Nadine Dorries MP has just told GMTV that she was called last year by journalists seeking to substantiate the smears against her. She believes that because the press would not run the stories McBride and Draper set-up the Red Rag blog.
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Alastair Campbell Malcolm Tucker writes…
“… remember your key attributes: not JFK skipping through the flowers spraying Clinton juice all over everyone. No – the glowering maniac in the boarded-up house who, if we’re lucky, people might just about believe is the only one who can remember where the bank statements are kept. That’s the core strategy.”
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WE MUST HAVE A FULL AND IMPARTIAL INQUIRY NOW
1st time i read this blog and the last. you lot are clearly tossers with time on your hands, get a girl friend or wife, play golf, wash the car, do something more useful than this nonesense!
Guess you are one of the 30% still hell-bent on voting for the current shower of shit then.
Fuck off you Grauniad reading, Gordon Brown cock-sucking shit for brains
So NuLab inventing lies about a respectable MP having a one-nighter is of no importance. You ARE a Brown-nose Labour supporter and I claim my £ 5.
Alan Douglas
Anonyfool – Are you entirely clueless, or have you been “bought” by Nulab?
Clearly a victim of State Education. Cannot spell, no fucking sense. And note the lifestyle….
The Tuscan Easter advice to Gordon Brown is: get a girlfriend, wash the wife, and learn to drive a car.
Fuck off you tit! Go and be ‘Progressive’ somewhere else!
Dear Anonymous says..
May I thank you for your considered thoughts & words.
Now..just fuck right off.
ps
Your sister’s in her bedroom..& is waiting for you now!!!!
Must work for the BBC, clearly don’t want any one to address the issue. Or maybe you work for the Guardian the least read paper in the world. You would like everybody to just go do something else rather than point out the blindingly obvious. We live in a country where thousands will march for a phoney climate change agenda but not one sorry British person will stand up to this group of bulshit artist and throw them out of Office. How many will march to lower fuel costs??????How many will march to tell Gordon we don’t want Peter Mandelson (shitbag of the world) in our government. No these are things discussed in the pub very quietly. Briish socialit sheep never get the message. SOCIALISM DOESN’T WORK AND NEVER HAS!!!!!!!!!
There will be a quite a few politicians and spin merchants who would dearly wish everyone thought like you.
Sorry Anon. busy bloggin’…..can you go down to tesCO and get me a pint of milk and half a dozen eggs…there’s a good chap.
Buy a dictionary!
Gordon? Is it really you?
I suggest you read some of the other blogs then(including those of left wing commentators) and then various newspapers. Even commentators on the left of politics realise what a “massive home goal” this is for Labour which sheds public light on the whole question of “Brown’s style of politics” unless he publicly(not via “spokespersons or “Cabinet Minister” but personally)refutes and apologises not just as Prime Minister but Leader of the Labour Party
I particularly draw your attention to Jackie Ashley’s article in to-days Guardian which I assume you take as matter of course. I will even supply the link below for you
Whilst some of the “banter” on this site is somewhat colourful you really shouldn’t resort to calling people who put a different point of view to yours -”tossers” it rather proves the argument don’t you feel regarding the level that those on the left who cannot admit that this has hurt Brown and Labour have fallen to ?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/apr/13/damian-mcbride-email-gordon-brown-cameron-osborne
why are all the wankers called “anonymous” are they scared of using their real name (derek?)
Only a weapons-grade moron would visit a web site and complain that people who do the same thing are tossers with time on their hands. Beyond irony.
and whatever you don’t don’t dig up any more dirt on dear leader :)
I find your comment deeply offensive and sexist – “get a girl friend or wife”!
Do you think everyone who comments here is either male or lesbian?
I can assure you that I am neither of these, and I think Guido has done a great job and hopefully will continue to do so! We need him.
I never realised Alistair Campbell could not spell.
Your name wouldn’t Brown, Mandy or even Dolly would it? You prick
So the tories are supported by a Guido Fawkes a man who went abroad to fight and train in a religious war.
Came back to the country of his birth. Where he wanted to take place in a suicide bombing.
He was also happy to blow a few of his own for the sake of hs religious fundamentalism.
WOW you right wing lot are everywhere…
Draper has always been slime, the best thing for him is a 9 mm sleeping pill preferably between the eyes. Failing that, perhaps drop him in the ocean and let the sharks deal with him, then again they will probably spit the poisonous bastard out!
go and toss yerself off uber tosser
Alan Johnson on Today 8:20am
‘There is no politician less spun than Gordon Brown’
The defence from the Ministry of OutThink!
Well, actually that is TRUE. Just LOOK at the results, is that what a successful spin calls a product ? Compare and contrast Bliar and Broon/Gloom.
10 years of Bliar glitz followed by 2 of the Brown substance.
Alan Douglas
If Brown does not know what is going on in his own office, its no wonder he didn’t know that his financial regulatory system wasn’t working.
Therefore he is not fit for office
He tries to do his own spinning spending millions if not billions of taxpayer money to do it.
piss off
Elric has a bit of a point there. I can’t for the life of me figure why Brown was dumb enough to emasculate the FSA. It is becoming clear though that financial supervision is a bit beyond the grasp of the No. 10 advisers
The truth is that Gordon Brown, the worst Prime Minister ever, has been seen for who he really is, rotten just like his spin Doctor, just plain rotten.
An independant inquiry is a must………………better still how about a general election?
Just because TB was a better liar it doesn’t make him a better Prime Minister. GB hasn’t taken us into an illegal war. (Yet) Though he may if he thinks that it will keep him in power.
Just because TB was a better liar it doesn’t make him a better Prime Minister. GB hasn’t taken us into an illegal war. (Yet) Though he may if he thinks that it will keep him in power.
I refer the Honourable gentleman to recent news articles reporting that the Govt was asking soldiers if they were prepared to fire on UK Citizens.
In your dreams! There’s been no such thing as, An Independent Inquiry since Labour’s been in power. No point wasting more of our money.
Hang on McKay, I kinda think that TB being a better liar than GB DOES make him a better PM – after all, isn’t that one of the key requirements these days?
Didn’t the Conservative party back the war….http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/5108584.stm
Woops, seems like hindsight isn’t just Labour spin after-all!
I think this blog is a great way to cheer up in the morning, some of the comments in here have been exceptionally funny so bravo lads, keep up the good work.
That would be the Conservatives voting on the lies they were told – in Parliament.
One awaits the country signing up to the Nuremburg Convention, and the subsequent trials…..
So you admit that you whole-heartedly believe(d) everything Labour told/tells you? Bit naieve to believe that only Labour MP’s get “liberal” with the truth isn’t it?
All politicians are the same, at the end of the day the position they are placed in forces them to stretch the truth (lie) in order to appease the majority and maintain their position.
Like it or not, we are all highly critical of those in charge and with the sheer volume of issues there are to go wrong, we will always find something to pick at, big or small. No one government is any better than the next.
gorden &the brownshirtsare not planning an election mearly a national socialist revolution.Like all liberal facists they must destroy all opposition even in thier own party.
Whilst dis-satisfied with politicians in general – I do think that TB was the only man in Parliament who would have led through the Iraq invasion. Robin Cooke resigned rather than put his name to it – and was then suddenly exposed for his adultary.
I think Cameron was naive to believe that TB wouldn’t lie to Parliament – but I don’t understand how he got re-elected.
Guido
We are all assuming that McBride has resigned, yet some papers and the BBC are using the line that he has “resigned from his post as Special Adviser to the PM”
The public need clarity, is he still a Civil Servant? If that is the case he needs to be suspended then face disciplinary action for breaching the CS code of Conduct. Is there a cover up going on?
Probably. There’s no chance ff McBride being cast out. He knows where the bodies are. They’ll want to hold him very close.
He knows where the bodies are buried ‘cos he put them there.
So it’s not a real resignation – they’ve just found another closet to put him in
If McBride is indeed unemployed and in the short to medium term unemployable.
Perhaps he is looking for a decent pay day, Max Clifford on the phone?
Oh, c’mon chaps, really. The only reason this has happened is because I’m not there.
G’s hand is not really on the tiller, after all. In my day we would just go ahead and do smear, not send silly emails back and forth like girlies. I mean to say. was I bovvered?
And I have to say you cannot blame a poodle for doing what it has been trained for, and I should know, I trained him.
Derek? Well Derek will do what he has to do to pretend that the New Labour I invented in the bogs at Fettes is either ‘new’ or labour’, and that consequently he is real.
So my advice, and keep in mind how much I earn from giving advice, is to let this whole matter drop. G wanted it so much that it is eating him up without aid from Tory bigots and other ne’er-do-wells.
Soon, G will be earning 25p on the lecture ciruit and my dear friend David will take my place. I just hope that I have trained him well enough.
Tony
Hello Tony,
I felt I had to reply since you mention me by name as ‘G’, and it is something for which I will never apologise.
I realise now how fiendishly clever you were during the few years I alowed you to keep my job. You left me Derek and I now know him to be a ’sleeper’ designed to cause me maximum embarrassment.
Well, you haven’t. I am not embarrassed since I do not understand what all the fuss is about. What is a wrong with ‘outing’ a few Tory bigots? Why does anyone think the so-called truth matters? All that matters is holding on to power, as you well know. The English have no idea what the ‘truth’ is anyway, and prefer to be fed lies by we wily Scots.
If you think I am going to step down and allow you back in, well…I will, although I was hoping that privilege would go to your friend David. Let the fool have 4 years of bankruptcy, and then I can have another twenty years of power.
Finally, I will only apologise for my inability to breathe properly between sentences, and that alone.
G.
As long as ZaNu Labour remains in power, the chances of an impartial inquiry – certainly as far as ZaNu complicity is concerned – are as remote as pigs flying. Zanu inquiries have the expected result embedded into the remit.
I want one of those remote flying pigs.
Dear Tony
Don’t waste time posting to websites like this – don’t you know that the Catholic Church has been waiting 2000 years for all your unsolicited advice on how to adapt to the 21st century and get the gay vote?
Phone in topic on BBC 5 Live now. Muck in chaps.
Inquiry?-we already see the obfuscation spinning from smarmy Johnson,whelan and all the other toads under the stone
Here here.
While we are at it, let’s have an inquiry to why Damian Green was trying to pay someone to be a mole in the home office.
The very same Damian Green who reports directly to the leader of the opposition. David “it’s itchy down there” cameron.
I’m sure your certain that an information Green received was not going to be sold to newspapers and leaked to sordid right wing propoganda sites like this. But I’m not so certain
Heru,
The difference with Damian Green was that the leaked information was TRUE and in the public interest whereas the leaked smears are LIES only in Labours Interest.
Goodbye.
If you talking about leaking government papers then I should be very careful cos Broown was one of the worst offenders when in opposition. Glass houses come to mind
Also the arrest of a sitting MP for doing his job not only brought more disgrace on this government but also on the police officer involved (labour luvvy Quick) who should have told jackboots to go & watch some porn & let us get on with trying to keep the country safe
Also if he was going to sell it why did it appear in the press or are you suggesting the press paid him for the info. If you are your a bigger jerk than Broown or Dolly
Nadine Dorries, the new Conservative MP for Mid Bedfordshire, was parachuted into the constituency at the last minute by Conservative Central Office, just as she was parachuted into Hazel Grove (to the fury of local Tories) shortly before the 2001 election.
Why, we asked, is she always first choice for the parachute jump when Tory HQ in London decides to despatch its own candidate?
Nadine Dorries’s children were until recently classmates at Ampleforth College (one of the leading Catholic schools in the country, recently embarassed by a sexually deviant teacher!) with the children of one Trish Morris. As fellow parents Trish and Nadine got to know each other rather well.
And who is Trish?
Under her more formal moniker of Baroness Morris, she is vice-chairman of the Conservative party in charge of candidate selection!
I imagine Ms Dorries is put up because she is good at it. She certainly seems to be to me. And yours was a nasty little bit of innuendo, wasn’t it? Don’t you feel just a little ashamed of yourself?
Why are all these Labour supporters/plants hiding behind the “Anonymous” moniker recently? The innuendo here is particularly juvenile, and the insinuations stupid and maybe libelous!
“Why, we asked….” couldn’t be more obvious could it; likely it was a group conversation in GB’s bunker.
GF is the man!
Is this your best shot?
Really scraping the barrel now.
