April 12th, 2009

Draper : “Absolutely Totally Brilliant Damian”Brown : “There Is No Place in Politics for the Dissemination or Publication of Material of This Kind”

The News of the World reveals the smears – full story here.

Draper has lied from the beginning about this whole affair. His candid honest response to receiving these smears – which he wanted to publish as soon as possible – was to tell their poisonous author that they were “brilliant”.  Surely decent Labour-minded people have had enough of him?  He is an electoral liability who should be cast adrift. In the words of Gordon Brown, there is absolutely no place in politics for Derek.


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    This derranged and strange little man should go but perhaps with a bit of style.

    I suggest suffocated between his wife’s love jugs with Anton holding him, anyone any better?

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    Anonymous says:

    THis is straight out of a Stephen Fry Radio 4 comedy. Excellent.

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    Good to see you on the paper reviews this morning.

    Happy Easter!

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    Red Sceptic says:

    I second the above, but with Kate face-sitting one-eyed Gordo …

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    Anonymous says:

    So the tax payer paid for mcbride, doesn’t seem much value their how many nurses salaries was he paid? should labour be forced to pay it back?

    and union members pay draper, i guess they think its good money to waste union subscriptions on his ‘juvenile’ antics its not as if were entering the ‘brownturn’ and union members are going to be needing help soon

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    mutley says:

    I even saw you on telly last night and you didnt completely fluff it! Well done!

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    Anonymous says:

    Setting up the RedFlag web site to “disseminate” lurid information must mean Draper has to go as well.

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    Anonymous says:

    The next Private Eye shoud be fun when it reveals how Guido was hawking these emails round the papers and how much he was asking for them.

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    Anonymous says:

    Apologies “Red Rag”

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    I think this is such a good Easter Sunday

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    Anonymous says:

    Guido never received a penny from the papers.

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    Anonymous says:

    Many Labour MPs and their bag men are in denial, or can’t understand, the contempt they held in by the mass of the Electorate. I would go further and say the contempt has now turned to hatred.

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    I know it is Easter Sunday but ... says:

    Fuck off ass hole.

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    Anonymous says:

    New Labour = New Nasty Party

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    jacko says:

    some class work there

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    Anonymous says:

    Yes, his payment was the sacking of McBride.

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    Ian says:

    Draper on sky sport: you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, pillock.

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    Jonathan Cook says:

    Draper has been found to have told lie after lie and also stated that he would happily misdirect his readers. Personally I’d be embarrassed to associate myself as an author on that web-site.

    Brown is going to have to sack Draper – or distance him from the Labour party – because Brown’s long running vile smear operation is being exposed.

    Congratulations once again Guido.

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    Just as well, isn’t it, that Cameron & Co never ever make up nasty stories and peddle them to the press in an attempt to smear people they don’t like, within their own party as well as outside it?

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    I have a really nice bottle of single malt for the first person that calls one of the nasty NU_liebour fron bench a HOON, on one of the mainstream media outlets.

    No shouting it just making a statement of fact

    Preferably the snot gobbler but any will suffice to win.

    If Guido (who has been fantastic this week) will post up the video that is the winner

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    Stepney says:

    Congratulations Guido – job well done. Return to base. Scrambled eggs for breakfast.

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    Plato says:

    That R5 slot made me wince – Phil Williams is very one eyed about the Tories – I think he was fed poll-tax stories for breakfast as a teenager.

    And what is it with radio presenters implying that a ‘blogger’ is a lower form of life than a ‘journalist’??

    Loved your Gilligan retort – ohohohohhohh :)

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    You’re missing the point. Two wrongs don’t make a right, and furthermore when Brown strolled into No. 10 he promised “an end to spin”.

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    Old Enough To Have Heard It All Before !!! says:

    Just heard you on Radio Five – hope you’re not always so smug ! Talk about the pot calling the kettle black !

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    Anonymous says:

    If Dolly really cared about Labour and it’s prospects he would cut his losses now and try and go with some dignity. He won’t of course (which makes it more fun). Like his master he will hang on until the bitter end until he is dragged away screaming and kicking.

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    thespecialone says:

    You are going to get a lot more hits on this blog now. Brilliant…and I have just listened to George Galloway having a go at Dolly. I cant believe that I agree with Galloway for the first time in my life!! I wonder what Marr thinks? PIty his Nulabour spin outlet…errrrr I mean completely impartial Sunday morning show isnt on today!

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    Anonymous says:

    Mainstream journalists have no grounds for smugness. Imagine the stuff that goes unreported by the MSM. All they can come up with is bland, pravda like reporting and interviewing.

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    LurkingBlackHat says:

    Guido heard you on Radio 5 lite at 07:10am today.

    Made me laugh to hear BBC trying to smear you about your journalistic standards.

    Pot, kettle and black came to mind.

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    Fretfule Porpentine says:

    Well done Guido. I am sure you are expecting the worse they can throw at you now. I wish you well.

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    LurkingBlackHat says:


    Bugger off, there’s a good boy

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    bergen says:

    With no more than 15 months to an election,Brown really is totally up the creek now.Economy is already down the pan and now his dirty election plans are in disarray and he has to change his staff(again!).

    I’m starting to doubt that he will survive the wipe out due at the Euroelections.He won’t accept the revolver and the whisky bottle.Who’s going to organise the putsch?I know Clarke seems to have volunteered already but I think it will need at least Darling and Straw.Have they the cojones?

    Again,Guido,well done!(and who was that smug,self-important prat you sat on on BBC News 24 at 6 last night?).

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    martin. says:

    I am one more new visitor to the blog after listening to 5 live this morning. The level of our politics reaches a new low. I am a frequent visitor to Brazil and my friends there are always telling me that their politicians are incompetant and corrupt and that they envy us ours. I tell them that there is little difference now.

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    If I were this deranged and strange little man, I would be California dreaming right now.

    It’s back to Berkeley for Derek, not that he was ever there of course.

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    auchnacree says:

    I am unsure which is worse stealing private correspondence or making gossipy comments……

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    Michael says:

    Liam Byrne on BBC News 24 just now, what an absolute Hunt he is, cant answer a simple question and blatantly talking shite.

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    City of Vice says:


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    Anonymous says:

    I’ve hated them all since January 2006. Every cell in my body is filled with utter hatred.

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    Brilliant work Guido.
    Best fucking Easter present ever. It just keeps getting better.

    The kind of day that we have all been waiting for.
    McBride has gone and now Messrs Draper, Watson and Brown need to form an orderly queue!

    Also thought that you may find this of interest too.

    Happy days!

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    Michael says:

    LOL nice one, “James Hunt” is replaced by Hoon! ;)

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    Ed Balls says:

    So what!

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    Now that Damian McBride has had to fall on his sword, I wonder who will be next to go?

    Suddenly, being close to Number 10 doesn’t seem like such a smart career move.

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    Anonymous says:

    There are doubtless other McBrides in Brown’s employ using taxpayer money. It’s a wonder there’s enough left to fund ministers’ porn films and their parents’ houses.

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    Anonymous says:

    Either way you are a New Labour supporter, my sympathies sucker!

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    Hairy hands says:

    I’m wondering what the milfy Nadine was supposed to have done hmmm

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    That was payment enough.

