April 13th, 2009

+++ Draper Lunched Brown Week After Setting Up “Red Rag” +++

Derek Draper’s “Red Rag” anonymous smear site was registered on November 4, 2008 according to publicly available records.  Draper had lunch at Chequers with Gordon Brown on Sunday 16, November 2008.

Guardian Front PageBrown recalled Draper to aid the  Labour Party, Draper boasted to many people that he was helping Gordon Brown.  Did he not discuss with Brown what he was doing for him?  Was Damian McBride also at the same Chequers lunch? 

Are we supposed to believe that the subject of Draper’s online battle plans was never discussed with the PM?


203 Comments

  1. 1
    Anonymous says:

    Smoking gun?

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      reg511 says:

      The Telegraph quotes McBride: ‘I did not want these stories in the public domain – it is because guido Fawkes has put them there, and I am sickened that he has done so.’
      Not sorry for te contents!!

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        Hit the SEND button says:

        These idiots still believe that they never published this material! A personal, non-sanctioned email must be regarded as a broadcast communication if involves an employer’s (taxpayer’s) system. Who paid the Blackberry bill, Damien?

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    • 77
      Kim says:

      Guido, my hats off to you. It is absolutely disgusting how the msm didn’t pick this
      up when you first exposed this and then after the exposure they tried to tone it
      down like it was just a disagreement. I think there was another way you could have gone about this, which would have had serious repercussions for them for years to come- especially Draper. E-mail me and I will tell fill you in on the details

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    • 93
      Anonymous says:

      McBust-us-all’s scalp next?
      (Claps)

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      L Maguire says:

      Tom Watson says that he did not know about any emails, so we are led to beleive that Watson is sitting next to McBride in the Downing Street office, it has been said that he is a keen user of the internet and he did not look at the Guido site or discuss anything with Mc Bride relating to the upheavel in the office!!!

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    • 118
      Dale says:

      Smoking Gun – two words that speak 1000.

      Does anyone else think that Gordon Brown is mad, I honestly think he’s mad what else explains what he’s doing to this country?

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      • 139
        Anonymous says:

        He is mad, and WE are mad to vote for his pathetic party! Get the Labour sleazy beggars out a.s.a.p. and then watch them scrabbling around, trying to find another trough to put their snouts in!

        Ventricular

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    • 131
      talwin says:

      Surely, something (written or spoken) is ‘published’ the moment it is promulgated in any way by the originator.

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    • 154
      Your Supreme Leader says:

      I have posted this elsewhere on this foul site, which I have already set wheels in motion to ban.

      I have no time to apologise for that which I had no knowledge. I’m far to busy attending to global problems that require global solutions – which only I can formulate.

      For instance, the financial crisis. As the banks refuse to lend, I’ve been redistributing the wealth to the deserving. Those with only two, three or four homes who have to spend working hours away from their families. Like poor Jacqui Smith who is forced to live life away from her husband in a small bedroom at her sister’s.

      Then there is the Green Agenda. I’m making an example by recycling green waste through eating my snot.

      Unemployment is also high on the agenda. I’ve set the example by giving jobs to those who otherwise would be unemployable – Ministers and others who sit and listen to my monologues around the Cabinet table. Let’s not forget that nice Peter Mandelson either.

      So be gone with you. I have very important work to complete and, I’m told, little time to finish it. (Though I am working on that one as well.)

      Your Supreme Leader,
      Gordon of Scotland

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      • 171
        Anonymous says:

        Obvious Fake – you clearly mean “Gordon of Britain (Fuck Scotland)”.

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      • 172
        Your Supreme Leader says:

        Aha Anonymous, your anonymity is no more. The grand surviellance society I’ve created knows who you are and where you live. Even what you ate for breakfast.

        Your comment, “Gordon of Britain (Fuck Scotland)” is puerile and inaccurate. I fuck the whole UK, not just Scotland – sorry, I mean serve the whole UK.

        Your Supreme Leader,
        Gordon of Scotland

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    • 157
      It doesn't add up... says:

      Signal
      Passed
      At
      Draper

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    • 180
      Nil says:

      Damian McBride is a looks like a peeled raw sausage. He is crude and uncivilised. I hope Arsenal cancels his membership. May the bloggers can start a campaign to remove him

      He has brought shame upon the Gooners

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    • 200
      cjka says:

      Well, folks, with the return of Mandelson came the frequenters of his dark back-stairs passages. The McBride-Draper connection is simply Mandy getting his feet under the table and all perfectly deniable – look under the table, there’s only McBride, Draper etc. etc.

      Expect more – and worse: Mandelson’s got access to vast stores of restricted info – including the Euro-Commission’s.

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  2. 2
    Cassandra King says:

    Its funny how the BBC knew from the start that McMental knew nothing about anything and was completely innocent of everything, funny that eh? are the BBC such brilliant investigators that they can find the answers so quicky?
    The BBC keep repeating that ‘its clear that Brown knew nothing’ huh? how the fuck do they know that, has all thise billions of pounds in enforced taxation bought them a crystal ball?

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      SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL GUNSHOP says:

      I thought exactly the same thing as they peddaled their lies at 10 pm last night.

      We need to know who was at that lunch and hopefully we can nail it to the snotgobbler and remove him before he sinks UK PLC totally.

      Guido top work, BE CAREFUL AND DONT WALK IN THE WOODS WE DONT WANT ANOTHER DR DAVID KELLY (RIP)

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      • 9
        reg511 says:

        It is your civi duty to ensure all cildren in your household see the utube snotgobbling evidence

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      • 16
        Minekiller says:

        I agree with Cassandra, the BBC continue to be exposed as the voice of Labour. The coup Guido has pulled off over this amazing weekend in UK politics has a major sub-theme, which is the demonstration to the UK public how subdued and subservient the UK MSM has become as a result of NuLaour manipulation of favour since 1997, Journos are simply to scared to speak out or to tell the truth for fear of being expelled from the magic circle. So for the last few years we sit ‘V’ like on the couch or reading the news papers and knowing that much of what we read was and is now simply rehashed spin and propaganda from NuLabour.

        But this smear incident is an all time low, just when you thought it couldn’t get any worse – the land of ‘you couldn’t make this up’ does in fact come up with another whopper. From Eccelstone – Cheriegate – Iraq – cash for honours – postal vote rigging – uncontrolled immigration – economic incompetence- mortgage frauds – to the most recent expense frauds and every useless failed policy initiative and utter waste of taxpayers money in between….it just keeps on coming….and yet Brown and his gangsters are still in government.

        If this had have been a Tory administration then the BBC and other MSM would have been howling from the rooftops. But of course as we know, it isn’t only standards in political life that have descended to the gutter, but those in journalism have followed them down there.