Alan Johnson says Gordon Brown does not have to say sorry for e-mails sent by his adviser that discussed smearing Tories, “Gordon Brown had nothing to do with this. You apologise for the things you are responsible for,” he said, BUT THIS PRIME MINISTER NEVER APOLOGISES FOR ANYTHING ‘cos he’s Mr. Irresponsible.
Mr Johnson goes on to say “Gordon is not responsible for every single person who works for him”. That suggests that he is responsible for someone, WHO IS IT?
As an obvious devotee of the said G Brown Alan can hardly expect a huge following in the future.
WOULD YOU LOT LISTEN YOURSELVES, PATHETIC, JUVENILE FANTACISTS WHO WILL DO ANYTHING BEYOND PUNCH TOSH THROUGH A KEYBOARD….I AM GOING TO LOVE IT IN A FEW YEARS WHEN CAMERON HAS DESTROYED EVERY PUBLIC SERVICE WE HAVE AND BLAMES IT ALL ON gb…UP YOURS THE LOT OF YOU JOBBIE JABBING TORY SCUMBAGS!!!!!!
Another bleeding tribale Mac! All the haggis-eating Scotch communists have started landing on this blog, gaw haeme fer Snot’s sake.
See what happens when you get national exposure Mr Fawkes.
I don’t like the attitude the Scots present to the rest of us.
It’s time we cut Scotland loose.
Then we will be able to see how they deal with the likes of RBS and some other problems, on their own. Problems both known now and upcoming. The oil will be just about gone (due to scarcity pushing up price etc.) within the next decade.
Then what?
On a practical point- too many Mc’s and Mac’s in influence right now methinks.
Let me see. Would that include Sharon Shoesmith’s social services department? Or Livingstone’s support for Lee Jasper? Or the Regional Development Agencies? Or the FSA? Support for the EU? Or OFWAT, OFCOM, OFetc? The echelons of the NHS above registrar, the ranks of state education above head of department, the armed forces above colonel, the Foreign Office, the Home Office, the Ministry of Defence, any local government officer earning more than GBP40,000 a year?
I hope Cameron fires the lot. And ensures that their pensions are used to reduce the public sector deficit. They can work until they drop like the rest of us.
And there will be a requirement that in any family at least one generation out of three works in the real economy.
That should fix lowland Scotland!
These allegations have not made any national newspaper. Is this hypocrite not performing smear tactics herself? The truth is that she is a nothing MP, in a nothing party, with no policies. She should be thankful she is in the headlines.
That definitely makes sense.
Is Draper a Tory plant? He is doing a good job of destroying Labour.
Draper just needs a shrink.
It’s apparent that Draper is in denial and hasn’t fully grasped the magnitude of his offence yet against the party he professes during his many weekend interviews – “ad nauseum” to love. Very well I will spell it out to him – Derek you have very probably lost Labour the next election by your inane actions and subsequent mutterings on the airwaves – that is probably some achievement in the three months you have been overseeing Labour’s foray onto the internet – LabourList.Org.
You should tender your resignation as Editor before you return to the political maelstrom enveloping these shores from your holiday in the Canary Islands
The election was already lost. Draper and the rest of this stuff add meat to that decision and justify people’s feelings. It’ll get worse for them, too. They’ll be blamed for every ill and NuLab – the Third Way – is facing demise.
Quite right. A genuine shrink who did not just visit Berkeley and who manged to turn up and complete the degree course.
Draper IS a shrink…well, he bought the certificate at any rate.
Draper is definitely a leaker. I’ve seen him in the Westminster Arms many times with piss running down his legs.
That’s his head you mean? – as in Borneo TribesPerson’s style? – then hung in the men’s hut as a trophy?
shurly you mean a drink..
Will someone not rid me of this meddlesome sight?? – LabourList.Org
No he doesn’t.
He’s doing just fine.
Let him go on digging. For every inch (sorry cm) down he goes, 1000 voters are turned off Liebour, hopefully for ever.
How long does it take to tunnel through to Australia again?
The offence is relitavely minor. Compared to say Damian Green being arrested, for basically doing exactly the same thing.
But unfortunately trying to bribe home office officials to release the info for smears and leaks. Not having the intelligence to just use rumours already doing the rounds.
Cameron having an STD. Mrs Mop having an affair. Viscount Osborne being a drugged up, prostitute user, who used to black himself up at college.
I’ve really heard all 3 numerous times. The unfortunate thing being, I guarentee all 3 will probably come out before election day. Someone is bound to come forward, wanting to make a buck.
Thise Osborne picks. I’m pretty sure Labour are already in posession of them.
Shrink! Thought he was one……….or is that another lie?
Is that you Dolly at 420?
Certainly smells like you trying to get the message out.
I don’t think Draper matters much, do you? Tom Watson on the other hand matters a bit. What did he know and when?
He fucked Nadine?
We must have an election now. Mr Macavity Brown and the thugs with whom he surrounds himself must go.
I speak as a ‘floating voter’.
Whereas Gordon Brown spends most of his time speaking to his floaters.
The whole governmnent has to go. These people are destroying families and individual people. They are terrorist nazi’s. On top of everything else we suffer, how about the endless radio commercials, scaring the shit out of our children, falsely claiming that these arseholes are protecting us from potential shopping center explosions! I can’t even have the bloody radio on in my house anymore. They are the bloody threat to this nation. Nazi facists the lot of them. In the name of God. GO. Thank you, Guido from the bottom of my heart. Keep exposing them bastards.
Great work Guido. You are officially my hero. But there are issues here for the Tories, looking towards how they behave in Government:
1. Political parties and their politicians, like all leaders, need to have integrity. And integrity is important. You cannot command respect without it. And like virginity, once lost it can never regained.
2. As a leader, claiming you did not know what your close advisers were doing or that whilst unethical ‘it’s OK because it’s within the rules’ just won’t wash with the floating vote. The tribal vote will always overlook problems, but they don’t win elections.
3. If a staff member has shown a complete lack of integrity, you sack them and – here’s the lesson for NuLab – never employ them again as leopards tend not to change their spots. Draper is a proven lying shit and always will be. I am sure Lord Manbypanby will blow up in their faces at some stage too. (Dave – think Jeffrey Archer, think Jonathan Aitken, think David Mellor. Don’t ever go there.)
4. The politicisation of the civil service needs to be reversed. Civil servants should be neutral. Political advisers are party animals. They need to be kept entirely separate.
5. The dead tree press will forever more follow the blogosphere. It’s been easy for Dave in opposition. It will be harder in Government, and he needs to think now how to keep ahead of that change.
Wise words
Political parties will never have integrity as long as their members are whipped in to submission every time a vote is taken.
Left, middle and right is entirely inappropriate.
Agreed John.
Dead right.
As it happens, I DO think it matters who started the politicisation of the civil service. It is history, and he who does not know history risks making the same mistakes again.
I also think it important to learn the lesson of WHY.
The civil service was politicised by a PM whose dogmatic belief in the rightness of everything she wanted to do overrode even the most commonsense objections.
Today we have much the same situation.
Dave – depoliticise the CS and, while you’re at it, undo another of Maggie’s appalling errors that Bliar and Brown eagerly followed and take all those ‘advisers’ (= party hacks) off the public payroll.
I hope you also listened to Derek Scott on Today. Deadly stuff. You may get that third scalp sooner than you think.
Not sure what you mean but it’s a bit like a pin on the King in chess – now anyone will be sacrificed to save Brown
who wouldnt given the chance.just a milf
That is disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself.
She loves it. I’ve got the Villiers syndrome – still, if alcohol’s available won’t hurt any…
& Kate missed it. What a shame she is missing a major political scandal, her insight could have been invaluable.
Who interviewed her? Please tell me it wasn’t Mrs. Draper-Garraway
On hols with Derek who is or was in the Canary Islands somewhere
Should have seen the face of the BBC presenter after
interviewing Nadine Dorries MP. Curdled my milk.
I’ve heard that they are in Lanzagrotty.
How nice. Apparently.
Penny Smith who described Guido as a Tory blogger.
You mean he isn’t?! My world has come tumbling down, I no longer know up from down! The apocalypse is upon us!
Seriously, find something worth-while to say or don’t bother. Doesn’t Jaqui’s husband have a receipt for the latest copy of “Jugs” to claim for or something?
BBC R5 phone in.
The whitewash starts here.
Get ready for instructions from No.10 relayed to you by Brown Broadcasting Corporation.
Death throws of a dieing government, the the lights off on your way out mr brown
“Death throws of a dieing government, the the lights off on your way out mr brown”
Did you learn English ’somewhere near’ UCLA, Anonymous?
I did not have sexual relations with that shrink.
He was too shrunken to be of any use
But Anton the Burk well he said doggy style was a dance move.
How was I too know any different???????????
Derek Draper must be the best electoral asset that the Tories have right now…
Definite Peerage from Cameron’s first Honours List then ?
I hope Cameron ditches the honours system if/when the Cons get in. Old fashioned and prolongs the party stink in British life.
While they’re at it take back the gong from dishonest Lewis Hamilton, he only got it so soon in his career because snotty wanted to bathe in some reflected glory. Doh, that didn’t work.
Sub-prime Minister not fit for purpose.
YES. Every time Draper opens his mouth, the Tories gain another ten thousand votes.
Says a lot for the party that does, don’t you think?
You called the man an asset, even his wife doesn’t get past the second “s”.
Yep, I think it will a day brown cries his eye out, his mobile ends up broke and he comforts himself with a nose picking session.
Or maybe he’ll forget all about it and go relieve “ones-self” on the sofa next to dear Jaqui’s husband?
or borrow her 88p bath plug?
Or both! The bathplug may prove incriminating should he wish to wash away the “evidence”….
Boris has done well in London. It has been clean as a whistle. Let that be the model for David.
One of the key weaknesses in the Labour position. Boris hasn’t made many mistakes and looks in control of things. So bang goes the Tories aren’t competent line of argument.
Alan Johnson just made a right arse of himself on R5. Very hot under the collar which is very unlike him.
HOHHOHO
He’s on R4 now doing the same spin job. Doesn’t it make you tired.
Yes. A different twat each day will noy make this any more believable. The bottom line is that this was authorised from the top.
Who’s next to talk …. Blears, Harman, Smith? Please .. just go.
He’s just he has no idea where the emails come from!!
I don’t think they get the point. It doesn’t matter where the emails came from or how they were obtained.
Doesn’t Santa bring them?
…. no wait, thats just coal for naughty little boys. Tut Tut.
“we want a robust debate with the Tories (…on the future for this country..on policies)” – Good Grief! All your party has done is shut down debate!
Campbell is spinning this line in the Times. I tried to respond with the following, but I doubt it will get past their moderation.
“The unhinged Campbell’s patrician disdain for McBride is quite telling. The emphasis on the claim that the Tories have no policies, despite New Labour having stolen several, is more so because it fingers Campbell as the architect of this particular spin.”
He knows that Brown is innocent and knew nothing about any of this — without having spoken to him. In that case, Alan Johnson must have been involved too.
Johnson was very canny on R4. He made the right angry, outraged noises, and put the boot into McBride big time. I suspect he’s settling a few scores there…
On the other hand, Johnson was careful to distance Brown from knowledge of any McBride’s antics. But when asked directly whether he had spoken to Brown about this, Johnson said no!
Cunning bastard :)
Johnson’s lining himself up for the leadership when Brown falls…might be sooner than we think.
A vote of no confidence within a month perhaps?
Johnson on Sky said that the public would far rather hear about his postpooned visit to a hospital than the listen to him trying to spin away the damage done by McBride/Watson and Draper.
These politicians just don’t get it! I suspect that apart from the hospital’s head honchos, nobody gives a damn whether Johnson visits a hospital or jumps under a bus.
The conceit of these guys is just incredible.
I didn’t see it but I read it and my heart goes out to him a bit. Was he really the bunny who got pushed into the firing line? Doesn’t seem fair, really – surely there are other ministers closer to this action. Or was Johnson the only one whose loyalty and decency could be imposed upon?
They must have something on him, or he’s a complete fuckwit …. but then both are true of most Labour MPs.
I am ‘neutral’ but you have to admit that it was Mrs T who started the politicisation of the Civil Service
Oh FFS – and how long ago was that exactly?
How many Prime Ministers and General Elections ago?
4 err turnip – oh I give up
Another history re-writing NuLab fellow travelling twat. Fuck of Francois and take your pooftah name with you.