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    Anonymous says:

    hain claims victory over Guido


    I think the corpse it still twitching – time for the old coup de grace.

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    sorry – that would be a pleasurable way to go out. and the one eyed snotgobbling idiot doesnt deserve it.
    face sat by harperson, however…

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    Deedee says:

    On Sky News, Stephen Pound said Guido had hacked into No 10’s email accounts to get these emails. He was more concerned that you’d got a blog, than the fact that his master’s voice was smearing innocent women.

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    butwhatif says:

    Absolutely totally brilliant (as Dolly Draper might not say).

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    Fenman says:

    Great Easter Sunday Morning-Well done Guido-

    Whilst examining Mc Bride`s `entrails` can we ask why the like`s of Nick Robinson,Adam Boulton and the whole MSM investigatory pack,aware of the actual `poison` distributed by him, paid as a civil servant by the tax payer,never contemplated there might be a story of public interest in him ? Just a thought.

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    grobdj says:

    Isn’t going after Draper like fishing for a sprat just after you’ve landed the barracuda?

    Mind you, the game doesn’t stop just because the other side had a man sent off

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    simon says:

    ‘Good Old’ Stephen Pound doing the rounds has devalued himself even further with his grasp(or not) of what is going on; as well as trying to understand (and failing)what the blogosphere is and who you are and what you do Guido. Judging by his standard over his recent interviews any eedjit can become an MP. Off to read the ‘Sunday Times’ for more revelations on filthy Labour’s antics.

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    Anonymous says:

    I have just discovered this blog – utterly brilliant – I’m hooked. I hope the repellent Brown gets his comeuppance in Spades

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    you notice he doesnt appear to allow comments. whyever not?

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    Dick the Prick says:

    I’d be crafting for a tit wank and maybe some brekkie – gotta prioritize.

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    Anonymous says:

    Congratulations,Guido – fantastic work. My only disappointment is the sudden and complete absence of Harman Pride in the last couple of days.

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    Finnpog says:

    Not yet front page on CNN – but it is on their Europe pages at http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/04/11/uk.downing.street.leaked.emails/index.html

    Well played Guido.

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    Political life would be a lot less fun without Derek Draper in it.

    Despite everything, I still like the man.

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    david kendrick says:

    Guido, you should be on radio and TV more often. Sure, you were piss-poor when you first went on. But you’re getting better and better the more you’re there.

    Keep doing the studio rounds— the more you practice, the ‘luckier’ you get.

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    Set the comments swearbot to use “McBride” instead of “hoon” for 24 hours, as a sort of living tribute to the fellow lost overboard . This could become a theme: “what an utter Derek” next, and then, as the denouement, “man’s a complete Brown” in early summer.

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    Congratulations, and thanks for making my Easter happy. JD.



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    thespecialone says:

    Remember Stephen Pound is the MP who said ‘The people have spoken’…..’Bastards’

    There you go see. A ZaNuLabour apparatchik who doesnt like what the people say! How very NuLabour.

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    Dick the Prick says:

    Come on now – everyone knows it’s all about getting caught – none of this shite is secure, trust and allegiances change etc. The only mistake McBride made was e-mailing it – why didn’t he save it to a USB or just bloody wait until he met Dolly? People do significantly over use e-mail.

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    Anonymous says:

    Craig Murray argues as a former senior civil servant that what they did was a criminal offence because they were acting while in public employ. He seems to have a point. No chance ZanuLab Met police will take it up though.

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    Mitch says:

    Surely this is snotty mc poofs Nixon moment? he must go.

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    Finnpog says:

    “Extreme right winger” Says Hain

    “Nasty Past” says Hain

    Tut tut tut. – Anyone would think that he really didn’t like the phrase “Fiddling his expenses” when all he did which prompted his departure from his ministerial position was to not declare accurately all of the donations (£100k plus) for his deputy leadership campaign which was a clear breach of the rules.

    Maybe he didn’t like being fingered for employing his 80 year old mum on the public purse?

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    Anonymous says:

    Be interesting to see how many of the new labour hangers-on stand by Draper. I see David Prescott is now ‘writing’ on the Labourlist blog. Does anyone know why he suddenly left his job as a PR executive at Geronimo Communications. I suggest it would be worth finding out…..

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    Rebecca says:

    Give what belongs to Caesar to Caesar and what belongs to the public to the public.

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    Calm down dear, it's just an email says:

    How much did you get for these emails from the papers?

    I don’t believe you didn’t get any money, otherwise why would you have bothered waiting for the Sunday papers? You could have published them on your website yesterday.

    This stuff is no different than the Tories pre-1997 with Tony Blair’s demon eyes, Mandelson as the devil and rumours that Gordon Brown was gay. It is now what it is was then, the last desperate gamble by a governing party that’s run out of ideas and has an indefensible record.

    You rabid right-wing nutters should stop being so pious about it though- the New Conservatives and New Labour are fundamentally the same beast.

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    Anonymous says:

    The inaccuracies just show how absolutely useless the mainstream media are. I hope they know better than to start slurring you, they are contemptible enough as it is. The BBC describing you as “conservative”, LOL, I can’t believe they would be THAT incompetent, so it must be intentional.

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    Derek "drippy" Draper says:

    Yeah but no, but yeah but no, know what I mean?

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    Anonymous says:

    The Crown Prosecution Service defines the principles of the criminal offence of misconduct in public office:
    “The elements of misconduct in public office are:
    a) A public officer acting as such.
    b) Wilfully neglects to perform his duty and/or wilfully misconducts himself.
    c) To such a degree as to amount to an abuse of the public’s trust in the office holder.
    d) Without reasonable excuse or justification”


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    Finnpog says:

    Is Gordon employing his usual, tried and tested ‘coping with bad news’ tactic of running away and hiding until the “big boys” go away?

    Clearly this is learnt behaviour which he has practiced agan and again.

    Run off and hide – you’re not wanted.

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    The e-mails constitute a broadcast says:

    Let them eat Kate.

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    Anonymous says:

    Come on Guido, send the emails to Wikileaks or put them on bittorrent! Both can be done anonymously now as so many have the emails, and then everyone can know the truth not just you and a few hacks…

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    Jumbo says:

    Credit due to Iain Dale who writes in the Mail today: “Blogs like that of Guido Fawkes have opened up the corridors of power and shone a light on some very murky dealings.” A true Conservative gentleman, an such a contrast to all those thiving, greedy Labour swine. Sewage the lot of them.

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    talwin says:

    Charlie Whelan, Alastair Campbell, Derek Draper, and now Damian McBride emerging from the woodwork (or at any rate prised out by Guido); what fine examples of the political process. What a credit to democracy. Who knows how much Blair and, now, Brown knew of what their odious functionaries were up to (Jeez, Brown knows nothing about anything!). But it’s not only about knowledge, it’s about chief executives, in our case prime ministers, creating a CLIMATE in which what is expected or allowed is made clear.

    It’s hard to imagine that Nixon nipped down the road to the CREEP offices to have a chat with Donald Segretti about what dirty tricks to employ, but there’s little doubt that Segretti and his bosses knew they were doing what was wanted in order to destabilise the democrats. ‘Ratfucking’ Segretti called the process: and let’s be in no doubt that that, in embryo, was what McBride was about. Sure, some of the tricks probably would have been juvenile in nature (not, however, what we have heard so far) but ratfucking is, by any measure, what was being proposed here to destabilise the Tories. Desperate measures by desperate people in a desperate Labour Party.