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      • 79
        ned says:

        So Brown didn’t know and thats fact because he said
        so and of corse Brown never lies. After all we are best
        placed to withstand the economic downturn, we will hold
        a referendum on Europe. British jobs for british workers,
        We wont need an enquiey if brownsays something it must
        be true. Does BBC stand for Browns Bullshit Club?

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    • 10
      Julian says:

      Umm, but isn’t it clear to all of us that Brown clearly knows nothing, nothing at all? from what we see the only company making money now in the UK is Nokia, given the apparent rate that Brown gets through them.

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      • 60

        It has been successfully suppressed, the question of how, if there were other addressees, and including Draper, they did not quash the messages immediately. They were all guilty for letting the matter fester, and all power to Guido’s lance into the boil. Let’s get at some of the other guilty parties.

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    • 18
      Peter Grimes says:

      Al-JaBeeba’s latest (but still miles behind the curve) online report calls Guido’s blog “anti-politics” rather than ‘Tory’ this morning.

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    • 44
      Cassandra King says:

      STOP PRESS:

      ALAN JOHNSON HAS JUST ADMITTED THAT GORDON BROWN WAS INVOLVED IN SPINNING AGAINST HIS ENEMIES!

      The twat was trying to defend his leader and ended up outing him for the grubby mainpulator he is!

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    • 63
      Fiona (trying not to chuckle) Phillips says:

      Remember … ITV has a top reporter on the inside for this story.

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    • 74
      Elric says:

      I must admit the acceptance by the BBC that Brown new nothing when conducting interviews is rather odd.

      Also of note is Nick Robinsons Blog is now so out of date it confirms its irrelavance.

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    • 94
      Anonymous says:

      No, they have a hotline to God(-awful McRuin)

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    • 133

      Cassandra, huge organisations like the BBC are not homogeneous entities. As with the Bank of England, the CIA, MI5 etc, there are rogue elements and turf wars on every corridor.

      At the Beeb, crucial senior editorial offices (but by no means all) are influenced by the Common Purpose/DVD Dachau placepeople. These people are there to protect and prosecute the Brown agenda. Indeed, much of the BBC is set up to act as the intelligence propaganda arm of The Crown. And Gordon Brown is a Crown minion. He is also a British intelligence asset.

      On Sunday 8th March 2009, Jonathan Maitland of BBC 5 Live broadcast an investigation into Common Purpose. Maitland was working with a non-Common Purpose editorial team. However, Common Purpose editorial influences higher in the BBC hierarchy were able to frustrate the investigation. The indications are that these influences were active within the offices of Helen Boaden (Director of BBC News) and Fran Unsworth (Head of BBC News Gathering). Whether Boaden and Unsworth, themselves, are British (or German) intelligence assets, I do not know. But it would be curious if they were not.

      Common Purpose has published a note about the Maitland programme. It can be found here.

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      • 153
        Aberdeen Angus McDayie says:

        Perhaps the BBC knows best of all that McJeckyllandhyde is the mad Nokiaman and will stone them with mobile phones!

        The Blaggers’ Blagueurs Claque has only ever been an establishment propaganda and control tool. Its hegemonic nature is self-evident when compared to the broadcasting model of the Netherlands. Even in the late ’60s all face-to-face TV interviews were pre-scripted, as Keith Waterhouse wrote recently, which is why they all now appear so wooden. Yet somehow a few people like Adam Curtis are allowed to make films which lift the veil on how social manipulation is performed.

        The only thing to add is it has been rumoured that McHyde is subject to blackmail material in the hands of MI5. Whether it is of the nature discussed in this blog is moot – perhaps it is stronger stuff. At any rate, McHyde gives the impression that he is so quick to obey orders that he cannot afford to be embarrassed when people note the spin, hyporcrisy, and volte-faces.

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    • 140
      Anonymous says:

      Come on now – you KNOW the B.B.C. stands for BROWN BROADCASTING CORPORATION and we all pay for the privilege of their biased views.

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    • 181
      Nil says:

      Brown is a half blind fuck. May be he turned a half a blind eye

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    • 183
      Jacqui five bellies says:

      The BBC were probably on the phone all weekend to McNokia. Of course Lady Marr boy and Prick Robinson were off resting their tiny brains so they had to rely on the awful Radio 5 (god that is a toilet of a radio station does Dolly Draper run it?) to spread the story that Gordon knew nothing and then the awful fat jock bitch Laura Huntszberg or whatever her name is on BBC 1 who KEPT spouting Gordon knew nothing.

      How? The fat one eyed tartan skirt wearing phone lobber hasn’t shown his one eyed fat face in public for days. I want to see him answer a direct question

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    • 189
      thick as thieves says:

      gordon brown is a fat lying nonce.

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  3. 3
    Alan Black says:

    Broon has a Scottish university beer bar mentality, a cheerleader for rugger types in college scarves drinking pints of piss, all for hoorays. His sap smear test is likely to be positive.

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  4. 4
    Grimly Fiendish says:

    Gordon is up to his gonads in this filth, him and his team of hand-picked turds.

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  5. 5
    fidothedog says:

    Brown will be crying his eye out before the day is done.

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  6. 7

    Yes and it stinks.

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  7. 8
    cynic says:

    I see more FOIs coming!!!!

    Cameron can skewer him on this.

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  8. 11

    Let me introduce you to the Media Standards Trust which you may not have heard of.

    The MST will be going mental over this story – they want to find a way to silence Guido and others of his ilk.

    You need to keep an eye on the Media Standards Trust.

    More about the MST here: http://www.stopcp.com/cpmedia.php

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  9. 12
    cynic says:

    The other issue is who funded red rag. We now know this site was in effect controlled by Labour and used as its mouthpiece to campaign against Conservatives collectively and individually. As such its potentially registrable as a donation.

    Was it registered? Who by? Why was a senior official in Unite copied in on the emails? Did they fund the site? If so, is running a smear site spreading lies and false stories a legitimate use of Union funds?

    Also what records was McBride keeping on his IT system at No 10. This is a Cabinet Office system but what personal bile and records was he keeping there. He was clearly very careless. That may now be susceptible to FOI as well. Bet he also didn’t register it with the Information Commissioner.

    This will run and run.

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    • 28
      Anonymous says:

      Very good point about Red Rag funding. Hadn’t thought of that. If I were a Union member I’d be pissed off if I found they were spending funds on something like this.

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  10. 13
    Peter says:

    ‘The BBC keep repeating that ‘its clear that Brown knew nothing’’.