I am not NuLab. Just an honest historian. I am backing the Conservatives.
‘Honest historian’?
Name one.
Neutral? You might as well have started your post, “I’ve always voted Tory, but never again…………………blah, blah, blah”
Stooge.
There we have then — it was all Mrs Thatcher’s fault that McBride sent obscene and scurrilous E -Mails to Dolly !!!
Even if you are “neutral” which is debateable. The “left” really need to get over it-she was last in power almost 19 years ago. A present generation of voters don’t even recall her and view her as distant as Churchill or Attlee to their present woes/circumstances. Labour has been in power for 12 years and even if your assertion was correct – they don’t appear to have done anything to de-politicise the Civil Service do they ? It’s like saying that Neville Chamberlain was responsible for the “Three Day Week !”
All right, all right, I see. But he was responsible for it.
Unsworth says: ‘Honest historian’? Name one.
Don’t worry about historians they tell stories. That’s why its called ‘his-story’
I don’t think it matters who started it. I just think that it matters that this bunch are wedded to the gutter. I have this theory that they all watch West Wing over and over and convince themselves that they are cool, intelligent and witty like Josh, Toby and CJ – the trouble is they kind of decided that integrity and decency were optional extras that don’t apply to them.
I can confidently forecast an increase in sales over the next few weeks.
Nah … No 10 have got a cupboard-full – which they are no longer bothering to re-stock!
We have had our inquiry over the breakfast table.
All the front bench and SPODS are guilty.
Please deliver us 200 yards of piano wire and 20 lamp posts
20 lamp-posts is nowhere near enough.
I have calculated that the number of lamp-posts wasting light up in to the night sky by now should just about equal the number of arseholes working on the public purse. THAT’s how many we need. Waste not want not !
Alan Douglas
Well, if we run out of lamp-posts there are still a few trees left.
Don’t you think 10 yards of piano wire per lamppost is a tad generous?
Demand a change, the Thai way
we can do you an Easter cash deal…plse supply address
So McBride didn’t make the stuff up then? The stories were doing the rounds anyway, like a lot of other stories do the rounds for years with no-one daring to publish them. (Anyone remember the ones in the early 1990s about Portillo and Lilley?) And presumably some of those stories are pure nonsense, and others rooted in a truth.
But McBride is, apparently, just the gimp who wrote them down (doing on a government email, which was clearly not either smart or acceptable).
Surely the slanderer is the one who brings them into the public domain?
Johnson doesn’t like telling lies. Especially for the sort of people involved in this cover-up.
He knows that he can always tell the truth more than once without thinking…
He also knows it’s the cover-ups that will bring Brown down…
Agreed – Alan is a good bloke from what I hear and his performance had fear aggression all over it.
He probably knows that if Brown doesn’t get a grip and stop this contagion – he’ll probably have to pick up the pieces
Local Primaries for candidate selection will break the whips
He replaces phones as often as he puts his glass eye in.
Too busy to comment …. I’m having a dump.
Alan Johnson on Radio4 today: “Derek Scott is gossip”; “no culture around Brown which made this inevitable”; “you have to ask Tony if the gossip anbout him was unacceptable”; “this is on a completely different level”; “I completely accept that this was not two blokes having a laugh”; “this is a level of cruelty and unacceptability that we cannot possibly accept”. He tried to draw a line under it. Naughtie would not let him: “What should the PM do?” Johnson: “You can’t hold one person responsible”. He blames the anonymity of the blogsites – trying to shoot the messenger. Johnson ended by trying to claim the moral highground. Failed dismally.
Alan Johnson needs putting out to seed.
“You can’t hold one person responsible”
Correct – Brown is involved too.
Even Labour-supporting James Naughtie seems to be disgusted by Labour’s latest dirty tricks. He didn’t give that worm-tongued Johnson an easy ride.
Even the Labour stooges at the BBC know that Gordon Brown was behind these smears.
mmm so how do you know that, arent you now doing the same thing , those 2 done, making comments, about , and creating fiction, think i should print, the bbc know that gordon brown, was behind smears, lets get that rumour started.
How am I doing, Gordon, Your Majesty?
Brown can kill this dead but as the saying goes his mis-fortune is that he’s “pyschologically incapable of apologising”. All he needs to do is personally apologise on behalf of the Labour Party to Cameron et al(he can still spin it that he was totally unaware – lessons learnt whatever – appalled when he knew etc etc). The matter will then probably just fizzle out
The longer he leaves the inevitable the more dangerous and serious it becomes for him and Labour and for someone who is purpotedly a “political person” he’s playing it very badly. Blair would have immediately been on the “airwaves” offering his personal effusive apology – “look I’m a regular sort of guy” – “full enquiry etc etc” mode and looking very contrite at the same time. He would have put Cameron in a fix – does he refuse to accept the apology and look petty or does he accept it. Labour would have been “off the hook” with the public at large but Brown doesn’t seem to realise how this is being viewed and the longer it goes on the worse it’s becoming.
Delightful and long it may it so continue -
Fucking gold dust Guido. Just back from a week in Barbados to find you’ve really put the cat amongst the pigeons. Most fucking excellent. I think the police need to be involved to determine the source of this leak. Oh, and also to investigate mis-use of public computers. They might want to have a good look at the rest of McBrides output and who he was sending it to. You never know what they might find.
As usual though Labour will be spinning this as a breach of national security (interception/leaking of e-mails) and some patriot will be be fucked over for his pension while the Labour scum march glibly on with their fixed fuck-witted grins and the policies of Mugabe.
What the bloody hell did you come back for? Dropped a bollok there bud.
eh eh eh , did you not apply sun blocker , when in barbados, the police dont need to be involved, there was no leak.
Still no comment other than a “statement” from Broon. He must be in a blind panic. It’s all coming home to roost.
He’s Macavity. He isnt there. He has been Macavity all his political life. Remember Iraq. Mr Macavity Brown left Blair to take all the heat. Brown was invisible.
Even PM Macavity will find it hard to maintain he was never in No 10 Downing Street when this was going on. He also had lunch with Drooper at Chequers, why exactly? Why was it invited, what was discussed?
Ha Ha Ha, today’s Sun has the best line…dont stop Guido, dangle that piece of paper, but wait till the fuss begins to die down, the fox is about…
“Mr Draper apologised last night for “stupidly” responding to the emails. He insisted the smears were “just daft ideas” which were “destined for the trash can”.
But Downing Street is braced for further damaging revelations, amid fears more emails are set to emerge.
d.wooding@the-sun.co.uk“
“The trash can”? Where did he learn to speak like this? Oh, it must have been Berkeley.
It is all very simple
a) Brown knew nothing
b) Brown knew what was going on but felt he was deniably safe
Either way he is culpable; guilty by participation or guilty by mismanagement.
Personally, he is as guilty as sin. Moral Compass, the Parliamentary side of my erse. His DNA is suspect.
In fact, the progress being made on gene mapping should offer us the opportunity to screen all newborn and treat those displaying political manifestations.
This political corpse has rotten to far to be resurrected. The only solution is the Soylent Green one.
I am not eating fucking Labour politicians. Although I have no objection to Brown et al being hunted to extinction.
There is a religious joke in there this Easter about trans substantiation but I cannot be bothered.
Just feed them all to real pigs
Just hang on a bloody minute every atom in the universe has a use.
Why not export it to South American hunter gatherers to tip their darts? Think of the number of frogs you will save.
Dear Guido,
Good work. Now you should investigate the world of Welsh Labour, who have been using truly vicious smears against their opponents (mostly Plaid Cymru) for years – they even stooped so low as to attack an English Plaid Cymru Assembly member for her north of England accent. They smeared anyone they could lay their hands on, and the whole thing was run on a site called Natwatch, now taken down, which is known to have been run by the researcher of a Labour Assembly member, during Assembly time, and with the direct approval of Welsh Labour senior people.
Scottish labour similar, but MUCH more thuggish and very VERY nasty!
The Glenrothes by election won by Labour against everybodies expectations was won by 7,000 postal votes.
The records concerning this and the actual votes have mysteriously disappeared.
There now sees to be the creeping knowledge that a Northern Ireland registered company (in Londonderry) was involved in providing technical assistance for this postal vote. Now everyone knows the N I is the probity capital of the World of democratic voting.
This self same company Opt2vote is related (allegedly) to another called Northgate which which hosts Labour sites such as http://www.davethechameleon.com and http://www.labour.org.uk.
Now we know.
“It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen”
http://subrosa-blonde.blogspot.com/
Scottish Labour Politics is where the Mafia send their boys for hardening!
Be afraid, be very afraid of NuLiebor’s postal vote scamming.
They are refining it right now.
Ruin’s bullies opposed individual rather than householder voter registration so Liebour’s extended family Muslim fodder could ensure proper tribal representation — a fistful of votes per household all filled out by big daddy on instructions from his local community leadah (ie mosque mullah).
Remember Birmingham Liebour and Judge Richard Mawrey’s finding?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4410743.stm
What’s the betting there’ll be an amnesty for all illegal immigrants just in time to register for the next election. After all they have to get someone to vote for the them & they are bleeding desperate as we have seen
At this particular stage in Scotland’s evolution to become a great nation among nations, I suspect it’s going to particularly leeching onto the teat of the English taxpayer so I’m betting on a pretty clean Labour sweep anyway.
Where’s Brown?
You should all know I go into hiding in times like these.
On his rocking horse again ?
hes having his eye polished so when he does come out it will be “twinlkling” and we will be blinded by his resignation speech
joolz
I completely disagree with Dorries on nearly every annoying thing she has to say (we at the Rocket Group are a science-based lot), but this episode has me feeling rather sorry for her.
i have a question for dorries, a number of weeks ago on radio 5 live, she says she spends, around £22,000 per year on rent, paid for by her allowance, my question is, are you , is she in anyway related to the person or company that owns the property, this public money goes to, or is my question too simple, but i would like an answer, as to who gets this £22,000 per year rent.
Posting once on a subject is fine…you’re now taking the piss, Fuck off!
malpaso are you standing in for the 3_Pride Stooges or just another Labour gremlin hopping about worrying sheep? In the circumstances your question is ridiculous.
Go and ask Brown if he knew about the emails (we know the answer already).
I’m sorry to be rude but your English is dreadful; I presume you speak it as a second language. If you want to leave comments then it might be a good idea to spend your money on finding someone to help you improve it. If you have a question for Mrs NADINE Dorries then I suggest you write to her in a proper manner – contact will be on the website They Work For You.
Reported by Devil’s Kitchen from the Ranting King Penguin:
“Transport Secretary Geoff Hoon paid his wife nearly £70,000 of taxpayers’ money in rent on his constituency office after transferring ownership of the building from his name to hers.
Mr Hoon paid his wife Elaine out of the allowance MPs receive to cover the cost of office accommodation away from Westminster.”
So far, i think she’s doing well. A couple of interviewers have obviously underestimated her and she’s made them look a bit silly. Not rocket science? Oh well, you try doing it.
“A fish rots from the head down”, old Russian proverb
does it?
That image has made my meager breakfast leave the building.
Have you seen this on Tom Watson’s blog?
http://www.tom-watson.co.uk/
Happy Easter – I don’t think so.
Seemed to be a load of stiff on the front page about gay teens. Best left well alone, unless your name’s Richard Timney, of course.
“stuff”, though on reflection stiff was quite Freudian, no?
Daniel Hannen names Kevin Maguire of the Daily Mirror and Andy McSmith of the Independent.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/daniel_hannan/blog/2009/04/13/damian_mcbride_and_derek_draper_i_suspect_i_was_one_of_their_targets
Maguire? McSmith? Scottish mafia?
Should of kept quiet, Kevin’s readers very unhappy bunnies.
That asian woman on the beeb has to go. She spoke to that Tory woman as if she was a woman lying about being raped. So much for the mythical sisterhood! I have rarely seen the proto-fascist beeb (too kind a name) carry out such appalllingly biased interviews, Andrew Marr would be proud! Now one must believe that a political strategy to decapitate the Tories that has been round for months was not concocted at the dark heart of the Cyclopean one’s impregnable fortress of evil! What do you think? Of course as the asian woman said ‘clearly there is no proof! They have denied it!’ Well you would deny it and of course one does not need proof one may infer from available evidence is direct evidence is not forthcoming. It is called using your commom sense. Fire the biased asian: it rather annoyed me this morning. I don’t like to see victims being further victimised. Sisterhood my arse. Tool for Nu Lab!
big BEEB story breaking over next week
They are giving back our money because they are all partisan, leftie twats?