    And now the spin continues. Stephen Pound scurrying round compliant TV studious; not, of course overly concerned with McBride’s proto-ratfucking. Oh, no. More a matter now of diverting the focus of the affair by expressing faux-discomfort at how the information’s come to light.

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    Filthy and perverse plot by Brown and his cohort says:

    Not “private correspondence” as a Government computer was used by a Government employee and there was more than one recipient. This was a broadcast publication. Any employer will tell you that no e-mail is private.

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    someone who knows says:

    Draper the chubby cherubic cuckold, should stay within the Labour movement, let him die with the rest of this terminally declining movement. He is really only capable of this kind of innate spiteful behaviour.

    The tragedy though, Draper practicing as a psychotherapist. How in all honesty can a man like this be allowed to take vulnerable human beings into his consulting room? Does 2 years in the US to study and a lot of media bullshit make him credible? sadly yes for many.

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    This all started in Scotland (again) says:

    Let’s see this discussed in court with summons issued to No. 10 personnel, together with unrestricted FOI requests. Heads will roll.

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    talwin says:

    I don’t know (or care) if Guido sold any emails/info to the MSM. But, if so, how else to get important information like this (and it IS fucking important) to a wider audience. Because whatever we like to think visitors to blogs like this are few and far between.

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    Anonymous says:

    And to follow, hopefully, the removal of Draper from the political stage. I assume the campaign to accomplish that will get up to speed soon with further revelations about that gentleman’s so called academic qualifications. No doubt you have up your (voluminous) sleeves more information concerning Draper’s leaving “Berkeley” without a degree.

    If in fact Draper did “practice” in the UK without proper qualifications there must be a Regulatory body who ought to be asked to look into the matter. As a first step Draper should be required to produce evidence that he does hold a proper qualification. If he cannot he may have committed a criminal offence and the appropriate Authorities should then be bought in to deal with that ASAP!

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    Anonymous says:

    New Labour = New VERY NASTY Party :-)

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    Saltaire Sam says:

    While messrs McBride and Draper are undoubtedly childish and foolish, there’s one thing I’m not clear about – how did the email arrive in your inbox?

    It seems to me there are three options

    1 McBride or Draper copied you – they are daft but surely not that daft

    2 There’s a mole in No10 with access to McBride’s computer

    3 Someone (you?) hacked into Draper’s computer, which I thought was illegal

    Perhaps you could put our mind at rest by letting us know the source?

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    Calm down dear, it's just an email says:

    I wouldn’t blame him if he had sold the emails, why shouldn’t he get paid? The point is, he should be open and honest about it- as he expects others to be. I would suggest that had he put these emails up on his site then ALL the Sundays would have published the details and this “important information” would have gotten out anyway.

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    Mack the Knife says:

    Memo from PM to Press Office: Ye bunch of stupid, soft headed numpties, don’t get caught the next time.

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    A few of the usual ‘they are all at it’ comments in an effort to play this down. Well, they aren’t. I defy anyone to find a precedent in British politics to one of the most senior aides to the Prime Minister using his publicly-funded office to peddle sexual lying slurs against his political opponents. Attempts to downplay this are nothing more than blindness to the seriousness of the situation or deliberate spin. If the executive can use the power of the executive to muzzle or destroy legitimate opposition then you don’t have a democracy, you have something else. If political power comes not from arguments on public policy, but from smearing anyone you dares to oppose you, and Labour have routinely done this to their own, then it damages the basis on which our country is governed. We have seen how the culture of lies has spread since 1997 to the point that confidence in our public institutions has collapsed. Now we know that it comes from the very top.

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    Saltaire Sam says:

    So it’s OK to hack into any computer and copy emails? Should make the terrorists’ life much easier

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    talwin says:

    Sam, there’s only you and Stephen Pound who care (or who say they do). Go and get your breakfast.

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    Anonymous says:

    Yes, it’s time for Draper and his narcissistic personality disorder to be kicked out of politics, but he and Damien McBride were working for one very sick and unpleasant man: Gordon Brown.

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    Anonymous says:

    “Voice of Wales ~ Llais Cymru” Surely there is a spelling error here and it ought to read, “Voice of Wales ~ LIES Cymru”.

    Note, the UK permatan market appears to have collapsed following the departure of the Hoon Hain from the political stage.

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    talwin says:

    Well said.

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    Monty says:

    No, they don’t.
    Or would you like to offer some sort of evidence that they do?

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    Anonymous says:

    She’s busy promoting an appearance of all concerned in front of the “Court of Public Opinion” AKA A General Election!

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    Gordon Brown says:

    It wasn’ae me………Damien did it and ran away.

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    grobdj says:

    Guido, according to Hazel Blears (Sunday Times), you are an ‘anti-establishment pedlar of vicious nihilism’

    The compliments just keep flowing, don’t they

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    Anonymous says:

    Is there anyone around Brown who isn’t a sociopath with narcissism?

    Gordon Brown himself, Damien McBride, Draper, Mandelson, Campbell, Watson, Byrne etc etc

    It’s a government of psychopaths.

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    Jumbo says:

    Such long words for such a short-arse non-entity

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    Taxfodder says:

    Not only “don’t like” but like to spin “what the people don’t like” in their favour.

    May have worked pretty well where Westminster could spin or dumb down anything that did not suit their self-serving argument through a pet news media that’s long on opinion and short on balanced news.

    Shouting, “bollocks or downright lies” at your telly screen or waiting four years plus to vote for much of the same at the ballot box was your only realistic recourse.

    But as many in Westminster have begun to realise the blogs bring “the people” a little to close for comfort, and “the people” are undoubtedly on their case!

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    Anonymous says:

    And no doubt our rulers in Brussels in full crapomatic mode.

    A UK general election looming and somehow they have to get the poor, literally, and getting poorer, Irish electorate to reverse their previous referendum “decision” – fat chance methinks given what their pilicies have done to the poor, and getting poorer, Irish.

    And if that happens, whooppee, Cameron as Prime Minister holds the referendum the British People were promised, and denied by NuNastyLab, and calcels the Lisbon Treaty on the back of the overwhelming “NO” vote. When his fellow Europeans object he will no doubt advise they all hold proper referendums and we’ll see what that produces.

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    Julian says:

    Let them know that if they do call someone a “Hoon” in the House that you will give them the Scotch. When they try and claim it tell them they’ve stolen too much from you already in their expenses and that they can just fuck off.

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    Anonymous says:

    Don’t think there is anything that Gordon would rather be doing that be spending his Easter in spades.

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    Jabithew says:

    There are other options;

    4) McBride or Draper CC’d or forwarded to a few of their mates for a laugh, who forwarded to a few of theirs, until it reached someone who didn’t find it funny.

    5) Did the emails contain vulgar language? If so, it is possible that the webmaster would have an abuse-of-service filter. Maybe it could have leaked via the civil service that way.

    I too am curious as to whether these allegations of hacking are true. I had decided that it was just another one of Draper’s fantasies. It may not have been too difficult; Draper doesn’t seem to be the kind of guy with the technical knowledge to use SSL from his mail client for authentication.

