus other media round-up Tom Watson stuff:
http://plato-says.blogspot.com/2009/04/david-cameron-is-fucked-off-and-it.html
Click on the header bar for the rolling post list.
OK, so fucking what – lawyer boys…..we’ve suffered under your 12 years of NuLabs ‘be careful or we’ll sue you’ nazism… fuck you all, go on, do it, sue!! get the compliant Nazi cops to arrest and arrest. Fuck you, who is impressed by you anyomore?
Human Rights Act? Yeah, bring it one!! What else fuckturd lawyers!!
Looking at Carter Ruck’s statement there seems to be a glaring weakness – Watson’s claim that he knew nothing of McBride’s actions is backed up only by the claim that he was not copied the emails detailing McBride’s smear campaign. McBride’s actions were not simply writing and sending emails, but evolving a smear strategy. Sure, the original libel issues surrounded the writing of emails, but the public outrage and suspicions expressed by the Mail et al are simply about the strategy itself. Watson and McBride were close enough to make awareness of the strategy axiomatic- as if the question to McBride “what are we doing to beat the Tories at the next election?” would not have been discussed, and as if it would have been conceivable for McBride to answer, “nothing much”. Proximity + common interest + Watson’s form = obvious awareness.
The UK libel laws may just be too stupid to compute that though.
Still, at the end it could come down to the question, “so, Watson, crooked or incompetent?”- does Watson really want that to be the talk of the courts? I suppose it might save it being the talk of the town.
I feel sure that Watson would rather be found to be incompetent than crooked. Incompetence would (or should) warrant dismissal. Crookedness could (or should) result in a police investigation and possible conviction.
Pray it is the latter.
Sounds like you’re getting a bit worried.
Much as a detest the ugly greedy bitch, wouldn’t it be wonderful if Cherie was brought it to represent The Mail. HOW much does she hate Gordon for forcing B’Liar out of No.10.
OK you wise-guys, answer me this. How did this bunch of hapless clowns ever make it to the top of the tree?
And this. Here we have oor Gordie, not responsible for his advisors (Alan Johnson has told us so) and not responsible for our economic plight (He himself tells us so) and apparently oblivious to all the goings on going on in his own house. How did this man, without responsibilities and without a clue ever get to be PM?
Scary isn’t it.
Well that’s not a difficult question.
They are all in fact cuckoos. Cuckoos in the labour party nest. Cuckoos in the English nest. And what to cuckoos do? What’s in their nature!
don’t ask – google him+blogwars
That went well, didn’t it Tom? Everyone running around SOOO frightened of Sue, Grabbitt and Runne
Their is a couple of FOI request about Tom Watson’s role in this affiar.
http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/tom_watson_and_the_smear_campaig#outgoing-18452
http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/tom_watson#outgoing-18451
Get them into court then see what they say on oath !
Pardon my ignorance but could someone tell me is ‘Carter Ruck’ rhyming slang and if so what does it mean??
P.S. Please note that when you have finished with Broon and his cronies at Westminster we definitely dont want them back up here in the frozen North. Any chance you could do us a favour and recycle them or something??
Frozen north, what you are from the Arctic then Gus?
Iain Dale has said on Five Live that he made a mistake alluding that Tom W*nker was copied in on the emails.
Listen here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b00jtb7s
Talk about the banality of evil! Revealed as what they truly are: bullying, squabbling frauds, all of them! The Teflon Spell never lasts more than thirteen years, for some occult reason.
The Puritan Interregnum
The Third Reich
New Labour
Hey – I’m still feeling happy. Been feeling that way for a few days now – since Guido’s hints last Thursday.
I can’t help feeling (as per the Obama campaign) – Its been a long time coming, but a change is gonna come!
Thank you Guido – please keep up the good work.
He’s a non-event
Where is Gordon Brown? Surely he should, as PM, now be asserting his authority and leadership over this matter- not just feigning anger etc. (as usual)- over the charges he is responsible for? And he should be giving us all some clear statements we deserve and are long overdue.
As others, I believe, have already said: a) if he knew nothing he is INCOMPETENT, OR b) if he did know then he is CULPABLE.
As we have seen before done a runner to hide under a rock I think. Bad as the Hillsborough incident was, I think it even worse to use such a tradegy as a political tool of deflection and obfuscation.
If Watson was MacBride’s boss why did he not summarily dismiss him for gross misconduct rather than let him resign?
If they are having to call in Farter Fuck then they must be in dire trouble.