I too saw that and thought it one of the most appalling one sided interviews ever. The look on her face at the end though was priceless. Clearly a very composed ND had the measure of her.
she will lose her job after the next election
I couldn’t see it KK but I’m so glad you said that. I’m becoming a bit of a fan of Nadine
Is it available on iPlayer or YouTube (search for dorries there gave nothing relevant)?
pity this interviewer did not ask n.d how she manages to claim £22,000 per year rent, from the taxpayer, would love to know if n.d. is in anyway related to the person or the company who collect this very very dear rental. mmmmmmmm ?????????
I saw that too and became rather incensed that the interviewer, whatever her bloody name is, would not let Nadine finish one sentence without interrupting. Bitch!
Yep, saw it too and I thought ND was very composed and answered well. The beeboid clearly was spinning for Brown. She (actually and everyone at the Brown Broadcasting Corporation) should be sacked at the next election.
ps Nadine Dorries is a babe :)
Early election Quick.
3 million unemployed? When the next administration takes over there will be 15,000 immediate vacancies to fill at Broadcasting House TV Centre and Bush House, should help cut the dole queues.
Next headline………….. Bi Polar runs riot in New Labour recommended cure complete bed rest
Alan Johnson said Brown was NOT RESPONSIBLE *NOT* BROWN DID NOT KNOW.
What did Brown know??
Red Rag COULD be seen before it was taken down, you just had to know which URL to type in – more DOCUMENTS are waiting to come out.
ANY policitican or journalist who DEFENDS BROWN will go DOWN WITH HIM.
Brown is a SOCIOPATH – determined to fight his own demons – he will destroy ALL around him doing so.
The Labour spin machine never sleeps, I’ll bet that they’re thinking that it looks like a good day to bury bad news.
A prize to whoever spots it first……..Guido’s buying!
Just seen Nadine Dorries on BBC Breakfast. Honestly the grilling she got from that cow interviewing her made you think that Gordon Brown was the victim. Fair play to Nadine for giving as good as she got, the look on the reporters’ face when ND refused to say what she would do next was brilliant.
Congratulations for bringing all this to light Guido, bet your site counter’s gone through the roof this weekend.
David Cameron: Please privatise BBC
The BBC are Establishment twats.
the BBC can be broken, keeping the best.
the license fee can be halved – perhaps half distributed to ITV, subsidising advertising so that the ITV/Advertising model can be rebuilt.
Defo – slow death for Beeb not summarary execution – think about Fiona Bruce – I want to protect her…… err…… plus the Masters was top drawer last night – me poorly head.
Attacking the BBC makes me very uncomfortable – but increasingy I can’t argue against allegations of their political bias. Surely they should be holding the government to account and not concentrating on undermining the opposition
big bbc story breaking soon
nadine didnt answer , but i can imagine her answer, she is going to claim as much time and mileage out of this as she can, are you stupid, dont you know she loves being in the spotlight like the rest of them,
Malpaso, its way past your bedtime, come in at one.
Cows are fairly harmless useful animals, therefore should not have their name used as a form of abuse! Someone calls me a bitch, I thank them for the compliment. Anyone who has dogs will understand!
big bbc story breaking over the next week
do go away francy
Seen this summary from bedsonsunday and is that a clue?
http://www.bedsonsunday.com/bedsonsunday/DisplayArticle.asp?ID=407777
Guido
Slightly OT -I have not seen any response from the editor DT to your comment or the many other communications on the deplorable behaviour of his journalists. I do hope you will continue to press him
See http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/5145640/How-the-Labour-smear-email-story-unfolded.html which I’m sure Guido will comment on.
The DT is still not allowing readers’ comments on many of the McBride stories. Have they gone over to the dark side or just deeply ashamed of their shocking performance? Even the Grauniad is allowinf anti-Broonshirt comments.
Al Jebeeba must be shitting themselves right now. They know that every word that gets reported by them is going to get picked up on and reported in the blogospere. How long can they maintain the pretence of impartiality?
David Cameron: Please privatise the BBC
The BBC will maintain their specious pretext of impartiality even if it costs lives, q.v the Gaza humanitarian appeal. Spreading lies and half-truths is one thing – being complicit in death and suffering is quite another.
To the BBC – does your “impartiality” make you feel good?
Cabinet Office Minister Tom Watson, who masterminds Labour’s online campaigns MUST resign.
He was named in one emails and last night was forced to deny involvement.
He said: “I do not in any way condone the content of the email conversation. I regard it as completely inappropriate.”
Watson is responsible for Labour’s online campaigns. He knew about the vile smear campaign through an email. Yet Watson did nothing about it. Watson needs to be held accountable for his inaction.
Any chance that we can ditch the multi-syllabic and over-used euphemism “inappropriate”.
The word we need is the single syllable “wrong”.
Note that Watson only condemns the ‘content of the e-mail conversation’….nothing else.
Of course they knew and were involved. The clue is in the word “strategy”.
In a politico-business sense “strategy” is the process of planning, executing and co-ordinating various activities in an attempt to reach a goal. Strategy is essentially akin to planning but implies a maximisation of resources within logical thinking, intelligence (acquired knowledge), and leverage.
Strategy is different from tactics in that tactics are micro strategies that contribute individually to a larger goal.
A successful strategy begins with a goal, along with an analysis of the current situation, and then sets out a plan that addresses each operational aspect needed to realise the achievement of that goal. This generalized formula is characteristic of all strategy.
Whilst Brown may not have been aware of the specific details within the email exchange it is inconceivable that he did not know and approve of a strategy to smear political opponents to “de-stabilise” them.
To say Brown did not know is the equivalent to saying Churchill had no idea what Montgomery’s strategy for the D-Day campaign was. Preposterously unbelievable.
Agree with the general point – but wasn’t D-Day Eisenhower’s show? Monty, like all the Brits, had to kow-tow to the real boss, a Yank.
Some things never change.
Two comments really:
I’m amazed at the way the BBC has decided that the story IS about a little bit of juvenile behaviour about which Gordon ‘knew nothing’ – because Gordon says so – and then, when interviewing Nadine, refuses to accept her view that this is a long-running smear campaign orchestrated by the three top men at Downing Street. If everything that No. 10 says is to be accepted but everything everyone else says is to be challenged, how can the BBC ever present a balanced picture of any political situation?
I was contacted by the DT and invited to subscribe to the paper. Having read it for nearly forty years, I thought it was a very good offer. Then I read Guido’s cryptic comments about DT behaviour re this situation and was, to say the least, stunned. So, I pasted the comment into one of the DT’s ‘views’ saying ’shame on you’, only to have it censored. Now what I want to know is can I cancel the subscription?
Strange that I left a normal comment, about the reporter drinking with McBride and how the Telegraphs standards had fallen. That was moderated off as well. I wonder how many more are removed
I posted a similar comment about shoddy journalism at the Mail Online.
It didn’t get posted.
The MSM are all as bad as one another, thats why people are turning to blogs like this where anyones comments, no matter which side of the spectrum are allowed
I’ve tried leaving several comments on different newspaper websites and have not seen them appear. None of my comments were sweary or rude – merely critical. I suppose it’s possible that there are so many people trying to leave comments that the moderators on those sites are being swamped and have resorted to moderating every third or fourth one.
I fail to see why you’re amazed by the BBC’s version of it – when the story first broke late Friday/early Saturday their coverage may as well have been dictated over the phone by McBride. The Beeb’s visceral hatred of the Tories runs deep enough for it to pinch its nose and produce any old rubbish to stop giving the Conservatives favourable coverage.
I’m not. Look at the way they reported the first FMD outbreak! Blairs’ broadcasting Company blamed the farmers. Had to rely on Channel 4 for any news on it.
If you find out, can you let us know here?
Brown is down. Now kick him hard and often. Don’t let him get back up.
Wouldn’t do any good, look at how bouncy he’s been recently.
Just visited Dolly’s site . . .
Ackowledge? Peurile? Suppported?
Where was this moron educated? Berk(eley)?
I’ll have a “P” please, Bob.
I thought she said “months ago”, so that would place the emails in January as “this year”…….but did I hear right? They’re from January 2009 aren’t they?
Maguire’s piece on this is a diabolical insult to all Shield’s Lads the twat. Shields is my home town and I disassociate myself and Shields with what the scumbag said. He should rink at The Westoe. There’s a far better crowd there.
Nadine thingy is right of course. Number 10 is a ‘house’ and Brown has a duty to look after it. They are all it it giving defence and trying to clamp down the story but there are questions rightly being raised over Brown’s involvement. For one: If he isn’t ‘responsible’ for emails being sent from No10, then how the fuck is he capable of monitoring national security?
In regard to nation security, HE is responsible and should be asking “What else has been sent, who sent it, where and to who was it sent, did it raise a matter of national interest and security, and where the fuck is the Home Office Minister” – Jacqui Smith where are you? Why have you (or Brown), or any other person with a duty to watch security at No10, not yet ordered a police enquiry, a search and seizure, of those computers, emails and the persons involved?
Is it because you’re all at this and are all part of the same hypocrisy you bastards?
Rugfish, very good point, ‘if’ gordon brown did ‘not’ know what was going on, and he then finds out about this disgusting smear campaign, organised by one of his close and trusted friends, that has the potential to harm his high office, surely he would want an investigation into exactly what has been going on, who else may be involved, why they felt that this behaviour would be acceptable in any way or form, we’re others aware but turning a blind eye, etc.. I’m damn sure i would want know. get those computors checked gordon, otherwise you will ‘not’ know whether there is any more damaging actions to come.
P.S there isnt a way this lot can cover up or delete potentially harmful documents. is there?? i really hope not.
Leave it with me dear boy – some of those documents were destroyed in the basement flood. Those building works caused havoc with some documents being misplaced.
Oh, those Chinese have hacked in to the computer system and we lost some records there.
Now you mentioned documents. What documents?
Charlie Boy,
Yes, you cancel the direct debit with your bank. You write to the Daily Telegraph cancelling the subscription, sending back the coupons you have demanding they pay the money back! (I doubt if they have got any!!)
In the letter you can be as direct as you wish. I have told them I find their weasel actions over this scandal absolutely shocking, bad journalism and having been a reader of …years am disgusted that anewspaper I respected has degenerated into an organ of the PM!!
Yours ever.
Fraser Nelson, who usually is on the ball, has dropped it somewhat with this one:-
http://www.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/3534476/has-the-damage-limitation-worked.thtml
The MSM is way behind the curve on this one…the story will run, it has legs.
Just like April 9, 1992 was known as the ‘Waterloo of the Polls’ so shall April 11, 2009 be known as the ‘Waterloo of the MSM’. For too long they have tried to keep a lid on the goings on within this disgraceful excuse for a government.
LABOUR CÜNTS, LABOUR CÜNTS, LABOUR CÜNTS, CÜNTS, CÜNTS, CÜNTS.
oh dear, such a depressing country we live in now, to think someone like you is allowed to vote, frightening.
It is called freedom of speech – if you don’t like it then go and live in Iran or North Korea.
LABOUR HOONS, LABOUR HOONS, LABOUR HOONS…
Ah. Good of you to join us Two Jags!
ok simon good idea, your very very clever.
More frightening that people like you, malpaso, have kept this criminal gang of NeoNazis in power for 12 years. New Labour have made the country depressing, old cock, and people are angry. When they get angry, except in New Labour’s socially-engineered, though & speech policed world, they tend to swear.
Personally I’d like to see the anger and swearing harnessed into something much more destructive to New Labour and their supporters.
malpaso….you are a NuLab fuckwit so please piss off back to your little Hoonhole and never bother us again.
Oh the irony – and YOU’RE not very clever.
When a football manager puts a loose cannon like Gazza or Rooney in the team it is always a risk that it may go pear shaped but the manager is responsible
McBride has been in Brown’s first team for years and an unfit Draper was pulled off the subs bench to see if he could knock in a few goals against a ragbag team of Tory bloggers who were running rings around aging Labour, for fucks sake Prescott was the star of the team
Brown, I am not sure that you knew what was going on exactly because I am not sure that you have the intelligence, but you sure are responsible as manager of the team
..currently scoring own goals
Michael Meacher, bless him.
http://www.michaelmeacher.info/weblog/2009/04/mcbride_the_poisoning_of_polit.html
“McBride: the poisoning of politics”
Great Meacher piece. Macavity Brown has failed him, Frank Field, Charles Clarke and the other decent Labour politicians.