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    Anonymous says:

    And to pile additional misery on that I regret to advise you it seems highly unlikely that your distinguished name will feature in the coming New Year’s Honours list, or The Scottish Scunner’s “leaving office” Honours List either!

    But you are clearly riding high in the Court of Public Opinion!

    Bravo! :-)

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    talwin says:

    Jabithew, I reckon No. 4. It’s the human condition.

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    cripple says:

    More power to your elbow! The Guidosation continues.
    ps. a few cheeky sherberts raised in your honour last night.
    well done sir!

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    Anonymous says:

    But this isn’t all that new. If you want an example of the Executive using their power to spin and destroy somebody’s reputation and credibility go and ask Dr. Kelly.

    Ooops unfortunately it’s a bit too late for that – he got the “Country Walk” for his troubles!

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    Julian says:

    Professional conduct as a psychotherapist or counsellor:


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    Anonymous says:

    But easily overlooked! :-)

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    I am so angry that he has had a go at Cameron on any medical treatment he may or may not have received……how low can you go? I have looked after a very ill and dying members of my family and it takes its toll on you so why would he try to pull Cameron’s medical history up knowing full well that looking after his son would have taken its toll on him?……Please………put me in a room with Mcbride so I can make it very clear my point of view and then call an ambulance 5 mins later……
    This is the type of SCUM that NULab has put to the forefront of british politics and it is a crime……arrest Mcbride under the anti terrorist laws for spreading hate literature.

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    LurkingBlackHat says:

    Saltaire Sam says:
    April 12, 2009 at 9:05 am
    While messrs McBride and Draper are undoubtedly childish and foolish, there’s one thing I’m not clear about – how did the email arrive in your inbox?

    A small numbers of other possibilies are:

    4. all other receiptents of the e-mails.

    5. people receiptents forwarded them to.

    6. Lax security on passwords of receipents.

    7. administrators, IT wonks in govenment employ

    8. administrator , IT wonks for all the recieptents of these e-mails

    9. administrators, IT wonks for all intermediate networks and service providers in between.

    10. State agencies routinely monitoring this traffic the recieptents.

    E-mail really is a very unsecure way of sending information.

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    LurkingBlackHat says:

    A small numbers of other possibilies are:

    4. all other receiptents of the e-mails.

    5. people receiptents forwarded them to.

    6. Lax security on passwords of receipents.

    7. administrators, IT wonks in govenment employ

    8. administrator , IT wonks for all the recieptents of these e-mails

    9. administrators, IT wonks for all intermediate networks and service providers in between.

    10. State agencies routinely monitoring this traffic the recieptents.

    E-mail really is a very unsecure way of sending information.

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    Earthlet Nigel says:

    Does the Ginger Minger understand the meaning of nihilism. I doubt it, and her speech writer probably thought it was a good sound bite

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    talwin says:

    Also, as far as I can see, both McBride and Draper are hated by half the Labour Party. There’d be plenty who’d leap at the chance to drop them in it by feeding stuff like this to chaps like Guido. And, then, why Guido? Because he’s got the balls and influence to go with the story.

    And let’s be in no doubt; this is a real story. Without wishing to resort to hyperbole, it’s not a million miles off the genesis of Nixon’s demise.

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    Mark M says:

    Did anyone catch Adam Boulton tearing Dolly Draper a new arse on Talksport with George Galloway last night?

    Absolutley brilliant, Galloway called it broadcasting gold!.

    Listen again on talksport.net – Priceless!!

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    Chavez says:

    And where might I find the transcript of these emails?

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    Anonymous says:

    My guess is the emails were leaked by some Labour party insider with a grudge against either McBride or Draper. These sort of people usually end up knifing each other.

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    Anonymous says:

    Is there an archive article about Lobbygate – 1998, Draper’s central role in the cash for influence scandal during the early days of the Labour Government?

    Might be worth digging up for the review of his political career when he gets sacked…

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    Hugh Jardon says:

    Yep…& in the words of Timmy Mallet it was utterly utterly brilliant!!!

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    For goodness sake if your in politics then you should know that emails are not that safe so dont winge when it all goes tits up……if you were unaware that emails are not a safe way of transferring information then you are in the wrong profession and should shut up or you are going to make yourself look even more incompetent than you already look. Again a deep reflection on NuLab and its standards and the IDIOTS running this country………….oh by the way HAPPY EASTER ALL

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    Anonymous says:

    If the NOTW have got it right then the most shocking thing is that he’s 34 years old, he must be a real piss head alcy to look that bad at 34.

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    molesworth_1 says:

    I think you’ll find Marr’s absence from the air-waves today was part of the game-plan.

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    iusedtaeliveinscotland says:

    Most people have done something that would bring a wee blush to the face, even the PM. When he was Chancellor a Scottish TV news station did a feature on a pamphlet he wrote whilst at uni. Featuring heavily on how to live for free, including hanging out with other students who had a few pennies in their pockets. Apparently he advised hanging on in until one caved in and provided the necessary provender. Heigh ho! Plus ca change…..Any copies out there by any chance?

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    Calm down dear, it's just an email says:

    This is exactly the kind of demented blinkered rambling that gives this blog a bad name. Bernard Ingham- a civil servant- spent more than a decade smearing, not just Labour MPs but also members of the Tory cabinet, on behalf of St. Margaret. Let’s not forget the slurs about politicians from those who Harold Wilson surrounded himself with. It’s not new and it’s never going to go away if we pretend to ourselves that only one side is responsible for it.

    “We have seen how the culture of lies has spread since 1997 to the point that confidence in our public institutions has collapsed.” Yes indeed, the Neil Hamilton, Jonathan Aitken and Steven Norris sagas (there were plenty more) left the country with complete faith in our public institutions! It was sleaze for the Tories in the 90’s, it’ll be expenses for Labour this time around.

    Oh and by the way any suggestion that this is on the scale of Watergate is just silly.

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    Mark M says:

    I was thinking that !!

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    Call me Infidel says:

    You need counselling. Perhaps Del boy can pencil you in as he will have more free time available shortly.

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    Calm down dear, it's just an email says:

    I’m still not sure why you didn’t publish on your website. Not to worry- I tip my hat to you anyway.

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    Notts Al says:

    Great fun.

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    This is probably the worst blog I have ever seen. I have trawled the web and seen blogs in English as well as languages I cannot understand but this takes the biscuit.

    This is the epitome of the cancer at the heart of world society: party politics. In the new world order according to me there would be no political parties with no party leaders and no collusions of clots in Westminster.

    The people would be required to vote according to a new idea: vote for the best person to represent your constituency. Radical, eh?

    In Westminster, all MPs would have to work together to vote for the best person to be the leader of the Commons and Cabinet. The best MPs would become Cabinet Ministers and so on.

    There would also need to be a shake up in the Civil Service too: an end to anyone who thinks they know how to be a politician but only in the background as a Mandarin.

    Digby Jones summed it up the other day when he advised a 16 year old boy on the Today programme to let politics come to him and not to go to politics. The boy had won a public speaking competition and felt that he was then qualified to be a politician. Very William Hague. Very wrong.

    Finally, whistleblowers are one thing but a sniping, snitching low life is something different altogether. I suppose it was the latter who found and forwarded the emails that have started off all of this nonsense.