    And, as far as I am concerned, they can continue enhancing that narrative, adding ‘knows nothing’ and ‘will know nothing’. Serves two purposes: first up, even the dimmest long-life bulb in the national chandelier might wonder what the head of the GOAT-herd is for. Second, even their cheerleaders might start to question how Aunty ‘knows’ what isn’t true before anything has emerged from the bunker (and allow the likes of Stephen Pound to interpret that in ways only uniquely-funded entities can), whilst selling their version of news as objective (what next on BBC ‘news’ today? Perhaps a ‘personal view’ from a surprisingly regularly invited Kevin Maguire – needs a bit of help on his Mirror blog currently, so a flit to a more friendly group think comfort zone might be needed – maybe to cast about some plausibly deniable tittle tattle ‘cos he’s a ‘serious journalist’?) commentary.

    Sgt. Shultz was a lesson-learning, getting on with his job, firm hand on the tiller master compared to Dear Leader.

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    • 132
      talwin says:

      It’s not only about what Brown knew, it’s about the culture created, permitted (encouraged?) by the head honcho. And the culture around Brown has stunk for years.

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    • 202
      Sambo says:

      Stephen Pound is a snot-gobbling, headline grabbing twat.

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  11. 14
    Peter Grimes says:

    Let us hope that Cameron can show the balls which he has so conspicuously lacked until now.

    Great story evolving, Guido, but my missus will kill you if she can get her hands on you because of the time I’m spending at the computer! Bloody good job it has been a (mostly) wet Easter or she would have had me in the garden (working)!

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  12. 15
    BBC says:

    On BBC Radio4 ‘Today’ at 7.10am Derek Scott (Blair’s economic adviser and a clean skin) called for the Augean stables around Brown to be cleaned. Pressed by Jim Naughtie, he said he meant sackings – including Ministers.

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    • 41
      Peter Grimes says:

      Well as a Blairite, he would, wouldn’t he?

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      • 48
        eagerbeaver says:

        Yes but if the whole TB/GB thing flares up in public again it could be very entertaining for those who wish Labour ill.

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    • 104
      Anonymous says:

      Mind you on the 8.10 slot MAC (please include all Scotch tribal denominations)Naughtie got Alan Johnson to confirm that the filth campaign was totally unacceptable at any level of government and to be decried by all No 10 appratchiks.

      His words can be usefully held against Liebour as the mess continues.

      Draper has dug himself a deep hole on hundreds of media outlets over the weekend sufficient to crucify him and anyone within 10 feet of the unwashed git, at No 10 .

      MACBustard’s scalp is next.

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      • 105
        Anonymous says:

        PS Before the pedents get going, “Scotch” and derivatives are used advisedly, it windups those Scottish marxist mafia who have so comprehensively stuffed the country.

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      • 106
        Anonymous says:

        should be “pedants”

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  13. 17
    Anonymous says:

    This episode creates a strong wrenching smell that is the hallmark of GB for the past decade. Lies, spin and then the claim that it has nothing to do with him. What a coward. The countries unelected PM who will be rightly thrown out of office at the next general election. New Labour have taken leadership of our country into the gutter. We need an Obama style renewal along with the clear strategic thinking of the Thatcher years to rebuild the shattered fabric of our country.

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    • 51
      Anonymous says:

      Coward, indeed. I see a fair few comments suggesting Dave lacks balls, but Brown hasn’t even had the courage to go to the electorate – even after all the little tweaks have been applied to the system to automatically make the Tories the underdogs.

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      • 82
        Twizzle says:

        But aren’t you thankful he didn’t have the balls to go to country in 2007?

        Another 4 years of this lot!!

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    • 52
      Peter Grimes says:

      The ‘strong wrenching smell’ comes from McBust’s soiled nappies.

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    • 112
      Anonymous says:

      Beware of Liebour postal votes, the scheme is vastly vulnerable to fraud before, during and after balloting.

      Watch McSnot appoint McVestalVirginBride to the Downing Street dirty tricks Electoral Fraud Committee!

      When that fails it will be the Civil Contingencies Act.

      (Thanks for intercepting this blog Mr Information and Propaganda Comical Ali Commissioner, a few more key words to help you – chemical weapons Brown, WMD Blair, jihad)

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    • 167
      Rob says:

      Twizzle hit it right on the nose.
      I Fxcking detest Brown for what he has done to this country but am deeply grateful for his complete lack of balls in not to going to the country when he stood a very good chance of winning.

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  14. 19
    Happy says:

    Guido go for the kill, this could very easily bring forward the total demise of this self seeking bunch of hypocrites. Draper MUST GO, Watson MUST GO and how clean is Mandelson?

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    • 23
      Anon says:

      I notice he’s keeping his head down this long weekend. Any other occasion the slimy shit would be everywhere.

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    • 30
      Anonymous says:

      I would love to hear what Mandy has to say about all this.

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    • 75
      Anonymous says:

      Draper would not fart without first checking with the dark Lord

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        Centre Parting says:

        Will Kate Garraway suddenly develop morning sickness to excuse her from GMTV – she can’t possibly present the show with a story going on of which she is part.

        If management don’t act they can only be seen to be as left as the BBC

        John Stapleton will put forward his ‘old’ Labour view on it. Andrew Castle too decent to be on it!

        Not a fan of GMTV – it is the ‘Fisher Price’ news channel!

        Can’t wait for the next Hello (will get the missus to read it out to me)
        Derek changing a soiled nappy would fit the bill.

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  15. 21
    Cato Street Conspirator says:

    The noose is surely tightening. At this rate we could be seeing an October general election. Keep up the pressure.

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  16. 22

    Leave the Obama Messiah out of it.

    Spin, hype and precious little substance.

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  17. 24
    Mr X Cherie's strapon fuck boy says:

    Keep it coming Guido but tread carefully. This government murders people who cross it.

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    • 114
      Anonymous says:

      Expect McBride and his thugs to be on a 27/7 search for dirt to dish on you, but then I’m sure you already knew that.
      Liebour is pondlife scum.

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    Plato says:

    Anyone know what McBride had on Mrs Andrew Marr? She is very jolly about his fall from grace.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/apr/13/damian-mcbride-email-gordon-brown-cameron-osborne

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  19. 26

    [...] Guido’s allegations about Brown’s likely knowledge and approval of the plan seem to me to be just as basless and malicious as any of the ideas McBride and Draper emailed to each other. [...]

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    • 61

      Oh get real, open your eyes and smell the coffee.

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    • 80
      David Ferguson says:

      Well you know what? It’s perfectly simple to sort that one out. All Broon needs to do is open the books and let us all have a good look – you know the old saw “People with nothing to hide have nothing to fear…”?