It’s the Ashley piece that is the killer.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/apr/13/damian-mcbride-email-gordon-brown-cameron-osborne
Brown has used McBride for years, and McBride has faithfully followed the bidding of his master. The spin, the destabilisations, the crude political defenestrations – all down to McBride carrying out his brief. In short, Brown gave McBride license to do what he did – Brown had no need to know what McBride was working on because his approval was already given.
This is the ‘Nixon Syndrome’.
And Ashley is wrong: McBride is not Brown’s ’sinister twin’ instead Brown is McBride’s ‘reason d’etre’, Frankenstein to his monster.
Yes – the Ashley piece is devastating.
Memo to David Cameron: If you hire anyone like McBride or Draper for your team it will be the death-knell.
The ‘I love myself, who do you love ?’ Asian woman carrying out the interview of Nadine Dorries, on BBC Breakfast was none other than Sonia Deol. Google her and it becomes apparent as to which side of the political fence she sits.
Perhaps someone should enlighten her that part of the art of interviewing is listening. Her aggressive, argumentative and interruptive style, whilst acting as the government spokeswoman, was true to the normal BBC standards of impartiality.
Sonia Deol will lose her BBC job after the election.
There must also be an inquiry board to investigate so called journalists who are little more than political operatives.
or inside traders like peston
shut up you complete toss…if ever there was a station who editorially assassinated this government continually it is the BBC.. After next election, enjoy seeing a country with no f**king schools or hospitals and fat basta*d tories gleaning what they can from hard working taxpayers….oh, yeah, and lining the pockets of their homo arab boyfriends
Thank you Mcfuckpig for yoiur considered words.
Now..does us all & favour & fuck off.
ps..
Are you really a porridgewog?
178
As opposed to homo Brazilian boyfriends?
Fuck off.
i do wish sonia, asked nadine, who gets the £22.000 rent she pays on her home , claimed as an allowance, me wonders if it is paid to anyone she is related too, or friendly with. seems rather high rental, £22,000 per year mmmmmmm???????
I reckon every MP should be made to explain where this money goes, not just one. But then, some (Sorry, meant many!) Labour MP’s would get caught too, and you wouldn’t want that would you. Nice to the Labour spinners working so hard over the bank holiday. You getting a day in lieu for this?
I thought I told you to fuck off malpaso? Why are you still here?
£ 22,000 doesn’t sound high at all for somewhere to live in central London.
Malpaso, I won’t tell you again, time for bed
Charlie Stayt on the other hand did quite a good job of interviewing Alan Johnson who was frantically spinning the McBust line of “it wasn’ae me”.
I was really impressed by Charlie this morning. First time for years I’ve actually heard a BBC presenter give a Labour snout a bashing.
Well done……….but don’t take your dog for a walk anytime soon.
I have to say I’m a bit shocked by that. If true is is a much bigger deal than the Sachgate thing (grubby though that was).
It’s got nowt to do with me I don’t even know this McBride fellow and all my expenses are completely above board except for the odd DVD and stack of porn at weekends when Jacqui’s away at her sisters to keep up appearances. Oops, I didn’t intentionally mean to say that.
Its a nice day for a Bar-b-q -anybody fancy coming over for chicken legs, Leibfraumilch and a watch of some An*l boutique? It won’t cost you a penny (not this year anyway)
Chicken legs?? Chicken legs ?? !!
Bet you got somfin’ meatier than chicken legs I can chew on!!
Kno wot oi mean?? Phworr!
Upyours…..you can only read about common purpose on the blogs…because common purpose is the cancer which has a grip on all sections of public life, local councils, policing and national the BBC most national newspapers the list goes on and on.
Nothing about this ‘charity’ is written in any newspapers. letters submitted on the subject are never printed!
There is a direct link of common purpose through the PM’s office to control HQ in Brussels..yes that hub of democracy the EU!
They have got a grip on us all (or that is what they believe) God help them when the English wake up!
If anyone would like to join Common Purpose could you please ask Gordon or one of our other team at Number 10 to send me an email to confirm it please.
Thank you.
Interesting comment from Mr Dale’s blog by Granny Catchpole.
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6214838&postID=3866114049027397751
who gives a shit? Guido has to pay the bills at Teso like all of us.
These tactics of smear and untruth makes one think of Goebbels’ “the bigger the lie, the bigger the truth”, & all that that implies.
Do MacBride & Draper not realize what they are doing.
It would appear that Nazi tactics allied to Broon’s Stalinist tendencies are in the ascendant in the Labour Party.
The sooner we clear the rats out of the bunker the better.
“Tally Ho Chaps, we’re going in”
I keep saying they are Commufascists!
Nazis, neoFascists, Marxists, Marxo-Communists, Marxist-Socialists, its all one and the same thing with McBust he’s been an entryism enthusiast since he was a student union trot activist.
After the peace, a NuLab Nuremberg tribunal should be convened, treason is still a capital punishment.
“Do MacBride & Draper not realize what they are doing” Indeed – it’s a gift to anyone and everyone in opposition:
‘Goebbels rose to power in 1933 along with Hitler and the Nazi party, and he was appointed propaganda minister … He exerted totalitarian control over the media, arts, and information in Germany. In that position, he perfected the “Big Lie” technique of propaganda, which is based on the principle that a lie, if audacious enough and repeated enough times, will be believed by the masses’
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Goebbels
“10 years of Bliar glitz followed by 2 of the Brown substance.”
…. and we now know what this substance smells of don’t we.
Spreading the news, one post at a time…
http://thatsnews.blogspot.com/2009/04/latest-on-drapergatesmeargate-scandal.html
Please could you leave Peter out of this, he’s not involved in any way at all with Common Purpose or Russian Oligarch’s and all his money was made legitimately. He’s a LORD you know!!!
Show some respect for Peter please he’s my friend!
With friends like me, who needs enemas ?
The Sun Leader is pretty disgusted with Labour
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/sun_says/article244723.ece
Murdoch and the Sun have been solid Blair supporters and have gone easy on Brown – until now.
Perhaps we can now look west through cracks in our Berlin Wall.
Whats the difference between Jade Goody and McBride? Jade had her vagina smeared…………..
Isnt cervical cancer due to unprotected sex with multiple partners? Something akin to genital warts? How was someone called Jade Goody able to dominate the media and affect policy?
Lets’s not forget Max Clifford. The man who did so much to attack the Conservatives in the 90s. He was also caught on tape lying setting up Louis Theroux.
Nu Lab are going to have to change to their name to NEW Nu Lab.
They can’t exactly go on the offensive by calling the Tories the ‘nasty’ party now, can they !
their options are becoming constrained
[...] works for Unite doesn't he? Thus far he has remained silent for some reason.Update: Guido notes Nadine's said the same on GMTV before BBC [...]
Guido, could you do us a favour and post a link to the ‘Smith Institute’ stuff within this thread?
What’s this Smith Institute business all about and does it figure in the current debacle?
I ask because one or two posters on the Guardian’s CiF have indicated that goings on at something called the Smith Institute represent Brown’s achilles heel and indicates why Brown would endorse the sleazy antics of McBride and Draper. The suggestion is that Brown is compromised and cannot take a principled stand insider sleaze because he’s up to it in his neck because of the Smith Institute.
Take a dive into Guido’s back issues, oooah, and go back to 2007 and look for the Sith all will be revealed.
I wish Gordon Brown would stop making us all dress up in suspenders and frillies on Fridays and I’d really like an enquiry to help put a stop to this lurid and debauched behaviour. Please help!
Nadine Dorris on Sky, going on about reputations and careers,no problem with reputations, go get em girl,I had no idea being an MP is a career, if this what the rest of the 640 odd MP’s in the HOC believe then we do have major problems
The Conservatives have been lacking “fire in their belly” since 97.
Perhaps the only they would wake up, get angry an defend the people was when they were personally affected.
Perhaps now they will see the best way to protect their family is to protect Britain.,
this is the best thing that has ever happened to nadine, she just loves the spotlight, no such thing as bad publicity, for career politicians.
Still here malpaso? Fuck off like a good little NuLab toady.
If you continue playing with the big boys malpaso you are going to get hurt. Now come in ! Tea’s ready
Are we having fun……………or What !!!!!!!!!!
I agree. Watching this shitsack full of serpents writhing around biting each other is top sport. Couldn’t happen to a more deserving bunch.
Stop all this nonsense, it’s giving us remaining ‘69ers’ a bad name.
Never before have I read such a load of old nonsense from so many people.
Not only is the spelling, punctuation and grammar of the majority of comments absolutely atrocious, the content is lame, acutely repetitive and inane.
I suggest you go out and get some minds of your own and stop playing ‘copy-cat’.
Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott
TeaBald Pigshit
you can have a full refund if you so desire
We dont need no edukashion we have Guido So bog off Oinker
Guido, someone called GRANNY CATCHPOLE is denigrating you on Dales blog…says you asked for £20.000!
Perhaps you could place your DT comment on Ian’s and demand he answer them!
And its been worth every penny and some, fill your boots Guido
The thought occurs that Mandelson has been instrumental in Draper’s reappearance. What better way to hide than behind the smokescreen of Drippy Draper’s ineptitude? This is typical of ZaNu Labour (“Good day to bury bad news”, etc)? Could Mandlebum be pulling strings whilst everyone is watching the fall of Draper and McNasty?
You obviously weren’t paying attention earlier.
My schedule is full since taking over the Reins at the Ministry for Cottage Industry (MinCI), consequently I am not here, I am not listening and moreover I do not know these people, nor anything about 30 faeces of Silva.
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From today’s Times:
“There are rumours of further e-mails that could be used to embarrass not only government figures but journalists as well. Members of the media are said to be named in e-mails from Mr McBride, which could raise questions over how close some journalists became to No 10.”
So which journalists were in McBride and Draper’s cabal and were spreading their poison through the media for them?
Here’s some names to ponder on:
Andrew Roberts, Melissa Kite, Rosa Prince, Patrick Hennessy, Ben Brogan, Nick Robinson, Andrew Marr.
Here’s another one: Robert Peston. Remember Paston’s vendetta against george Osborne over the Deripaska yacht affair? Peston is supposed to be BBC business editor but he pursued Osborne relentlessly over that particular bit of gossip. Many people would say that Peston seemed determined to smear him.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6083380.ece?token=null&offset=0&page=1
You missed out Brown smearer-in-chief: Kevin Maguire.
Dale fingers Maguire:
http://iaindale.blogspot.com/
Meanwhile Maguire continues to get ripped a new arsehole by over 160 posters on his Mirror blog:
http://blogs.mirror.co.uk/maguire/2009/04/spare-us-the-hypocrisy.html
‘Toenails’ Robinson kept the story going as well and has been constantly challnged by other posters on his blog to ask why Mandleson spent longer and what he was doing on the same yacht.
he has never yet done so. Tells you all you need to know.
Yep. And Peston’s breathless reporting of the banks being systematically undermined by leaks from the treasury only to be scoffed up on the cheap using taxpayer money while being used as a scapegoat. You remember how folk were commentating how Brown seemed to be revelling in the crisis? How he had a ’spring in his step’.
He wasn’t revelling in the crisis, he was fucking laughing his head off that the BBC reported the whole debacle as ‘a failure of capitalism’ complete with 1980’s film of pin-striped, red-braced traders and girls with massive perms and even more massive shoulder pads. He was walking tall because the BBC was pinning the whole fucking thing on Thatcher and painting him (Brown) as a man of action.
The fucker who dithered for a full year after Northern Rock while the rest of our banks went down the shitter. A man of action. Decisive.
I’m really beginning to loathe Brown and the BBC.
Absolutely spot on. We should not let the current scandal blindside the rest of his treachery.
The list of crass deliberate “mistakes” by the vile Scotch marxist are the stuff of legend.
Indeed might it be useful to produce a little list (apologies to G&S).
umm… start at P
1. pensions…
(All contributions gratefully received, shouldn’t take long to get to 1000).
You stupid boy! Osborne DESERVED to be hounded for is hooning with the Russian oligarch.