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    […] continue to assert that Derek Draper has continued to lie about the affair and must go, with Guido reminding him of the Prime Minister’s words Draper has lied from the beginning about this whole affair. His […]

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    anonymouse says:

    A secret is a secret until you tell one other person. It then becomes public knowledge.

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    Mark M says:

    So bad you still had to take part eh?

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    steve lloyd. says:

    Is it just me, or does anyone else think that Steven Pound bears a remarkable resemblance to the android Creighton off of Red Dwarf?

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    Jumbo says:

    Farley’s rusk anyone?

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    W.W. says:

    Why only since 2006, they have been destroying every thing this country stands for since 1997.


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    Anonymous says:

    Jusy read the email content and cannot understand the fuss. The only story I had not heard before was that about Dorries. If the tabloids think these are obscene stories they should hear some of the others about the Tories and Labour.

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    W.W. says:

    Once more the knackered old horse called ‘New Labour’ collapses, surely some one should put it out of its (and our) misery.

    Though Guido, you are building up a list of powerful enemy’s. (Obviously this doesn’t include Draper, he is just an unpowerful enemy)


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    talwin says:

    FFS who said Ingham didn’t spin? Does that mean that the McBride/Draper thing should be ignored?

    OK so it’s not Watergate. But some elements are similar or have the potential to be. Ratfucking is. And I can think of one Blair aide with much of the influence of John Erlichman or the ‘master manipulator’, John Dean. And was not McBride as close to Brown, and Campbell as close to Blair as both Dean and Erlichman were to Nixon?

    But, yes, it was sleaze for the Tories in 1997; also the fact that they were tired and played out, just like Brown and New Labour are now. Yes, this time round it’ll be expenses for Labour; but also sleaze (but on a much grander scale: cash for legislation (or not to legislate) is very different to cash for questions); and an illegal war; and ruining pensions, and creating boom and bust; and screwing up both the education system the NHS; and the erosion of liberties; and allowing immigration to run out of control.

    And being generally incompetent.

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    David Jatt says:

    Well she did pose on the cover of Grauniad Weekend with a calf being smothered by them as part of some odd PR stunt for a Breast is Best campaign. Seriously impressive though they naturally are, whenever I’ve seen her at an event both posture and wardrobe seek to emphasise them more than is fair. Old Derek should be more than busy enough without practising his past it, radioactive political comedy skills. The fact that this self-promoting arse clown is anywhere near the Labour Party serves as quite an existential indictment.

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    Gordon says:

    I’d still find that pleasurable – there’s something special about harpy, I don’t know why but I can’t resist her

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    Gordon says:

    What time in (roughly) was the Guido slot on fivelive? Please don’t make me trawl through the whole show on iplayer

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    David Jatt says:

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    Tom says:


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    Just read the e-mail contents and it’s not anywhere near as bad as the press make out. I was hoping for some juicy gossip.

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    Tom says:


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    Whats that got to do with anything? She is still on TV in teh mornings.

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    JMB says:

    I wonder if one spin-off will be that if Labour does hear of something about a Conservative MP then they might be reluctant to use it because people will think that “they are at it again” and it would not be believed. But perhaps that is just wishful thinking with this sleazy lot.

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    Air Nokia one says:

    Better late than never

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    Anonymous says:

    Can you explain that sentence please?

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    Agent 99 says:

    Salty sam

    Provide the evidence and I mean hard evidence or just fuck off back under the stone you appeared from.

    Over to you I await your evidence ia a reply.

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    Agent 99 says:

    By the way.
    Thats just what this government you support have made law this week recording our emails. and in regard to terrorists and making their life easier just fuck off again. you nulabour apologists have used that line too often and its now meaningless.

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    Anonymous says:

    You are being deliberately obtuse. You know full well that NuLiebour were voted in to put an end to this culture of sleeze. It was one of their most trumpeted promises.

    You will now, I expect, pretend to have forgotten “an end to spin”, “we will be whiter than white”. God, you NuLab toady’s make me sick.

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    Damn it, I’m so sick of this Nu-Lab f**k-w**k that I’m going to state my case, perhaps a little prematurely:
    There is a paedophile ring right at the very heart of New Labour, and it involves Blair and Prescott, that much I am absolutely certain of. Brown is possibly involved too, but if not, then he is/was certainly aware of it, at the very least.

    I have some hard evidence, but so far it can’t be absolutely proved, and so it’s not enough to absolutely nail the bastards. It is known that someone else has video evidence, but they’ve gone abroad, and they won’t come forward with it unless certain conditions are satisfied. I’m trying to get those conditions met, which is very difficult as I’m not really in any position of power to do so, or to put it plainly, I cannot convince them to trust me. They’re scared, and I can’t blame them for that. Even if they trusted me, how can they know for sure that I wouldn’t be compromised by others?

    But damn it, there is a paedophile ring at the very heart of New Labour, I know that much for sure.

    503Lancashire Oik says:
    April 12, 2009 at 6:18 am
    Yeah, and this isn’t a half-arsed attempt to smear Guido’s blog.

    “If you think we’re bad, just look what they’re saying about us”.

    You must think we’re fucking stupid, you cretin. Fuck off back to LiebourLost or wherever else you sprang from.

    508James says:
    April 12, 2009 at 6:45 am
    No, Lanc, I assure you that I am being deadly serious, and that my comment was not meant as some sort of “double-bluff” from a Labour stooge. Guido has my utmost respect for what he has achieved today, and I salute him. What I have written is not intended as any sort of smear (indeed, I don’t see how you have arrived at such a conclusion at all). I detest New Labour, and I’m being totally serious here. Please reconsider.

    549Sir Reginald Titbrain says:
    April 12, 2009 at 11:07 am
    Mr Oik has come to the conclusion because it is an obvious one. Tell us the difference between ‘Cameron has got the clap’ and ‘Blair is a paedo’?
    As it stands there isn’t any, one, the other, neither or both could conceivably be true, and why should we believe you.
    As it stands you are on the level with someone who has just seen a flying saucer and is telling everyone down the pub, who all think you are a loony. Only Martians calling in for a quick half before closing time will redeem your reputation.

    537Member of the Court of Public Opinion says:
    April 12, 2009 at 9:11 am
    Oh please let it be true and please produce the evidence! Labour will be finished for ever.

    551Chris Close says:
    April 12, 2009 at 11:36 am
    There is a great deal of truth in all of this.

    Jeremy Beecham of the LGA,formerly leader of Newcastle city council attempted suicide during the Shieldfield Child abuse scandal in Newcastle in the 90s and this scummy party tried to destroy my career to hide his behaviour.

    5 kids id’d him and he only got off through a ‘deal’ which led to the abusers getting off and getting damages for defamation through G Bindman, another Solicitor and Nulabour luvee……….

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    Good day to bury bad news alert says:

    Guido, can you produce a “Save Derek” T-Shirt? Much as I would laugh if his scalp was also claimed he truly is the gift that keeps on giving for those that despise Labour and all it has become, so lets start a campaign to keep him…

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    Ivor Phartparp says:

    I’m crying.

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    Agent 99 says:

    Timining dear boy its all in the timing for maximum effect and collateral damage.