      And you know what else? There is not the slightest likelihood of that happening. Because while I have not the least doubt that it would prove Gordo’s oh-so-carefully worded version – “I knew nothing at all about these emails” – to be absolutely factually accurate, it would also open a can of maggot-infested stinking worms that would be hard to look at with anything in your stomach.

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    James Donaldson says:

    I have heard rumours that a secret recording, exists of Drapers meeting with Brown where he discusses these emails. However this will remain hidden until a few days before the election to slam the final nail into Gordon “this has nothing to do with me” Brown’s coffin!

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  21. 29
    Anon says:

    Turf all the bastards out.

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  22. 30
    Dogger says:

    Jackie Ashley in the Guardian: “It’s too late for the prime minister to shrug off McBride with expressions of surprise and horror, as if he’d been walking around with a portly vulture on his shoulder for years without noticing. McBride was as inner circle as it gets. If the prime minister didn’t know what he was up to, he should have done.”

    The more he denies the worse it will get for him.

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    ron Vibentrop says:

    History repeats itself. In the words of Oliver Cromwell, “It is high time for me to put an end to your sitting in this place, which you have dishonored by your contempt of all virtue, and defiled by your practice of every vice; ye are a factious crew, and enemies to all good government; ye are a pack of mercenary wretches, and would like Esau sell your country for a mess of pottage, and like Judas betray your God for a few pieces of money.

    Is there a single virtue now remaining amongst you? Is there one vice you do not possess? Ye have no more religion than my horse; gold is your God; which of you have not barter’d your conscience for bribes? Is there a man amongst you that has the least care for the good of the Commonwealth?

    Ye sordid prostitutes have you not defil’d this sacred place, and turn’d the Lord’s temple into a den of thieves, by your immoral principles and wicked practices? Ye are grown intolerably odious to the whole nation; you were deputed here by the people to get grievances redress’d, are yourselves gone!

    You have sat here too long for any good you have been doing lately … Depart, I say; and let us be done with you. In the name of God, go”

    Now you see why the Great Slug has to keep the military tied up in Iraq and Afghanistan, otherwise the coup would be well under way by now. As the cabinet is collectively guilty of mass murder their time WILL come.

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    • 34
      Peter Grimes says:

      From that quote we can see the big joke the creator of RedRag was having on us by signing as Ollie Cromwell.

      Smug bastards – go get ‘em, Guido!

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      • 71
        What? says:

        And I gather the creator left no address…
        False registration information for a website?
        Isn’t this illegal?

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      • 116
        Sarah says:

        They had to pay for the site name – it would be interesting to see whose credit card was used.

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    • 115
      Anonymous says:

      Agreed on the army.

      Liebour’s visceral hatred of the armed forces is genetically engrained.
      So not only has it starved them of resources and over committed them to illegal wars, its now scared witless about a backlash if they ever came home for a “victory” parade down the Mall, tank turrets might just swivel eyes-right at the door of No 10.

      Joy!

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  24. 35

    Alan Johnson on BBC Breakfast was clearly rattled. His “If it wasn’t a bank holiday Monday then you wouldn’t be bothering with this story,” sounded very hollow. All credit to Charlie Stayt who pressed the point that how could Gordon Brown not know what his personal advisor was up to.

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    • 69
      Andrew the NuLab Hater says:

      Watched this – Stayt has done a reasonable job, first yesterday on the lightweight Byrne, and then today on Johnson.

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  25. 36

    A classic case of painting yourself into a corner. Why on earth would Draper be lunched by Brown, unless of course Browns mental health is now being examined and the Prime Minister is now on the books of the phony trick cyclist?

    It could also take on historic proportions ” Will no one rid me of this man?” This has been used to good effect over the years. It is known that Brown
    ( former Scottish Television Junior Producer, I am told) has an almighty temper and in one of those seeing red rag moments (aaaaah that’s where the name came from!) could well have given the go ahead for the black arts programme.

    Then look at McBridie, a longtime foot soldier of Brown, and no doubt has kept every scrap of evidence for the book which will no doubt appear in a few months.

    I’d like to see the desk diaries and contemperaneous notes… If Inspector Knacker could drum up a charge and have McBridie arrested, the thin blue line could enter the Mcbridie household and spirit away (sorry collect evidence) ensuring that what remains a state secret is still a state secret for the next few years.

    A messy business and if Guido, I’d be topping up the life insurance and not going for country walks like the unfortunate Doctor K…

    There is lots more to come out, people are very careless and I appeal to former civil servants to route around in their lofts, as they may still hold on old floppy disks and purloined or out of date laptops, some missing pieces could be recovered.

    Also second hand dealers closely examine any computer base stations or hard drives. Central Government has been known to discard whole departments full of computing equipment for new gear if only to use up the annual budget allocation (Governmednt works on the basis of spend it or lose it).

    Old filing casbinets and office furniture, another good source as the odd file or floppy slips down the back of the drawer….in the campaigning days of Fleet Street fuelled with a few clarets at El Vino’s, every dustbin in Whitehall ( and at MP’s and PR’s second/third homes would have been gone through, these days many front line hacks would no more dig through the rubbish bins than fly to the moon.

    Finally wi-fi is good, many MP’s will have set up their wi-fi and not protected the signal, could well be the battered old van sitting outside is happily reading the e-mails, courtesy of a wireless signal.

    This could of course all be a bad dream, a case of too many tinctures…..but there again for Gordon to say “Sorry” will take the discovery of weapons of mass destruction, or perhaps unlike Blair he has found them in the form of e-mails….

    As to Gordon brown policing the e-mails, he has an It department who would have monitored all the traffic and no doubt on a hard disk somewhere have all the e-mails neatly preserved unless the electronic version of the paper shredder has been at work overnight ….we should be told.

    As for the next election, labour MP’s time to re-train as a whole new career awaits you out there following the next general election so make the most of what you can claim for, the sands of time are running out…… or throwing the baby out with the bath water perhaps there is a justification for the 89p bath plug after all…..must write an e-mail

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    • 40
      Tekkie Tool says:

      WMA coding has been broken and can be taken over after a lot of messing about, and all other wifi is insecure. There is adequate training on Utube on how to crack anyone’s and read it as it happens. MP in bed with his lap top using wifi…Go boys…

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    Dogger says:

    MPs’ pensions – that’s the next front to attack on.

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      Anonymous says:

      and the entire troughing civil service/local authority unfunded pension deal as well, cut them all down to the level of the state pension.

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    LOL from planet Mad! says:

    Dont get too excitable and look for the early kill.
    Take this nice and slowly and enjoy the undoing of every single denial, every hands off, as information appears linking trade unions (Whelan) to smears, ministers to smears (Byrne), MP’s to smears (Watson) as the smelly little gang are shot off the fence.
    The MSM dont like being brow beaten. Boulton at Sky used to be very close to Blair (family interest) but on Galloway he was damning.
    The MSM herd when turned is unforgiving, like a divorcing wife.
    So far a masterful trump card, but dont play the others too soon…the game has still some rounds to go!