Isn’t Carter Ruck the last refuge of the rich and guilty?
Yes
I’m lost. Can anyone name one person in this current administration who is qualified in ANY area of IT and who has at least a smidgen of authority?
My son is 4 years old. Give him a computer and he would send most ‘elected’ MP’s off to Adult Educat……oh sorry. Forgot about the under funding.
I think its panic stations now. Genuine worries of doing porridge. Time to turn up the legal pressure.
Popcorn!
More Popcorn!
The conniptions are riveting.
Having used the word “conniptions” I am obliged to clearly state that I am not medically qualified in diagnosis but am pretty adept at Psychobabble.
Get ‘em in.
Police “force” to examine Dolly’s “hacking” claims-
(BIG HINT) Somebody at “Unite” who hates that fat Scottish Hunt Whelan
Carter Fuck & Co.-
(BIG HINT) Re-run of PE libel cases past with every bugger chucking a few quid in to make sure the mendacious bastards lose.
Joy is upon us.
The ship is starting to sink, so which rat will be first to jump ship?
Draper in The Times:
“I have not been online for about 24 hours, but I know there are people saying I should go — but I think LabourList is a good idea and I hope to leave it for a week before deciding whether to try to soldier on, which is what I think at the moment.”
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6094572.ece?token=null&offset=0&page=1
“Ollie Cromwell” gave his address as House of Commons when registering the redrag website.
could this statement be described as threat to national security ???
so tom goes for the lawyers , being the big man and big hitter that he is , tax payer to pay for it (no skim i hope) , lets think this through and assume carter ruck arnt on a no win no fee basis !
the minister for digital engagement had no knowledge of the developement and products to be involved in the promotion of the labour party for party and electorial purposes ????
so how would tom like to describe his job to us ???
twitter away tom , do tell , i had thought digital engaement was to be courtship for a marriage of some kind .
so your job is to promote the digital enviroment ??? with you so far tom
so do you liase with software and hardware companies ?? , what press releases have you done for your department or for your party in the last 6 months???, what did you chat to damien mcbride about on a daily basis , the weather , you get more tuna mayo in a sandwich from m&s ??
i think a court case may help to clarify , of course the case would then demand all your e mails and perhaps mobile calls and texts , bit of waste of public money , but i think we would need to know the whole thing as no one seems to understand what you do or who you talk to
Nadine Dorries has just gone on the record referring to “the cesspit of 10 Downing Street” – wonderful to hear an MP calling a spade a spade, and actually articulating the bald truth in simple language! Well done Nadine!
Will the hired guns of Carter Ruck, and Schillings really be able to protect Brown and his accomplices from public anger?
No wig-and-gown charade will conceal for long the truth of what really goes on in Downing Street, no matter what ‘rulings’ they wheedle from slimy judges.
Schings, rather well named
Schillings, rather well named
Brown’s premiership is turning out just as I predicted in my book “Boom and Bust” written before he became PM. Contact me on nigel_bowker_917@hotmail.com for a free electronic copy.
Classic example, they like dishing it out but react very badly when the “compliment” is returned – standard ooperating procedure for bullies, which is part of NuHoonLab “culture”!
Is it not a wee bit strange for Tom Watson to issue a statement via his legal beaks and not via a government press release.
Jings he must be worried about something.
Tom Watson – MP for West Bromwich and home of the pUblic arts building what a stupid wast of 50 million when the people of West Brom are desperate for health care education and facilities. Idiots ! who ever the locals are who decided
that stupidity was a good idea.
Donal Blaney- see what JOHN REDWOOD, GERALD HOWARTH and the DEPUTY MAYOR OF LONDON think about the nasty vindictive blogger!! New revelations about YBF and comments urging the death of US SENATOR Ted Kennedy!!!
WELL worth a browse!!!
http://ddtaylor88.wordpress.com
It is highly interesting Schillings are not acting. The most likely explanation is that there is a significant conflict of interest between Draper and Watson not obvious to the rest of us (yet).
It is also interesting that PCR are using the word “knowledge” instead of “awareness”.
Brown has done his ‘who will rid me of this meddlesome blog?’ speech. Alan Johnson had the courage to lift his head up over the parapet but had no conviction. Balls is up next (the annointed one). He tells us not to interfere with a wise governement running the country. And then there’s Mandy, lying low for now. For a king hiding behind battened down pawns in the corner of the board and told to lie low and shut up, I’m not sure of the role of a highly mobile, rampaging queen.