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    Anonymous says:

    “This is probably the worst blog I have ever seen. I have trawled the web and seen blogs in English as well as languages I cannot understand but this takes the biscuit.”

    Those blogs written in a language you couldn’t understand must have been really annoying! Dork.

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    Rob says:

    In case you did not know Brown is currently trying to form such a state – trouble is he would be pulling all the strings and all politicians would be Labour.
    Speaking of low life’s Dunc whistleblowing this trash deserves a medal.

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    Anonymous says:

    “This is exactly the kind of demented blinkered rambling that gives this blog a bad name”

    Nice try. This blog does not have a bad name except in Labour circles.

    Oh and by the way FUCK OFF

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    Tarquin says:

    Craig Murray may be correct and as a former British Ambassador who was mired in shit himself due to his own antics he should know.

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    grobdj says:

    More Socialist bollocks, otherwise entitled ‘My One-Party State’ by ‘The Great Leader’

    All-butter short-bread anyone?

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    David, that image has seared its way inot my mind.

    If genuine, then, I…, oh, hell! :D

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    Anonymous says:

    no one actually gives a shit anymore about what the ginger chipmunk says or even thinks. Come to think of it no one ever did.

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    Solar Power, I think you’ll find some of them are too obscene to publish, even in the public interest.

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    Anonymous says:

    game set match

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    Anonymous says:

    and Labour were about to slur the opposition wives which in comparison is Ok then is it?

    You are the real TIT and a labour one at that, no wonder you are going to get slaughtered at the GE.

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    Rob says:

    In light of the fact that Guido has done more for the electorate in the last few days than the MSM, who have nearly all prostituted themselves for scraps from Brown’s table, have done in the last year is it not about time to ruffle a few feathers in hacksville.
    Why not have a weekly wall of shame entitled Gordon’s Creep of the Week
    There are lots of candidates Marr, Robinson,McGuire,White,Boulton Peston,Toynbee etc with a photo of the winner along with titbits from their latest vomitworthy article?

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    Calm down dear, it's just an email says:

    If you’d actually read previous posts you’d see that I have been critical of Labour- so your knee-jerk “Labour supporter” jibe is pathetic. I certainly don’t move in Labour circles, or indeed any circles that involve foolish minded people who believe they are the goodies and the other side are the baddies. I prefer a slightly more mature analysis of politics. If you actually believed that Labour was going to “put an end to spin” and would be “whiter than white” then you are extremely gullible. It should not shock you that politicians from both sides lie and smear.

    I agree with much of what you say Talwin, though the Watergate stuff is just too far. I also never suggested the stuff shouldn’t be published, in fact quite the opposite. However, I am arguing for a bit perspective and acceptance that politics needs to clean up it’s act. And that ultimately this kind of McBride behaviour just repels the electorate, so it’s counter-productive for any party to engage in it.

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    apricot bell end says:

    ˙ɟ˙ɟ˙o ˙ʞ˙ɔ˙n˙ɟ

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    And even that line was stolen – from American Democrat spinmeister of the 1960s Dick Tuck, after failing to get elected to the Californian Senate.

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    Anonymous says:

    yep. he looks about 50.

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    Fuck me – I’m 10 years older than McBride, and a bottle of scotch a day man, and even I look healthier than that!

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    Metal Mickey says:


    A man, (presumably) after my own heart. Why don’t we provide them with a one way ticket to North Korea?.
    On second thoughts, shove the lot onto a rusty old bucket and tow same bucket into the Atlantic and use for target practice!!.

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    Labour isn't Working again says:

    What do we know about Pound. He was on Sky last night uttering all sorts of lying inuendoes about Guido being a right wing Tory peddling untrue gossip.

    Like MPs fiddling expenses?
    Like Hain fiddling campaign monies?
    Like Prescott’s antics?

    So is Pound clean enough to to pontificate on TV about Guido?

    Is Pound clean?

    We have a right to know!

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    Kate Garraway's Nipple says:

    Kate Garraway bestiality porn shocker. Shame this wasn’t on the web yesterday, the NOTW would have had a much better front page today!

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    thespecialone says:

    It would get more exposure published in the papers than on this blog.

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    Metal Mickey says:

    ‘Good old Stephen Pound’, is a throw back to the Bliar years when he had his head so far up Bliar’s bum, I’m surprised he could still breathe!!!!.
    He has changed his allegiance from Bliar, to the robot Brown, I guess in the vain hope that there is something in it for him.

    Is he a brownhatter????.

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    Anonymous says:

    when did Leon Brittain change his name to Jeremy Beecham?

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    David Jatt says:

    It is totally genuine sir. She could satisfy several massive herds with obscene ease given her spectacular norkage. That shot was part of the pointless PR campaign below. She’s got to go that extra mile to get in publications other than OK!, TV Quick and whatever else her livestock viewers gawp at and paw. Wonder if she is comforting Dolly himself with a quick snack, in between his no doubt very effective self-administered sessions of ‘therapy’. Must be hard being a late 90s cartoon of a man and a kind of scatological Midas for one’s own cause.


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    David Jatt says:

    He’s worried given that she is carrying the second spawn of Draper her angry décolletage – which is already enough to influence the tides – will swell to the point it smothers Guido himself.

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    Anonymous says:

    Shit – now my brain really hurts. Blears and Guido both think the other is a twat. Both habitually talk bollox so both must be wrong. But all the evidence says both are right. I need to lie down (and I don’t mean in the style of numerous members of the Cabinet and Shadow Cabinet).

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    Anon says:

    What a nasty piece of work this little scrote is. Lies, lies & lies again about his qualifications. Lies, lies & lies again about the emails – I saw him on the Politics Show doing just that – lying to Guido. Lies, lies & lies again about Red Rag, which, no doubt would have been just as much a pathetic flop as that other flagship of Brown’s Labour (mis)government ‘LabourLost’ – sorry, ‘List’, not ‘Lost’ – and boy, is it listing – shortly to sink from view I’d suggest.
    On the off-chance that Mr Drooper has one decent, honourable cell in his body, I’d like to ask him this question, how will he explain his role in Blair’n’Brown’s NuLabour ruination of the UK to his innocent children when they are old enough to ask him about it? Will it be lies, lies, lies again or by then will shame have altered his opinions?

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    Anon says:

    Have to say I agree with you Henry NL, after Guido’s great work prior to the weekend & the results all over MSM today I begin to think that there may be light at the end of the tunnel & it may NOT be an oncoming train! Happy Easter all.

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    Anon says:

    Unfortunately, so true.

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    anon126 says:

    Pound keeps on about hacking as an attempt to divert attention onto Guido. But hacking is a crime, like Ive in my blog, that can bring a six month prison term. Hacking into a government server is against he official secrets act which carries a much longer prison term.

    So Pound needs to prove that a crime was committed by Guido, or he should be sued by Guido.

    then again, Pound is a joke of long standing!

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    anon126 says:

    I believe that Guido did not sell the emails, not that he’d be wrong if he did. By going n record saying he did not sell them means:-

    1) he would not risk the ridicule when it came out.