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      Grimly Fiendish says:

      Still looking for the Grand Slam though!

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      Peter Grimes says:

      Just bye the bye, but why are all of these ZaNuLaBor incompetent spin doctors such fat-faced, sweating, florid thugs? And ugly too!

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      Anonymous says:

      It’ll take a lot to wrest these parasites from the public teat. They’re totally addicted to our money, and know nothing else.

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        Cyco Billy says:

        The problem is the teat is so damned humongous, filling thousands of quangos and social institutions. Its hangers-on will take a decade to be prised off.

        Anyone for a spot of McCarthyism? I thought not – the Scottish connection is rather distasteful.

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    David Ferguson says:

    Why is the fat whelk being allowed to carry on peddling the story that ‘he knew nothing about the emails’. Of course he didn’t know anything about the emails. “I don’t want to see or hear about any emails, lads…”

    When is some self-respecting journo going to ask Broono’s spokesdrones the obvious questions: Did he know about Red Rag? Did he know about the strategy? Of course they’re not going to say anything but ‘No’, but it would be a joy to see the grotesque expression on their greasy oily faces as they utter the barefaced lies.

    Also, I asked this question on Labourlost but it got censored so I’ll ask it here. Is there any evidence that McBride and Draper anticipated that once the pox smear was out and about, thick people would start to say to themselves “Aye aye, and his lad is disabled. Well that would explain it…” ?

    Is it possible that such a pair of thoroughgoing hoons didn’t see that coming and savour the idea with a good deal of relish?

    I couldn’t resist by the way. I even had a go myself – “I wasn’t lying on purpose…”:

    http://www.china.org.cn/international/2009-04/13/content_17593174.htm

    (Alan Johnston on Today at the moment making it clear that the PM has no intention of apologising. Feeble performance by Naughtie allowing him to meander as far from the point as possible)

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    Ed the Shred says:

    I presume someone has complained to Nominet about the false name used in registering the redrag domain name? Ollie Cromwell clearly is not someone’s real name.

    Or maybe it is one of the other 16 influential people that Dolly knows? In his dreams.

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      British walls for British Nokias says:

      Isn’t that banned under the basis that nominet argue that the owner should be publicly known?

      Wonder who registered, was it McBride or one of the other bunker boys?

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        talwin says:

        He perhaps thinks he does know Oliver Cromwell; some sort of psychotherapy technique involving regression.

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    Captain Mannering of the Homeguard Warmington on Sea. says:

    Evev if Guido forces No 10 to admit that the Redrag website was known of and encouraged, Brown will not resign, the only way he will go is if he is given a shove by the Cabinet whilst having lost the confidence of the PLP. What would really help would be if the “smeargate” episode had some illegal (even minor) aspect to it which could be turned into a never ending investigation by media and knacker, though both up until now seem to be in the pocket of Zanubour. Would it be to much to hope that Johnson, Cruddas maybe the very ambitious Harman might attempt to destabalize Brown by briefing against him or be in open rebellion. I am no Socialist but Cruddas has the lean and hungry look of someone who has taken the trouble to ensure that his “affairs” are in order i.e honest though politically wrong.

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      eagerbeaver says:

      Cruddas has second home issues. Despite representing a London constituency and being a good socialist he has claimed second home expenses in order to purchase a property in Notting Hill as it is convenient for his duaghter’s selective Catholic school.

      Neatly encapsulates Labour sleaze over expenses and hypocrisy over education.

      Expect this to become a much talked about issue if Cruddas gets anywhere near real power.

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    Cassandra King says:

    BTW, Damien McBride is not going to happy that he alone is carrying the can for everyone else, newlabour MPs lining up to insult and demean him, how the fucking worm turns eh? from feared Brown enforcer to to insult sponge/patsy in a weekend!
    All the blame will be poured on one person all the vitriol and built up spite heaped on a single scapegoat, like a soviet show trial the patsy takes all the blame and gets sacrificed, he alone has to bear all the shame and humiliation.

    Loved it when Alan Johnson slipped and implicated his master in plotting against his enemies, it was an ‘oh fuck’ moment like no other!
    This is the moron thats tipped to lead newlabour?

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    LET ME MAKE IT PERFECTLY CLEAR
    IT IS CLEAR
    LET’S BE CLEAR ABOUT THIS
    IT IS CLEAR TO ME

    When politicians and ministers speak unfortunately the chinese manufactured Hoon Brand computer chip controlling thought processes (very small chip) has been doctored (small flap behind right ear) whenever you hear the word ‘clear’ please substitute the word ‘obscure’ . Whenever they use the word ‘obscure’ insert ‘ the word ‘Porkies’ .

    Courtesy Doods Parliamentary Companion 2009 rev1

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    Casual Observer says:

    That Snotgobbler McTwat actually had lunch with the despicable Draper say quite a lot about both of them.

    I wonder how Miss Garraway is reacting to all this as her grotty apology for a husband hides in his hotel room in the Canary Islands watching the news on telly with his mobile stuck to his grubby lug?

    I wonder what GMTV think about one of their team being involved in all this?

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      anonybot says:

      We should NOT sink to the level of the Labour Party by trying to drag the spouses into this mess.

      Mrs Draper(nee Garraway) and her family have absolutely nothing to do with the matter and she is probably as appalled by Derek’s behaviour as everyone else is

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        Yes, leave Kate out of it. She is suffering enough.

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        A.N Other says:

        GMTV is run by Labour supporters as are most of it’s presenters. It is so biased towards the Labour Party that I’m amazed it has not had it’s licence questioned. I’m sure Garraway would support her husband. I would imagine it would be difficult to work at GMTV unless you lick the backside of the Labour party.

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    Tin Cunliffe says:

    November the FOURTH!

    If he had any sense of fun he’d have waited a day.

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    Dolly is such a up his own arse twat he would have been incapable of not gushing his plans all over McBroon in order to show The Great Leader how clever he was and how helpful he was being.

    And the One Eyed Snot Gobbler would have loved it.

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      Anonymous says:

      Penguin

      nail on head. Draper would have been full of it and watching previous performances would not have resisted the ‘look what a hero I am for you’

      I am already convinced Brown knew though providing the proof will be tricky

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    coshbrew says:

    Has anyone noticed how bloggers used to comment on stories uncovered by newspapers and now it has been reversed

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    Javelin says:

    The political lobby are just as much to blame for this credit crisis as the greedy banking directors. The soft-interviews by Marr, Peston and Robinson etc. The lack of criticism of New Labour.