…& manhandlebum???
eh sober up, mr osbourne denied he was on the party yacht, first time round, all robert preston done was what any journalist would do, when he knows different, pursue the story, until mr osbourne admitted he was there, your just as bad as mcbride and draper, and maybe a little dimmer.
no mention of mr mandelson ???? why was he there as a euro commissioner?
This is the biggest part of the story, the opening up of the lobby system, private briefings and also the owners of newspapers distorting the stories. I imagine someone at M15 was monitoring the No10 emails and was appalled at what was coming out
Robert Peston is the BBC’s business editor so why did HE pursue a long vendetta against Osborne over the Deripaska yacht affair?
That story had nothing to do with Peston’s brief as business editor.
If anyone still believes that Gordon Brown wasn’t fully behind this smear campaign then they must be a complete idiot.
Brown has been smearing his opponents since his student politics days. It’s the way he’s always operated.
how do you know,
Read my biography of Gordon Brown
Someone is impersonating me and I’d like it to stop!
What nonsense!
The funniest thing is that Draper himself leaked these emails in order to get McBride out so he could go for his job.
He must now be wondering if he did the right thing.
I see that ‘Toilets’ Maguire is taking a good pasting for his latest bucket load of shite and drivel this sad little Labour apologist has come up with
http://blogs.mirror.co.uk/maguire/2009/04/spare-us-the-hypocrisy.html#comments
What a thoroughly cretinous moron with this particular line -
“6) And just what is the truth of Cameron’s alleged embarrassing complaint of a highly personal nature? I, like the drinkers in the Steamboat, Alum and Riverside, would like to know.
Now, what do you think…”
Red Rag started in
Number 10America.I see that Labour apologist ‘Toilets’ Maguires latest offering has gone down well -
http://blogs.mirror.co.uk/maguire/2009/04/spare-us-the-hypocrisy.html#comments
What is perhaps particularly telling about this moron is the final line, insinuating that there is a grain of truth in any of it, what a twat.
When I read about this so-called blog, I expected to read something a little different from the run-of-the-mill garbage that has been written on this subject.
Instead, I have been disappointed – but not surprised – to discover yet more fans of conspiracy theories rejoicing in coming together to cackle amongst themselves more fervently than the politicians that ‘run’ this once great country have ever done.
Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott
like I said TeaBald Pigshit
you can have a full refund if you so desire
It appears that you have pigshit in your eyes and ears, you blinkered idiot.
Stop it. You are just being silly Peter. We know it’s you. Don’t you have something better to do!
Brown is supposed to have not known about these emails and neither is watson which begs the question if they didnt know what mcbride was doing what else was he doing that they didnt know about and what are others doing that they dont know about.
In fact how much control does brown have of those around him if he didnt know? He is supposed to be in charge and while we realise that no one person can know everything surely the boss (brown) at the place of work in this case downing street should be fully aware of everything that is happening right under his nose. I mean my boss always catches me when im doing my online shopping and his office is on the next floor to mine. i swear those I.T. boffins tell him. doesnt brown have I.T. people who tell him whos surfing at argos and who is watching you tube. etc.
In every other job not knowing what your department is doing is no excuse. You should know and if you don’t then you are not up to the job.
Don’t they have someone there who monitors these things?
If not, why not, and what is stopping any of those ’special advisers’ sending out items of national security?
If they CAN, then Brown has no control, and if he doesn’t know what they send out then he has no control.
Which only leaves, he’s either not bothered or he’s lying like a pig in shit!
lying like a pig in shit, sums it up.
From Dolly at Labourlist.
“But in the end both myself and Damian McBride came to believe that such a site would be wrong.”
The man has appalling style and no understanding of grammatical construction. Bunny Cornes would have put him right, eh Guido?
“Both Damian McBride and I etc.” is the correct form, if Dolly wished to suggest he has some abilities, however scarce they are. He not only makes errors of judgement, he is an error of judgement, on the part of his parents, who allowed the fat little $hit to live.
to think that of the millions of little ‘tadpoles’ that fucker got through
“But in the end both myself and Damian McBride came together and believe that telling everyone about it would be wrong.” -
Better (?)
Not only can he not speak correctly, but he looks like he needs a bloody good wash too.
The secret service DEFINITELY have email surveillance systems in place reviewing all electronic traffic in and out of No10.
It would beggar belief these emails was not drawn to a Government Minister’s attention by those authorities.
Come on, of course they were. deniability old chap!
Well I certainly did MY best to draw attention away from Drowning Street, – didn’t I do well to organise that prison riot so quickly?
I hope that is remembered by the Faithful.
But now I have to do my expenses.
You get the troops to go after the protesters in Bangkok too? Bet you asked some mate in the White House to rescue that Captain from pirates as well. Well done sir and it so nearly worked! Knighthood in the offering me thinks.
http://dizzythinks.net/2009/04/missing-spin-doctor-can-you-help.html
HHAHHAH
How can UNITE be funding and cheer leading Red Rag? Are there no legal limits or controls on how the workers hard earned is squandered?
Has McBride actually left the ‘Civil’ Service or just left his job?
he left the civil service years ago, when he became an advisor to gordon brown, a political advisor, is a post that can only be held by a non civil servant, you cant have a politcal advisor, who is a civil servant, but here is the quircky thing, his wages are still paid by the government, not the political party, which is strange but true, and should probably not be allowed but tories also used the same system,
Gets the golden pension as well. Anyone with an ounce of sense and honour would have publicly fired him…..Sorry forgot we is talking about the one eyed snake.
Who was paying him 100k then?
Labour party or the unions?
You’re so wrong bimbo.
McVirgin was a Spad which is a civil servant working to slightly different rules but still paid by us and not allowed to do party politicking on taxpayer computers or in taxpayer time.
Go back to drippy’s place.
Pure comedy GOLD, ironically published on Saturday.
http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/features/Interview-Derek-Draper–Spin.5149215.jp
He is, he insists, a changed man in every way. The old Derek is no more”.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
That is fucking hilarious.
You think that is funny?
Pass me the sick bucket!
We have to live with this apology for journalism on a daily basis.
The Hootsmon and the Labour Party are tomorrow’s fish supper and the quicker the better.
That disgusting pile of dung says he is a Christian? How the fuck can he reconcile Christian beliefs with this latest obscenity? Give me that piano wire, I’ll go and do the job myself.
Contrary to what most people think there were elections in Stalin’s Russia.
Those who dared to stand and were not members of the Communist party were attacked personally by people like Mc Poison.
Every day Brown’s Labour Party looks more like Stalin’s Communist Party.
Now really! I’m shocked you would suggest such a thing! Stalin killed innocent people……as if a PM of this Country could do that and get away with it!
Stalin also killed Dr David Kelly.
Gordon Brown’s defence would be:
A) I know nothing
B) I do nothing
C) I was not there when whatever I don’t know about was not happening. -Please see A, above, for my position on this.
a cleaner in the home office spilt some domestos this morning, terrible eh, do we blame gordon brown for that also.
Is that the best you can come up with? try a bit harder eh? a cleaner and a civil servant/spinner are different animals altogether, the cleaner cleans up the shit and the spinner spreads it around.
The cleaner is answerable and gets their orders from housekeeping and the No10 spinners get their orders from the PM, see the difference there? The PM knew, you know he knew, we know he knew and he knows that we all know that he knew, how do you like them apples comrade?
Go away and consult the official line and then come back with a real excuse, perhaps Byrne can offer a few pointers!
You really are a prick malpaso if that’s the best you can come up with
That is either an extremely naive or an extremely manipulative analogy. McBride was directly within Brown’s power circle and responsible for strategy. The smear campaign was part of the strategy. And you think Brown didn’t know? Fool.
I didn’t think the Home Office had any cleaners left. Weren’t they all supposed to have been deported last year?
How pathetic, malpaso
Ah, but he’s the ‘know nothing, do anything’ Prime Minister.
As a micromanaging paranoid control freak I wish to make clear that even though I roam everywhere and pry into everything, I knew nuffin abart wot Dripping Arse or that fat bastard Brides something was up to.
Honest guv.
How does that sound ?
Old-Noo (neé Noo-Old) FatuoslyGrinningBoringLiars – WASTING YOUR MONEY on something POINTLESS NEAR YOU
OT
Stan’s blog has gone 404. Have the evil fuckers got to him?
HEY GUIDO DO YOU HAVE INFORMATION ON EXACTLY HOW MANY AND WHICH PEOPLE DOLLY DRAPER SENT OUT THE INITIAL EMAIL TO ASKING FOR GOSSIP TO PUT ON THE SAD RAG SITE. HE HAS ALREADY ADMITTED THAT SOME PEOPLE IGNORED HIM BUT MCBRIDE ANSWERED. WHO WERE THE ONES WHO IGNORED HIM.
Anonymous 9:58
What do you mean buy the secret service? What is their objective?
If they want to destroy Labour who do they support? They infiltrated and destroyed UKIP. I think they are controlled by the New World Order. Brown, Blair and Obama are puppets of the New World Order.
http://www.Freedom-Force.org
The best thing about all of this..is that Draper & all the other tramp’s cock sucking tosspots won’t be able to stay away!
Draper..the next time that you’re in Chorleh ( which is Chorley to any one else), give me a shout!
Perhaps we can have a bit of a friendly chat on Botany Bay Car Park??
Oh..& bring a friend………………………….
oops silly me…you don’t have any do you?
Draper said in the email that
‘These are absolutely totally brilliant Damian.’
then said
“I’ll think about timing and sort out the technology with Andrew this week so we can go asap”
In other words far from being shelved Draper was going to go ASAP!
He can’t even lie properly and the next gem….the start of the cover up?
“Do we want to tip off anyone about Red Rag having set up? Walters? I could do it and say LabouLlist had been sent the link anonymously”
Whi is walters by the way?
Hat tip Ian Dale
Draper lies so easily, it comes so naturally to him. His enthusiasm was as if these stories had been true and had originated from a neautral source.
Draper said in the email that
‘These are absolutely totally brilliant Damian.’
If he thinks smears about Osbornes wifes mental state is “absolutely totally brilliant Damian” what did he think of Kates performance at the planning consent meeting that concluded that Kate & Drapers extension was too big. Resulting in her screaming and bawling like a fishwife.
All these lovvy dovvy pictures in the weekend supplements with her and the tramp are enough to make you want to puke.
They deserve one another.
[...] blog. a national must read – With one scalp under his belt and top stories like this and this developing, those in the corridors of power will be nervous about who is next on his hit list.What [...]
who do you think leaked the emails to guido …
The BBC’s favourite overweight Liebour boy Stephen Nolan is sticking up for the fat one eyed phone thrower this morning. Anyone who has ever listened to this fat smelly ranting Irishman on a weekend knows just how he works.
Gordon has already said he knew nuffing so everyone should believe him He IS the Prime Minister you know you bastards.
I’ll have you for this Guido I mean it!
My email conversations with Gordon are sacred.
Sorry, did I say Gordon, that was an unintentional mistake. I really meant to say, Gorgon, yes that’s it, Gorgon. It’s an old nick name for a friend of mine and has nuffing to do with Gordon Brown I assure you. Now can we please talk about something else. Such as the Tories being really nasty for instance. Thank you.
If the Telegraph’s assertion today that Guido wanted 20K for the e-mails is correct, it makes Guido’s ‘moral high ground’ claim that he passed them on ‘for pleasure, not profit’ rather disingenuous. A pity, as otherwise he has played a blinder.
smear….. thought you would have figured that out by now.
The question is did the Times pay or the Nof the W.
Guido says not a penny.
Good enough for me.
It makes no difference at all. Either the story is true or it isn’t, money changing hands alters nothing.
And, you know, sophisticated people are capable of doing things for pleasure, and getting paid too.
Do you work for nothing?
20k? Measly buggers. Quite right to turn it down Guido. Story worth far more..
If true I bet the Telegraph wish they had bought the story.
£20k? – Sounds a bargain, considering the story’s been over the media all weekend.
Now fuck off.
PS. wheres Harman_Pride disappeared to?
just a thought could Brown be one, if not the only PM never to actually win a General Election himself?
Even with a handover mid term at least Major went on to win a GE himself
The way things are going he could also be the ?only? PM never to even fight an election …….
Alec Douglas-Home for starters…
And Sunny Jim Callaghan
Home fought the 1964 election, Callaghan the 1979 one, try harder.
239: You really believe the shit written in the Telegraph? The Telegraph doesn’t even make good toilet paper these days.