    2) it strengthens his hand by showing him to be above the sleaze.

    not taking money means that labour cannot attack him because of it. That is a good move for Guido in my opinion

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    anon126 says:

    damn good point. But these freaks are immature and stupid

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    […] Guido Fawkes claimed another scalp assisted by the mainstream media, even if Mr McBride did reign in advance […]

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    Anon says:

    Ah yes, but it was Tony ‘Miranda’ B’Liar who when he came to power said that NuLabour must be ‘whiter than white’ & then proceeded to lie almost every time he opened his mouth. It was Gordon Brown who stood outside No 10 & said that there would be no more spin & then ‘spun’ more times than even Miranda had.

    So it won’t be just because of MPs expenses that this Labour govt become infamous on the pages of history, there’ll also be the small matter of being the biggest liars, of being the most murderous (how many dead Iraquis?) & for their sleaze. All in all a neat little package that should keep them well away from any positions of power for many years to come.

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    Aethelred says:

    This is another nail in the BBC’s coffin too.

    There can be no justification for their abhorrent backing of these malicious nulaber bully boys.

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    Jumbo says:

    Pravda they are and they can fuck off the whole stinking lot of them.

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    George W says:

    “I have trawled the web and seen blogs in … languages I cannot understand but this takes the biscuit.”

    You have awesome judgement criteria dude!

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    Anon says:

    Or by a Labour party insider who just couldn’t stomach the proposed actions of McBride & Drooper. Not all Labourite ‘moral compasses’ are as shite as Brown’s.

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    Jumbo says:

    The disappearance of the Toady (sic) programme with that smug Scottish bleeder will b reason enought for a public holiday

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    Aethelred says:

    Indeed. We are seeing nulaber’s true colours.

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    Anon says:

    Yeah, one of the other papers said he was 35 years old & I thought they’d made a mistake – I’d have put him closer to 55. Maybe this is what being closely involved with Gordon Brown does for you …..

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    Aethelred says:

    Interesting to note that she doesn’t actually disagree with the content, just the delivery mechanism.

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    Anon says:

    May I suggest that you trot over to LabourList & see if you find that closer to your preferred style of blog?

    ‘…forwarded the emails that have started off all of this nonsense.’ I take it then that you agree that the Dolly Draper/McBride approach to smears & lies is an acceptable one? Been comparing ‘moral compasses’ with Gordon Brown have you?

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    Aethelred says:

    In the last century, the last Tory government, nearly a generation ago, may have had the occasional MP experience an extra-marital knee trembler or accept a fiver for asking some innocuous question, but that is nothing compared to the sleaze and corruption of our current nulaber government in this century.

    Lies to take us to war in Iraq.
    Collusion over Guantanamo.
    Collusion in “extraordinary rendition”.
    The unexplained death of Dr David Kelly.
    The action in Afghanistan during which not a single shot would be fired.
    The nulaber “Lords” legislating for the highest bidder.
    The rigged postal voting.
    The disappearance of the voting register.
    The extra homes paid for by the tax-payer.
    The extra bath-plugs paid for by the tax-payer.
    The extra pornography paid for by the tax-payer.

    There are many, many reasons to despise nulaber.

    Perhaps Hazel ‘fucking’ Blears will remember this next time she accuses anyone, who does not have their face up nulaber’s arse, of being cynical.

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    Anonymous says:

    Draper the little shit is running the line that “the emails” were never intended to see the light of day. Of course they fucking weren’t. Why not come out and say whether their CONTENTS were ever intended for circulation. Say it live on TV. Go on. You won’t cos even you can’t lie that much. Byrne that other tosser was also running the “but the emails were for the bin” line, again missing the key point. Fucking twats.

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    Absolutely. Anyhow Del Boy Draper is a truly sad little twerp aided and abetted by the the insufferable KG. They deserve each other.

    That he was the recipient of ‘the e-mails’ says it all. It also shows what a dreadful, useless shower ‘Noo Labour’ are. Mind you watch out as the ‘orrible ‘arriet’s on the way up, and if Brown has a bad summer – which I reckon he almost certainly will, such is the depth of feeling to get rid of the lot of them – she’ll supercede him after Brown loses a vote of confidence, which I predict’ll take place when Parliament returns in the autumn.

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    Poor bloody taxpayer says:

    It has been clear for some time that there are some very nasty people indeed at the heart of our so-called government. Roll on next June. Champagne is on ice.

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    Poor bloody taxpayer says:

    I understand Mr Fawkes offers a full money back guarantee, on the proviso you fuck off and never return. Have a nice day.

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    Agree that he should go. The man has no integrity and the longer he stays, the more he damages the party he says he loves.

    PS: I have just got back from my Easter break where I was internetless and was amused to see this story you have broken dominate the news over my turkey and chocolate eggs. It certainly shows that blogging is now pushing into the mainstream.

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    Matt H says:

    So the rise and rise of right wing Victor Meldrewsim claims another scalp. The right suddenly the bastions of all that’s true and virtuous on the blogosphere and the world beyond. Certainly the right wing media along with the ‘Outraged Of Tunbridge Wells’ like sneer that fuels the tedium in the right wing blogoworld has been successful in many ways but honest intentions. Please. I keep hearing about this crushing defeat from the right to the left on the blogosphere but the question I would ask is ‘Where is this mythical left wing Government that I keep hearing and reading about in the media?’ Surely if there were any ‘honest intentions’ within the confines of the greying values that set 90% of the agenda in our overwhelmingly right wing media then surely this blog and the rest of the Tory media would have the decency to stop spinning the illusion that New Labour have been a left wing Government. Every time I switch on the radio I keep hearing about this left wing Government that courted the city, courted Rupert Murdoch and created the whole 10p tax debacle. Utter nonsense. But because of the conformist nature in our ‘the Revoloution is on sale at River Island society’ and the British people’s astonishing appetite to be patronised at any cost it is no surprise to see a Cameron led Tory Government sleepwalking to power unchallenged, pretty much unscrutinised and now somehow painted as victims of a smear campaign. I’m no fan of Conservative right-wing Labour but isn’t all this getting so desperately one sided? All this talk of smears and yet 99% of the smears I’ve read about in the past year have all been Labour MP’s. Are we really to believe the good ol Tory boys don’t buy into smears or media manipulation? The evidence would certainly point to the contrary. Also the way the media has failed to scrutinise the Tory oppurtunism in calling for inquiries for wars that they supported anyway and allowing a bogus green agenda to be created on a Heathrow airport they would only locate elsewhere is pathetic. Honest intentions? Stop with the comedy. By the way, the success of bloated, middle aged success in the blogosphere is nothing compared to the succes the left has had culturally. From Woddy Guthrie to Dylan, the Beatles to the Byrds, the Clash to the Sex Pistols and the Stones to the Stone Roses all the best shifts culturally have come from the left. You have the blogosphere, page 6 of the Sun, Jon Gaunt and Jim Davidson. Good luck with that.

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    […] than some dessicated worthy with absolutely no sins and, therefore, no experience of real life. Guido broke the story and covers it fully – as do the main […]

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    […] a comment » Guido has done well – uncovering a nasty Downing Street conspiracy to spread malicious and defamatory […]

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    Hmmm, all that cultural success. Pity you can’t tell the millions of people killed at the hands of Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot about “Sandinista” and “The Times They Are A-Changin'”.

    And your over-simplistic analysis of the blogosphere misses the point. A lot of us are just old-fashioned liberals who are sick of the creeping totalitarianism, loss of liberty, hypocrisy and sheer incompetence that have engulfed the country over the last 12 miserable years.