    There is a necessary prerequisit of a culture of journalistic sychophantism for there to be a culture of culture of credit. The internet documents the failings of the Bank of England. The lobby are equally responsibly, and specifically the BBC news for the crisis in this country.

    Can there a great conspiracy – yes – one where every one had shared values and goals but no-one dares to say the opposite. Not so much a conspiracy against a culture but the culture in journalism itself. Machevelli said a conspiracy never works, but he didn’t talk about a cultural-consipracy. That works and the people in it can’t even see it as a conspiracy.

    The BBC News needs to be smashed into a thousand pieces and its chief seuth-sayers like Marr, Robinson and Peston need to be sunk deeper than the Titanic. They have known about Brown’s bulling for years, they have known so much and said so little. Is it right to stand by whilst a small child drowns in a puddle. They could have said so much, but have said so little.

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      Heads on poles says:

      Totally agree.
      With the soft interviews, never pressing for an answer (half the country screaming the obvious questions at the television or radio) and letting politicians talk the interview out of time, this is why people do not trust politicians.
      Politicians are the spoilt children and the media are the ignorant parents – we must blame them both.

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      Cabbers says:

      I have stumbled across a highly secretive politically motivated so-called educational charity, “Common Purpose” with shared values & goals, which would seem to confirm your conjecture of a great Orwellian conspiracy out there. Recommend you look at http://www.stopcp.com

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  38. 73
    Steve Jobs says:

    If you read the text of the e-mail that we have seen, sent by Dolly to Damien McHunt, the daft fucker used his iPhone. And forwarded in his reply, the previous ‘from’ e-mail. So, O2, the only UK firm providing iPhone e-mail service will have all the e-mail headers, including tos and froms. For that, and any (every) other e-mail Dolly will have sent and received, relating to this. They (O2) can’t delete them as Jacqui says they should keep them. To help catch Terrorists, and prevent crime of course. He’ll be losing his iPhone soon too, thinking that’ll be the end of it.

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      Peter Grimes says:

      Whip round in order for the O2 whistle blower who provides the evidence?

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      Road_Hog says:

      Dear Mr. Jobs,

      I always had you down as a fairly tech savvy guy. But you need to understand your products/markets much more clearly.

      It has been possible in the UK to unlock the iphone and use a different service provider sim card, for quite some time.

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      British walls for British Nokias says:

      FOI request? I mean, its in the “public interest” after all :)

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    What are we paying our Unite Union fees for? says:

    If there are any other Unite Union members reading this blog then I suggest calling the Unite General Secretary’s office tomorrow morning and asking what the hell’s going on. It’s a bloody disgrace.

    HOW MUCH MONEY IS UNITE SHOVELLING OVER TO LABOURLIST AND WHO AUTHORISED THE TRANSFER?

    Unite
    General Secretary,
    35 King Street,
    Covent Garden,
    London
    WC2E 8JG

    T: 020 7420 8900

    See below from the Guardian…

    Draper claimed on his website last night that the emails were procured by somebody hacking into his private email account – an attempt to blacken the name of Guido Fawkes, the blogger who uncovered them.

    But some Labour sources were pointing the finger at the Unite trade union which is riven by splits. Charlie Whelan, the union’s political director who is a former Brown aide, was copied into the email, as was his aide Andrew Dodgshon. There is no suggestion that either of them leaked the emails, but there is a suspicion that one of Whelan’s many enemies in the union may have. One Unite source said: “There is no shortage of people who would be prepared to leak those emails. People are queueing up to punch Charlie’s lights out.”

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    the decent thing says:

    Good morning Gordon. We’re still waiting.

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    fidothedog says:

    The Brown apology will be I knew nothing, my eye was elsewhere(on the bedside table) and it was all someone else’s fault.

    I saved the World, and the whole thing started in America. I am getting on with the job and focused 24/7 on resolving the problems. Whilst meeting celebs and footballers in South America….

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    Former civil servant says:

    Brown clearly knew about this…

    1. Brown sets the culture in No 10 and chooses his advisers. McBride and others around Brown have been smearing for years – in No 10 and previously in the Treasury. If Brown was bothered by these tactics, he would have reined in McBride – in which case McBride would have stopped long ago and not started discussing the Red Rag idea.

    2. However, the public posturing of Brown as a leader of moral courage and homage to the values of his father is pure bollocks. We know that Brown is obsessed with tactics and bullying – real and imagined enemies are everywhere for Gordon Brown…. it’s in his DNA. He would have approved of such an operation and it is unthinkable that it would go ahead without his blessing.

    3. Brown is intensely controlling and obsessive about his image and what is going on around him. Just as the idea that a 2007 election was being planned without his involvement is totally implausible, so it is implausible that he would not know of this.

    4. We know Draper is an appalling mendacious show-off, with nothing to show-off about. There is no chance that he would have kept this to himself as he needs to show he is doing something. It could not have been avoided in discussion with Brown.

    5. We should also look to Draper’s vanity as the source of the leak – he will have been unable to resist forwarding the e-mails to associates to show how in the loop he is once again.

    … Despite the acres of coverage generated by Guido’s terrific journalistic endeavour, I think Guido’s most excellent investigative scoop is actually this one – about the Draper-Brown lunch. It’s amazing to me that no other mainstream political journalist has seen fit to pursue the obvious question and to expose this quite-easy-to-find association. Maybe it just holds a mirror up to their own inadequacy and bias.

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    horsehairbuttplug says:

    Are the useful idiots as Lenin named them at the Guardian still deluding themselves that victory is possible?! What kind of victory would it be?! An utterly ruined Britain?! Arv to they so debased, immoral and given over the worship of all things vile as to want more power?! Can’t they see what they’ve done to our homeland, our people, our schools, hospitals, economy, the poor mentally-ill children who infest the streets?! What kind of victory do they hope for: paedophilia legalised, slavery and rape common practise, a bartering system to replace a money economy?!

    No you will not win ever again: you are finished as a force for evil in this country: soon you will be held to account for your treachery and crimes: your acts of unspeakable evil and depravity. Console yourself while you await the hangman’s noose that it was about the smear campaign: much good will it do you.

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      Peter Grimes says:

      Horsehairbuttplug – you are McDoom’s rocking horse and I claim my £5 – or 2 Zimbabwean dollars preferably.

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    Jonathan Cook says:

    That Gruaniad article you link to ……………… is fantastic. At heart is this whole story a ‘Red on Red’ war????

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    McKay says:

    So what peerage can we expect for McNasty ? Lord Goebbels of Besmirch ?