Agreed, no ‘wet strength’[. My finger went right through the last time I tried to make appropriate use of it.
I believe that’s called “shaking hands with the French”.
Where’s Charlie Whelan?
It amazes me how you lot believe everything you read and see on the television.
For God’s sake, try to read between the lines and make up your own minds. Conspiracy theories thought up BY idiots to cater FOR idiots.
Try reading the Daily Mail.
Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott
You mean The X Files aren’t based on fact?!? I’m heartbroken!
No Lord Titbrain, I’d rather believe Guido.
Only a few more days then it’s back to school for you and the worry of the SATS
How can it be a conspiracy theory when there’s proof? Would McBride have resigned without proof? You sir, are an idiot. Now do fuck off and leave the comments here to people with IQ’s larger than their shoe size.
maybe the honest angelic nadine would like to tell us who she pays £22,000 rent to from her allowance, is she in anyway related , to the rent collecter.
Do you mean that it’s ok to make up lies about her sexual life and leak it to the Press? If that’s what you mean, just say so.
People like you are part of the problem.
Nadine Dorries is not in Government. Nadine Dorries does not work for the Prime Minister. Nadine Dorries is not based at number 10.
She is the victim of this shower of shite. Where do you get off malpaso? Do you work for number 10? If you do you should go and have a good bath and scrub your conscience – if you have one.
You’re making a nasty habit of posting on this blog. Now stop it or we’ll take your toys away..Twat!
Malpaso…
her actions – just like all those Labour politicians in a similar situation…
“were within the rules”
If you believe that Nadine is acting dishonestly, then the Labour politicians are equally dishonest as well would you not agree? Hmmmm?
Malpaso? Mmmmmm, I wonder how you came up with that name.
Could it be from Valle de Malpaso on Lanzarote, the same island on which a certain numpty is on holiday?
Is that you Dolly?
Of course it is.
Under the circumstances, this new service seems to have arrived at either the right or the wrong moment, depending on one’s point of view!
New Tweetminister newsfeed service launched
Sort of ironic, really…
sort of boring as well! “MPs demand answers to Bristol’s ‘too high’ bus fares”
Perhaps bus fares will be highly relevant to some people who are lurking at this blog. After all, once the ministerial cars are no longer available to them, they’ll have to use public transport. The poor souls.
Where is Lord Mandelbum of Boy? Like McCavity, the One Eyed Stiff One – Mandikins is conspicuous by his absence. The Master of the Dark Arts is in there somewhere………along with all the other creeps who have suddenly gone very, very quiet.
As per. No coincidence that Mandy’s return signalled very nasty smear campaign – the attack on Osbourne where HE was the one who should have been roasted over the coals was a case in point. No coincidence either that one of Mandy’s favourite boys – Draper – is doing his bidding.
And you Fawkes-followers are bleating about Labour smears! I think this is what is most disgusting about this whole blogsite – the fake moral outrage.
Bless.
Sorry to rub you up the wrong way, Dell Boy.
We leave the bleating to the sheep
Pathetic attempt to slag off a whole group of people unknown to you using a tabloid-style alliterative label, and using the common tactic of attempting to claim moral high ground in order to make others appear inferior
Oh, Ricky, that tired old blog-joke. A dissenter? He can’t be a normal member of the public, not in this blog! It must be Dolly.
Fact is, you just smeared someone. But that’s all right from you, isn’t it?
Do you know something little Wilfred? The honest people on this Blog are not paid by the Government and do not run the country and do not work in the Number 10 smear factory.
We are not fake on here we have integrity and we can tell it like it is. We come on here to see the politicians held to account.
We do not come on here to slag off the followers of Guido’s writing. So if you don’t mind little Wilfred – FUCK OFF.
Time for some Shakespeare:
Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ears;
I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him;
The evil that men do lives after them,
The good is oft interred with their bones,
So let it be with Caesar … The noble Brutus
Hath told you Caesar was ambitious:
If it were so, it was a grievous fault,
And grievously hath Caesar answered it …
Here, under leave of Brutus and the rest,
(For Brutus is an honourable man;
So are they all; all honourable men)
Come I to speak in Caesar’s funeral …
He was my friend, faithful and just to me:
But Brutus says he was ambitious;
And Brutus is an honourable man….
He hath brought many captives home to Rome,
Whose ransoms did the general coffers fill:
Did this in Caesar seem ambitious?
When that the poor have cried, Caesar hath wept:
Ambition should be made of sterner stuff:
Yet Brutus says he was ambitious;
And Brutus is an honourable man.
You all did see that on the Lupercal
I thrice presented him a kingly crown,
Which he did thrice refuse: was this ambition?
Yet Brutus says he was ambitious;
And, sure, he is an honourable man.
I speak not to disprove what Brutus spoke,
But here I am to speak what I do know.
You all did love him once, not without cause:
What cause withholds you then to mourn for him?
O judgement! thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason…. Bear with me;
My heart is in the coffin there with Caesar,
And I must pause till it come back to me.
So that Shakespeare chapie for saw all this did he? Will he start a blog of his own?
So that’s it then, it all started here in Stratford on Avon
What a load of horse-wank
Have you ever actually SEEN a horse have a wank?
Enjoy…
I bet you help out with that you effing wacko nut job
Somebody has to do it…
Oh dear,Oh dear,Oh dear, just another nail in the coffin for this buffoon of a PM
Have a bit of a think about how you would attack this site if you were Mandy. First, you wouldn’t think it that important – a few hundred people at best – not going to swing any election. But the then you do want to stop it spreading. So you say over and over that the Tories do it too. And then you say that sites like this are only for geeks. And then you get people to post juvenile comments in the hope that it makes the whole site look puerile. On the other hand, you probably don’t mind McBride and Draper being on the griddle, the important thing being that they aren’t you. What matters is hoisting Brown out of the mire. I expect Watson already has your fingers in his brain.
You’re right about the numbers, not only of the posters but also the total readership of this blog. This lot wouldn’t be able to swing a seat in a marginal council ward. Guido has certainly pulled off a coup that has made it into the MSM, which is the only way to guarantee an effect on the wider electorate. But you’re mistaken if you think it’s only the malpaso-type juvenilia that makes the site look puerile. Virtually all the comments do, apart from the odd one that attempts to do something more interesting than simply hurl abuse. A quick perusal of this site by an outsider (me, for example) shows a lot of bullying, a fear of any off-message (ie non-Fawkesian) comment, and a desire to shut down any dissent from the “party” line. So the site itself is not persuasive or election-winning. I think the wider public probably has mixed feelings about this McBride issue. Disgust with McBride, certainly (I share this), but also an uneasy feeling that the blogs, the Tories and a lot of the MSM have been smearing and hurling personal insults at Brown and other Labour politicians for so long now that the whole currency of political debate has been debased.
Nice to see “Wilfred” apologising for the years of spin, internal feuding, vile personal attacks, good day for bad news, personalised attacks, WMD, cash for honours, dodgy ministers, of the most specious kind….all developed into a fine art by Bower, McBride, Blair, Campbell, Brown, BBC, Mandelson et al…..
Don’t forget to apologise for these specious creeps. Just attack those who caught them at it.
We are as mad as hell and we won’t take it any more. And we have every right. Sorry if we have upset your hopes for a One Party State.
Sorry to burst your bubble Wilfred but i can tell you the ‘currency of political debate’ has been worthless for sometime.
Fear of being off message is the reason we are here.
Dont believe me. Try getting a promotion or nay a job in the public sector and dare to have an opinion which does not conform.
I myself am fed up with being scared to speak my mind and having a sanctimonius pratt like you come on to here, the last refuge of free speech and trying to say we are the problem just takes the biscuit.
I hope Nadine has no skeletons in her cupboard as she is probably now the main target for many investigative journalists.
I thought that politicians were guided by people in media? This will come back and bite the Tories on the ass!
you are probably right Peem, and that’s the problem we have with investigative journo’s, they have a habit of investigating the wrong people, Nadine is the aggrieved here but will be investigated and treated harsher than both mc bride and draper, also no journo’s appear to be investigating what is going on in No10 they appear to have accepted No10 statement. i just dont understand if brown did not know surely he would want to know as well whats going on.
P.s prime example, mandleson, Osbourne and the russian oligog?person.
Osbourne was absolutley mullard by the press especially BBC’s robinson. when the real story for a reputable journalist should have been mandleson’s relationship, decisions (alluminium) he actually stayed on yatch etc.
Osbourne was a non story, he was on holiday with family, he was invited by so called chum rothschild onto yatch, he looked at possible donation from said oligog, decided it was not viable, end of. you’d have thought he was an absolute shysta,the way the media went on. if there is one thing we can be sure of is that the Conservatives will have to have integrity, honor, be truthful etc because you can be damn sure that MSM will be watching them very closely, one step out of line they will be all over them.
Has anyone asked Cameron, Osborne, Dorries et al how they feel about Guido putting the smears firmly in the public domain?
tisfedup is upest that “Nadine” is in the spotlight, but who put her there?
Collateral damage, I suppose would be Guido’s excuse. Let the ends justify the means. Get the Labour b’stards, even if it means converting McBride’s unrealised thought crime into hard published fact.
There’s a moral high ground somewhere, but this blog isn’t anywhere near it.
Peem. Get it right. The BBC will start sniffing around TORIES under orders from the barking man one eyed mentally retarded phone throwing tartan skirt wearing wanker in Downing Street.
All the BBC want to do with this current story is bury it.
McBride is 35 years of age!!!!!!!!!!!!! I want to see his birth certificate. He must have had a hard life.
drink
Me too. He looks fucking older than me
Nadine, on Sky, is going as close as she can, without any hard evidence, that Brown is behind the smear. Go on NADINE, sink in your teeth and dont let go!
Gordon Brown is our own British Nixon – without the charisma!
Again, there is absolutely no suggestion that the Prime Minister knew about any of this.
Gordon Brown is our own British Nixon – without the charisma!
Watson, Mandelson, Whelan, Draper, McBride, Campbell and McDoomed Broon, plus Byrne are all in this together and the sooner they cough up and come clean and apologise, the better it will be for all in politics.
Most people are sick to death of these Labour jokers.
They should stop wasting taxpayers money on special smears and unelected spinners. Also, if the Tories don’t grapple with this role of political adviser paid for by the taxpayer to smear opposition, then they’ll have no argument either when in office themselves. So instead of Cammers asking for a personal apology, he should be questioning the very existence of these people in political life.
Can I have my money back please.
Obama’s campaign, Tomlinson and Bhutto’s death captured on cell phone, Hannan’s lambaste and now Guido’s expose – it is incredible how so many governments are behind the pack in adjusting to the power of the Information Age. Attempts to control it via legislation will fail because in true democracies, the electorate will always determine what it is they want to know – hence the growth of Guido’s legitimacy at the expense of New Labour. Brown and Co. have failed to adapt and are now in terminal decline – the dream is over and similar to my shabby Fiat, will fail to make it to its full life expectancy. I hope my spelling is okay despite only attending the local comprehensive?
They can’t ban the Internet because, despite the best efforts of the EUSSR, America still owns it. They’ll try to legislate and tax it out of existence, though – rules for this, licence fees and VAT for that, powers of search of homes and seizure of computers for something else, eg evasion of licence fees – and then use what’s left for propaganda.
And don’t worry about spelling. People who need to bully others over their spelling and grammar on a rapid-fire blog are just shooting the messenger because they don’t have an answer to their point.
‘Can’t ban the internet’
Tell that one to the Aussies mate cos if they don’t like the site your visiting such as wikileaks they block it to all of their citizens
Brown’s premiership is working out just like in my book “Boom and Bust”. Get a free copy from me at nigel_bowker_917@hotmail.com
343: “…P.s prime example, mandleson, Osbourne and the russian oligog?person.
Osbourne was absolutley mullard by the press especially BBC’s robinson. when the real story for a reputable journalist should have been mandleson’s relationship, decisions (alluminium) he actually stayed on yatch etc….”
Yes but Prick Robinson openly admitted on his own blog that the BBC didn’t want to report the Mandelson story.
Why the Tories didn’t pick up on this when the blogs did I don’t know.
No, the story was that Osborne tried stirring over Mandelsons holiday when he was also at the same place. That is why Osborne got mullard. Journos love a grubby story but hate it when they feel misled by the source.