    I used to be a Labour supporter- never a member, but I did vote for them many times. Never again. And looking around the derided blogosphere I see a lot of current Labour supporters feel as disgusted as I and many others do.

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    […] to be concerned about MPs’ dodgy expense claims, or government spin doctors planning to run malicious smear campaigns against their political opponents. I suspect that most of us are far less bothered about a writer’s personal politics than […]

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    Matt H says:

    Yes, with posts like ‘KATE IS PREGNANT GET HER OF’ and ‘You have awesome judgement criteria dude’ to compete with I apologise for any over simplifications. Obviously I didn’t simplify my words enough though for you have failed to really understand any of the points I have made. You have backed up one of my points though with your cliched, page 6 of the Sun style rant about Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot which makes the tired assumption that anyone who has the temerity to think outside of the confines of a failing and creaking ideology is automatically equivalent to regimes that were not even left wing or socialist in any way. They served the minority at the behest of the majority. Much like the world we live in today. I may as well ask you if the starving millions of Africa and Asia care whether John from Financial Services has increased production by 80% and is getting a wopping bonus this year, or to simplify things in case it was too subtle a point, compare Guido and the yawnathon that is the right wing blogoworld to Adolf Hitler and the Ku Klux Klan. Yes the political regimes of Stalin et al failed but so did the aggresive Capitalism that has fallen apart and is only propped up by taxpayers money. Because I won’t except neither doesn’t make me a Marxist. I made it quite clear I’m not a Labour supporter either so please tell me how much more I have to simplify my argument to make it on this tedious blog. And please tell me why the Tories are a better solution and somehow the party for civil liberties all of a sudden.
    Aso, the old fashioned liberals that you are so fond of and are seen as rights of passage today had to be fought for and were undoubtedly helped by artists like the Clash and Dylan who raised awareness by using their platform to raise issues and reflect views that were and still are largely ignored by an increasingly irrelevant establishment. Your views come with the smug notion that they are somehow socking it to some mythical left wing agenda when in reality the right wing media has set the agenda for years and pumped out the same tired refrains that people like you reel off about Stalin and Pol pot. The question is with all the power of such a great, free thinking ideology as Conservatism practically setting the agenda for successive Governments, both Labour and Tory, Why have we failed so miserably? And whose to blame? Apart from single mothers of course.

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    Sam says:

    It should have been clear to the meanest understanding long before 1997 that any prospective govt put in power by the machinations of Mandelson, Gould, Campbell et al would be corrupt to its core, and so it has proven. At least I can honestly swear I never voted for the purile, sleazy bastids. I’ve hated the lot of them as long as I can remember – small comfort! I wonder if comprehensive schools brought about the intellectual rot which led to them being able to pull the wool over so many people’s eyes?

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    Sam says:

    The Left has always believed that the ends justify the means, and has always been prepared to lie in its own cause – remember the two drunk MPs’ libel action against the Spectator? At least in the old days people would resign when caught lying in public life – now they are so brazen in their dishonesty and money-grubbing, there is nothing which shames them.

    And by the way NuLab got into power largely by assisting their friends in the media to invent stories of Tory sleaze. Even if they’d all been true, which they weren’t, they were quickly dwarfed by Ecclestone, Robinson, Mandy, Whelan, and all that has led to where we are now

    Yet millions will go out and vote for these scum again next next time because ‘I/We’ve always voted Labour”. Well, maybe a few fewer thanks to Guido!

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    We in Britain have always been proud of our Pound.

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    Gordon Hickley says:

    McBride was a civil servant on the public payroll. He was not employed by the Labour party. So why was he engaged in party politics?

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    I used to take part in the Independent discussion boards: lots of excellent, clever, witty, educated people on there. Some crackerjacks there too. I see the latter category have moved here. The fact that I was on the Independent board has nothing to do with my politics. Reading my original post should also tell you that I am apolitical and calling me a Socialist or anything else is to be well wide of the mark. I am not a Tory or Lib Dem or Communist or living under any other such label.

    I say that this is a terrible blog and someone says, so bad you had to take part. Erm, how on earth would you know my view if I didn’t tell you? If you don’t like my view, fine; but are you denying me the right to express it?

    Then there the people who respond with nothing but offensive swearing: I did, at least, tell you why I thought it was a bad blog. Those of you who have suggested I leave this comment area have either ignored that or assumed I meant something that I neither said nor meant.

    There are also the people whose spelling and sense of syntax are woeful.

    Any sense of irony, too, is completely lost here.

    One major point that maybe I need to spell out is that the behaviour of people here typifies exactly what I feel is wrong with the blog and with our political society: it is rotten from the core. So these people fall into line and perpetuate the same old nonsense.

    I am well aware that by responding to the unwarranted attacks you have seen will lead to more bile but I doubt I will feel the need to respond to the swearing and offence that it may well contain.


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    Gordon Hickley says:

    And what is your connection to the Labour party?

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    RantingOldGit says:

    I met Draper once in the 1990s. He struck me as a very nasty little shit with slimy hands. I counted it as a great misfortune to have shaken hands with him and felt a sensation not unlike having squeezed a slug. I had to clean myself with a tissue after doing it and the slipperiness would not wipe off. Draper also showed a poor grasp of what makes up good manners as he constantly interrupted his opponent in a debate and would not be silent. The fact that this awful man has been given any kind of role in New Labour after his fall from grace over selling access, not to mention his dubious claims about his psychotherapy training, says a lot about the idiocy of the labour hierarchy.

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    reverend rancidhead. says:

    How unchristian off you people to say and make nasty comments about Gordon, I think that new labour are all wonderful people and should stay in power for ever, sorry, I have got to go back to my cell now as a nice gentleman is coming round with my medication and my strait jacket. God bless you all.

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    George Laird says:

    Dear Mr. Fawkes

    I like your blog.

    Are you aware that the theft of electricity falls under S13 of the Theft Act 1968?

    If as alleged these emails by McBride were written in Number 10 Downing Street then shouldn’t you be asking who is going to pay back the money?

    Who is going to pay back the taxpayers money for the theft of electricity?

    I think the public need the Police to be involved so that the money is recovered.

    Yours sincerely

    George Laird
    The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University

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    […] The Easter Scandal in British politics proves once again that Government does not, and cannot understand what blogs are about. One of Gordon Brown’s closest advisers planned to plant unfounded rumours about opposition politicians and their wives in a phony blog run by a crony. Big mistake. […]

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    George W says:

    “Obviously I didn’t simplify my words enough though for you have failed to really understand any of the points I have made.”

    Rambling and ranting ain’t points.

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    The new labour government, following tony blair’s regime, is irredemiably corrupt in my view – and I supported them originally. We have few people of integrity, honesty, competence and commitment to doing the JOB THEY ARE PAID FOR !!! Not engaging in underhand activities which amount to defamation of character. Whilst Brown dismisses this McBride activity he did this on behalf of, and for the benefit of the labour government – who else?
    This is scurrilous behaviour but unsurprising as Brown has surrounded himself with self-serving acolytes, but ,many labour voters will still support them at the next election. This country deserves – and NEEDS – something better.

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    Niall Crowley says:

    Make him marry Kate Garraway again! That will learn him!

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