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    Jonathan Cook says:

    I’ve just read the other Grauniad article you are linking to…… also fantastic..

    The recipient was Derek Draper, another of those flies that buzz around decaying governments

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    Anonymous says:

    It does get better! Hallelujah!

    If Brown knew anything about this website he has to go, it contradicts everything he said on becoming PM and the BBC’s promises that he knows nothing are a scandal on their own

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    1984/25 Orewellthatendsbadly says:

    Isn’t it easy to mistake chatter for imminent power? It is actually a distraction from power. Power to do good will not start until the BBC is eliminated or changed for a genuine objective force or a truly free press. Can you see that with no BBC then Sky, ITN etc. would not trawl the same safe waters & murky depths?

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    Desperate from Herts says:

    This is the first time I have read Guido’s site – and enormous credit to him – and all his readers for their outing of this latest disgusting tactic by our so called “leader”.

    BUT. I have a question – for all the tales of dirty tricks, smears, bullying, weak journo’s etc – how do we know the other party (ies) are not doing the same thing?

    I want to believe in Cameron and Co – I really do – anything to get rid of Brown and his crew – but if its sauce for the goose – isn’t it sauce for the gander as well? Are some of you posting lies and smears on here because you can and because its a friendly site?? (I realise this is probably rhetorical cos if you are smearing you certainly wouldn’t admit to it!).

    I suspect many writers are people with position and influence – so why are you writing under the radar? Why not come out and say it in public?

    I have long believed that the Fourth Estate is culpable and guilty for much of the countries ails – not that they have committed the crimes – but that they didn’t shout about them from the rooftops – from what I read I feel some of you think the same way. Am I naive – is there a way for truth to come out without it being modern-day Robin Hood’s like Guido?

    This country is a mess – a disgraceful mess – please let some sanity replace the madness – please let Dave and Co being cleaner than clean – our children need him to be…

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      ray says:

      “Am I naive – is there a way for truth to come out without it being modern-day Robin Hood’s like Guido?”

      Yes…and no.

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      Unsworth says:

      The choice is yours. Cameron et al may not be ideal – but what alternatives do you have if you want rid of Brown and his henchmen?

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    • 162

      First things first – this corrupt govt must go and the sooner the better. If Cameron & Co don’t get the underlying message and realise it’s for them too, then things could very well be worse for them because Blair, Brown et al have used up all our patience.

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      Aberdeen Agnes McDayie says:

      Dear Desperate,

      Do read Brecht’s Galileo. At the end Galileo emerges from the Inquisition, apparently a broken figure. His protege is in anguish – and cries, Sad is the land that has no heroes. Galileo replies, Sad is the land that needs heroes.

      A moral tale, no?

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        Anonymous says:

        Just like Desperate from Herts I have been led to this site by the furore about the emails from No 10. I’m not stupid, probably just an ordinary person who watches the news, reads newspapers and then realises how niaive I am when confronted by this revelation. The 2nd / 3rd homes and expenses theft of my money was bad enough for me to stomach but this little lot! Fake blog sites to smear the opposition with lies to discredit them and then the hard face not to apologise when caught out. What kind of people are they and what kind of people will vote for them after this? Thanks for bringing this site into the view of ordinary people like me. I hope many more people have found it too.

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    Anonymous says:

    I have just had apeek at Tom Watson’s website. There is a Teens section. Thisis what it says:

    Teens
    We know that you’re too busy fighting off your biological urges and being l33t hax0rs to Get Involved, but politics is cool, m’kay?Nobody ever seems to do anything for The Kids! All the decisions are made by suits, man. That’s so lame!!! We know you think of yourselves as responsible citizens, but what you wanna do is turn that thought into an action, dudes.

    Get involved – to the extreme!

    The BBC politics for kids/teens site is, like, totally wacked! Ditto for the Parliament education site, which even has a section for younger yoof. Fanta-stick!

    YoungGov is totally the business for having your say, and there are even wicked Youth Parliament sites for the UK, Scotland and Europe.

    (Hey, chill with the anti-Europe vibes already! You totally won’t be able to wear the word ‘fcuk’ on your shirt anymore if we break our connection with France, y’dig? ROFFLE!)

    So, cut it with the bling bling and do something for the community, man. Join in and take action with any of the groovy sites we’ve listed, or just drop Tom a line for a quiet rap by the electronic e-mail. Tom’s well-up on the Interwebnet, and he won’t harsh your buzz or dis you down the line.

    WARNING: Getting involved in politics may cause premature ageing and a sudden loss of friends.

    He appears to be quite deranged!

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  52. 113

    [...] Guido Fawkes' blog. a national must read – With one scalp under his belt and top stories like this and this developing, those in the corridors of power will be nervous about who is next on his hit [...]

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    Cleethorpes Rock says:

    I tells ya, the way to go on this is to probe what’s going on at Unite and Charlie Whelan’s embezzlement to fund JamRag. Did you know that if Union members want to “opt-out” of the political levy, they have to fill in a form? When the Tories get in, replacing it with a five-page “opt-in” form (for electoral “transparency”, of course!) will all but turn off the taps to Labour’s coffers.

    As for further e-mails implicating Brown, can these be saved until the next Bank Holiday weekend? Failing that, a steady drip feed throughout the General Election campaign would do nicely.

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  54. 119
    Clarinda says:

    Those of you delighted that Labour is three-quarters of the way through its heinous act of self-destruction should perhaps note that the others at Westminster are blessing their little cotton socks that “There for the grace of God…… go the Tories and/or the LibDums. Would they be so different?
    At least here, in Scotland, we have rid ourselves of the eye-wateringly incometent Labour muppetry, the Tories and Lib Dums are a lost cause here anyway – and we have the alternative chance of decent government with the SNP. A new and robust political force which has swept away the gutter detritus of Westminster party politics and has given Scotland back some political dignity and self-belief.
    There will always be those politicians who warrant the description, so well noted by Robert Burns, “a parcel of rogues” – wrapped up and protected by their snivelling press and media – so perhaps it’s notsomuch a change in our politicians that we need but a return to a free, decent and intelligent journalism.
    Our partisan Scottish press was rumbled some time ago and are now out of sight, such is the depth of the hole they dug for themselves. So far the SNP is clear of the political pond-life that exists on the decaying “twitching corpse of Labour” (thank you Mr Cable for that description) and the few remaining Holyrood parasites that attempt to land on the SNP are easily squished by its leadership – and I really mean Leadership.
    Guido frequently appears as a reference in Scottish comment sites – excellent stuff.

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      Clarinda says:

      Forgot to add – is it a coincidence that today is the birthday of Guy Fawkes 13/04/1570 – sorry if this has been previously noted.