So how come lawyers are pushing all over the Beeb at the moment if this was just a juvenile prank? Both Beeb breakfast and 5-live have been hit by No10 ambulance chasers…oh and Dolly’s as well!
Happy Birthday Mr Fawkes
Guido can you shed some light on this ? Derek Draper publicly states that he is a BACP (british association for counselling and psychotherapy) member, and they have a very strict code of ethics. I’d like to know how he reconciles his public political malfeasance in setting up Redrag with his private BACP membership. It doesn’t seem very ethical to me, I wonder of he has an explanation.
So window-lickers, what’s happening? Guido been eating a McBridie?
How utterly, utterly…
Fucking delicious!
“utterly, utterly” is a bit English for you isn’t it, fellow window-licker? Shouldn’t it be “Airr, utterly, utterly . . .”
Dear christ, I’ve got a crazy mash-eater stalking me.
This is not at all…
Fucking delicious!
Just realised people are adding their websites to comments. So here’s mine.
I haven’t had time to add any more for a while, but I’m thinking of reviving the blog in the run up to the next election – if somebody will read it??? No point in talking to an empty room…
Isn’t that what Brown is doing, increasingly, in his bedsit bunker?
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Sorry if this has been mentioned, but what think you of this Guido:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/5145640/How-the-Labour-smear-email-story-unfolded.html
How Brown’s ministers can claim he is innocent and keep a straight face is beyond me. You don’t hire a student activist thug like McBride if you want genuine balanced advice and wisdom – you hire him as an enforcer and one-man dirty tricks department.
Well said. I agree.
Derek Draper? Shirley Bassey says it all:
“If there’s a wrong way to say it,
and a wrong way to play it.
Nobody does it like me!
“If there’s a wrong way to do it,
A right way to screw it up!
Nobody does it like me!
“I’ve got a big loud mouth,
I’m always talking much too free.
If you go for tact and manners,
better stay away from me!
“If there’s a wrong way to keep it cool,
a right way to be a fool,
Nobody does it like me!
“If there’s a wrong bell I ring it.
A wrong note I sing it!
Nobody does it like me!
“If there’s a problem I duck it.
I don’t solve it I just muck it up!
Nobody does it like me!”
So much for Draper’s pathetic ‘hacking’ explanation of how the emails came into the public domain.
Notice some of the papers are still following Draper’s hacking lie, and trying to make the affair into a matter of ‘national security’ – that last refuge of the New Labour scoundrel.
Hang on chaps, isn’t trying to “smear” someone (Brown) with a story (this story) that hasn’t been proven to directly involve them, in order to tarnish their reputation a bit hypocritical given the cause of the “scandal”?
I DEMAND AN INQUIRY! and lunch!
Lunch first then an inquiry!
No. This is not a “smear”. It is about the way an unelected Prime Minister directs party political strategy involving real smears whilst the country is in the throes of a recession which he is largely responsible for.
In point of fact if the journalists in this country had pursued that and other stories about corruption at the heart of Brown’s regime instead of the bogus and deflecting smears his regime was churning out we might not be in the mess we are in.
This is a watershed. Do you want a government of lies and propaganda serving only the Labour party or a government of truth and integrity serving the people?
I don’t believe the latter is ever possible, a government of “truth” will only ever serve the wishes of some people since it would be impossible to appease everybody – hence the reason political parties exist.
I agree with your point, why is so much attention being diverted towards this then by the Conservative party? I actually quite like Cameron and think he comes across as a good guy but I think it lacks class to have to “demand” an apology and to create such a stir over negativity. I would prefer to see political effort used to promote positive changes he feels the Conservative party could make that would have avoided the current situation and that will bring the country out stronger.
Better that than the continual nonsense and value-less bickering politicians are consuming tax payer money to do these days!
“Unelected Prime Minister”?
Brown is the leader of the majority party in Parliament and was asked by the queen to form a government. No PM is elected like you seem to think
Learn something about the country you live in before making an idiot of yourself on bloggs
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Just a question – were these e-mails obtained by the use of a Freedom of Information request to 10 Downing Street?
How many smears and lies has this website published in the last 5 years?
Oh yes, it’s OK, when it’s coming from Tory HQ.
I don’t get how many stupid people can exist. Eton Education for you I guess.
How many leaks and smears have we seen on the Home Secretary in only the last 6 months.
It seems David, and Viscount Osborne, get a bit itchy when the leaks start forming around them. And sorry, for the use of the word itchy David. Not intended as a pun
woke up late today eh draperbot?
Eh! were’nt these leaks actually true……and weren’t McPoison & Dollies a pack of lies or don’t nu labour know the difference……….. don’t tell me I already know the answer to that ……… NO
Hahahahahahahah
Read a Dailly Mail article calling the “red rag” as a “vile, disgusting idea for a web site. While calling Mr. Fawkes a respinsible, educated blogger.
Oh yes, the right wing Mail. the right wing fakes, are probably on the same pay roll
Was one of jaqui Smiths two washing machines a ‘Respinsible’ type?
Very handy for washing sperm covered scatter cushions.
Who are they actually planning on suing?
The MP affair, and David Cameron’s todger problems weren’t even broken by those two orons. And I’ve seen them on many other web sites previously.
And in any case, it’s not even viable to sue someone for talking about this sort of thing in pivate. It only becomes an area for the courts if these people make it public. They didn’t. Mr Fawke’s made it public. And then the Sun Newspaper, who he sold the sotirs to.
SO the only people suable is Mr. Fawkes, and whoever backs him. Which is ironivally Tory HQ.
So good luck suing themselves
Yes, once the Easter madness has subsided people will take a long hard look at this Fawkes fellow and what he has done.
By taking McBride’s disgusting but abandoned thought crime and turning it into a published fact in the public domain, he has carelessly put his heroes Cameron, Osborne and Dorries under the spotlight.
The trio would probably be able to sue Fawkes for actually publicising the sewage, even if the sewage didn’t orginate with him. But that would only intensify the scrutiny.
I suppose Fawkes will use the “collateral damage” argument – you can hurt anyone in the process of claiming a scalp, especially one you’ve obsessed about for so long. The end justifies the means. Does he care whether journos now start sniffing around Dorries and the “gay MP”, whoever that is?
Hardly a thought crime if it was put in writing, published in an email and transmitted via internet to third parties. I think you are a TWAT little Wilfred. That is not a thought crime as I have just published it.
“two orons”?
“in pivate”?
“sotirs”?
“ironvally”?
Please try to control your anger and wipe the foam of spittle from your screen old chap. You might find your spelling improves.
Oh dear oh dear oh dear, Rolex. Resorting to attacking spelling?
Heru You need to take a lesson in the Law of Libel……….. they can & should be sued
draper troll= unable to spell.
What Heru is saying goes back to my question about the e-mails and the FOI request. Heru is following the government line – it was a private matter. It was not a private conversation, not when it is done on a government machine in the heart of government. It was not private, not if the e-mails were within the Freedom of Information Act.
That is why my FOI question is important. If the e-mails were released under FOI rules then it was not the private conversation Heru and other NuLabour spinners would like us to believe.
Just because you’re forced to release an email under FOI doesn’t make the email public. It was private when it was written. The fact is that only Fawkes has put it into the public domain.
0/10
Use Google – Section 2, FOI Act, Public Interest Test. I say again PUBLIC interest.
“It was private when it was written”
An irrelevant argument.
If you have evidence that a criminal activity is about to take place, does the fact that the evidence is contained in a private email mean that you aren’t allowed to speak up or tell anyone about it?
Basically, Guido has made the Alastair Cambell strategic error – he has (or will soon) become the story instead of the anonymous shadowy instigator.
By moving out of the shadows to sit on TV sofas arguing the toss with the likes of Draper on the Daily Politics, he has lost his mystique and become just another commentator with an obsession.
A word of advice to Guido – the viewers didn’t like it when you said “I hate all politicians.” You need a good spin doctor now.
But the Public Do hate all politicians Numbnuts only a politician could write and believe the shit you do.
How strange. The dear old Grauniad are not allow any comments on this story. Why? Is it because they think they already know what readers will say?
to Bill d’Sarse below: you could try that argument in a court of law, but I think the counter-argument would be that Guido didn’t need to actually publicise the smears themselves. If the public interest was what he really cared about, he would have kept the details secret.
Well Wilfred clearly you’ve never heard of Justice Eady cos he doesn’t agree with you
Copper with a baton. By all means tell the police if you think it’s a crime (which this isn’t). But don’t spread the smears all over the press.
Who is Nadine Dorries. I have never heard of her. She is so low profile that I haven’t even seen her name related to any of the expenses stories !
This from the blog which routinely mentions non-existent photos of Gordon Brown wearing a nappy on a rocking-horse…
Live by the smear…
“This from the blog which routinely mentions non-existent photos of Gordon Brown …”
Confident?
Are you sure ?
Shoot the bastards!
At least very nearly all of them.
The more desperate Labour become the nastier they get. Their behaviour in Scotland since they lost power to the S.N.P. is nothing less than outrageous. They lost the election but are still in denial and labour smears and spin are what we in Scotland have come to expect. Ex labour leader Jack McConnell’s spanish holiday with Kirsty Wark and families might have seemed innocent enough until you watched her snarling interview with Alex Salmond [Brown won't even talk to him] Nulab.b.c . Unfortunately labour can still rely on the block vote from west of Scotland cos they send the Giros!
One of the disappointments in all this is realising there will NOT be a Nadine ‘One Night In..’ Dorries sex tape leaked onto the internet…
Come along now, Nadine, might as well be drowned in deep water as shallow..
I remember reading one of those guess who pieces in one of the papers a few months ago where it said which female Tory MP was embarrassed after leaving her sex aid in a hotel room, Conservative office insisted it was a massager.
This was printed a few months ago, so I believe Nadine Dorries is correct that the smears had already hit the press.
What I think is wonderful is that Nadine realises that having been a bit ‘mouthy’ in the past, and talked herself out of a job on the ‘front bench’, that she has absolutely nothing to lose by ‘going large’ on this now – it might even get her on the junior ministerial ladder from a grateful David Cameron if it puts Gordon even deeper in the treacle…
Oopss – she’s on Breakfast as we speak….
Derek Draper may be a lot of things, but he has my undying admiration, if only for being married to Kate Garroway. I would love to give her one!
On his website Derek Draper writes: If you want to be sent information relating to wellbeing and psychotherapy you can sign up at diy-therapy…
‘Wellbeing’ that’s a joke. Surely Psychologists have to be registered with some organisation? He should be struck off.
The only way anybody will remember this irrelevant episode is if the allegations turn out to be true.
Don’t you guys remember BA paying Branson after they smeared him? Michael Howard hiring Textor the Australian who payed out after admitting he’d smeared Labour? Michael Portillo aplogising after his aides smeared Duncan Smith’s war record?
The Zinoviev letter?
Gideon (he picked “George” out of a hat) Osborne called Brown “autistic”, refused to pair with him, so maybe they’re just not suited – the 18th Baronet and the methodist. But come on, calm down. Read a bit more.
What is really funny is Gordon’s move from “G20 leader of the world “to gutter snipe in one move , without passing “GO” or collecting £200.
Is Mc Bride working for the Tories, you could make it up . ?
So McBride didn’t make the stuff up then? The stories were doing the rounds anyway, like a lot of other stories do the rounds for years with no-one daring to publish them. (Anyone remember the ones in the early 1990s about Portillo and Lilley?) And presumably some of those stories are pure nonsense, and others rooted in a truth.
But McBride is, apparently, just the gimp who wrote them down (doing on a government email, which was clearly not either smart or acceptable).
Surely the slanderer is the one who brings them into the public domain?
Cherie adopts Mr Humphrey’s slogan:
“I’m free” (as in available, not at no cost)
So Nadine Dorries was contacted by the press last year about the email slurring her. Why then is it only now that she has become righteously indignant and is apparently losing sleep? Why didn’t she go public and demand an inquiry then?
Couldn’t have anything to do with Labour closing the gap in the polls after the G20 could it.
And just one other thing, anyone remember the treatment Mo Mowam got from the press and Tory MP’s before the 97 election?
Or the photoshopped pictures of Prescott
derek draper, fudge packing, turd countersinking,brown lipping c***t fuck off out of politics and that applies to all your scum sucking labour party fuckwits as well
we need a fucking revolution in this country, why do we put up with these parasitic bastards, they remind me of all those rat faced pikey inbreds exterminate the fucking lot