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    backwoodsman says:

    l l Look, you don’t understand whats important…didn’t you hear the bbc soundbite about my plans to create 300,00 jobbies in the electric car industry ?
    G. Brown

    Nice work Fawkes !!!!

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    Anonymous says:

    Well, when The Sun comes out against Labour, you know they’re FCUK’ed:

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/sun_says/article244723.ece

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  57. 136
    chris says:

    The Daily Telegraph this morning is reporting that Andrew Dodgshon has been appointed as Editor of Red Rag . Is this an extension of his job at Unite? If so who added it to his job description? If the appointment came from the outside then who appointed him and who is going to be paying his wages/expenses? Was he at the lunch with Gordon?

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  58. 144
    George says:

    I do not understand, if the government (Gordon Brown) is to be believed, then why did they accept Damian McBride resignation, should he not have been dismissed? The fact that he has not been dismissed suggests that he was operating within the framework set by his employer.

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    Jacqui five bellies says:

    I hear Liebour is setting up a new blog. It’s going to be called ‘TOE RAG’ and will be fronted by Prescott, Mandelson, Draper and McPoison.

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  60. 161

    Does Drapper still have a gov.uk email address? if so it will give a good indicaution of his status and use by the government…….just an idea

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    Anonymous says:

    Err, link to these emails please?

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    Minekiller says:

    Given the toilet humour of British society, one wonders how in touch these idiots think they are when they come up with a blog name like ‘Red Rag’ – probably meant to be “red rag to a bull’ etc etc. However, we could just call it ‘Tampon’ – the nickname climbers give to Crampons, since if you don’t put them on well enough you will slip, fall off the mountain and end up ‘looking like a jam rag’ yourself. Here in Holland tampons are called red rags or red flags which sums up the bleeding Hunts that are Labour.

    I am sorry if this comes across a mite crude, but there wasn’t really a more refined way to put it. So if this message falls into the public domain, then I am of course sorry but only to my colleagues who I may have let down, with the brilliant, absolutely brilliant theme my message is meant to convey, but not of course be used – since this is just a bit of harmless banter among bloggers and part of the rough and tumble of the new politics of the blog……

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    anon126 says:

    As i say elsewhere (http://anon126.blogspot.com/2009/04/browndraper-connection.html & elsewhere on the blog) it is simply idiotic the way labour is handling this story. It is all coming out anyway. Hiding the facts makes it much worse for labour.

    Guido’s right about the lunch in my opinion the timing is so that the lie strategy must have been the reason for the meeting.

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    kevin says:

    red rag was registered by ollie cromwell.ollies family ended up living at chequers where there is a display of his stuff.do you think that’s coincidence.

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    Calvin Swine says:

    The BBC don’t consider this car crash worthy of a “Have Your Say” topic.

    Instead they have a front page piece entitled:

    PM apology ‘not needed’

    Well, thank goodness that’s sorted out then.

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    Blastmaster says:

    As a recent vistor to your site and all things blog, I have been strangely fascinated by the increasing crescendo of irreverence for our ruling masters in this our National Socialist state. There appears to be a lot of talk about the lack of bollocks shown by HM Brown Shirt Oppostion Party but if just a handful of your contributors were to have any, then surely we would be galvanised to imitate the more forceful tactics as demonstrated by Thailands red shirts.
    I hope this is helpful.

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    Mrs Trellis says:

    “Derek Draper’s “Red Rag” anonymous smear site was registered on November 4, 2008″

    TWO WEEKS EARLIER (17 October, 2008):

    “A Downing Street office reorganisation, ordered by the Prime Minister, has been modelled on the Telegraph’s own revolutionary office design.

    It will see Gordon Brown taking a central role in an open plan area based on a “hub-and-spoke” design.

    Shaking up previous convention, Mr Brown has decided to spend some of his time working in Downing Street surrounded his closest aides.

    The Telegraph operates a unique “hub-and-spoke” office at its headquarters. The key section heads meet centrally and their team each have a spoke stretching away from the “hub”.

    One insider said: “It is not as large as the Telegraph model because there are fewer people involved, but Gordon will sit centrally with others either side. Then further out you will see the rest of his advisers.

    “Like the hub-and-spoke it is designed to ensure that communication lines are clear and decisions can be made swiftly.”

    Those closest to Mr Brown at “the hub” will be Liam Byrne, the Cabinet Office Secretary, Tom Watson, a junior minister under Mr Byrne and close confident of the Prime Minister, Gavin Kelly, his political secretary, and Sue Nye, his veteran gatekeeper. They will be joined at various times by other senior figures – including Lord Mandelson and Baroness Vadera – when particular issues are being dealt with.

    Mr Watson recently toured The Telegraph’s Victoria offices in central London and took notes on how the office was organised. ”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/labour/3217672/Gordon-Brown-copies-Telegraph-office-design-in-Downing-Street.html

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      Blastmaster says:

      “..but Gordon will sit centrally with others either side. Then further out you will see the rest of his advisers. ….”
      er, but surely our beloved leader, much like the magnificent Lord Horatio Nelson.. can only see those seated to one side….thus rendering him clueless and unaccountable as to what is occurring on the other….
      .

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      Lou Scannon says:

      That’s it then – the Telecrap’s fxxked.

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    Mrs Trellis says:

    NO EXCUSES NOW THEN, GORDON.

    LOOK US ALL STRAIGHT IN THE EYE AND TELL US YOU DIDN’T KNOW.
    .

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    • 187
      Blastmaster says:

      …please don’t mock the afflicted….
      …wouldn’t it be so much nicer if we could chance to look our magnifcent and beloved leader in his eye……?

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    Dock says:

    McBride thought up the slanders, wanted to publish them, had lunch with Brown, and didn’t publish them. He must have told Brown what he intended to do, and Brown stopped him. Hence Brown doesn’t see why he should apologise (though it is true he doesn’t do apologies).

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    magic teapot says:

    loving the comments, keep up the good work guido, but this labour thing of trying to smear the opposition has been going on for some time now, i’m thinking about that idiot with the silly haircut who goes by the name of sion simon……..an unfortunate little man with too much time on his hands (and hair no doubt) and his “webcameron” spoof, which was a perhaps an early (clumsy) attempt at using the net to make an opposition member look like a fool, it backfired famously and sillyhair sion was exposed as the ignorant tosser that he is
    problem with new labour is that they don’t learn from their mistakes, they are a collective car crash that just keeps rolling on from one disgrace to another……time to get rid of them me thinks.

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Can anyone help me? I went on holiday a week ago and returned to find someone has pulled out the stake and Gordon Brown is back and acting as Prime Minister. What did I miss? Has there been a snap election?


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