Politicians Take Us for April FoolsNew Green Book Insults Taxpayers
Cameron, Clegg and Brown now say they will meet to discuss reforms of MP’s expenses – even though the last set of “reforms” came into force only six days ago on April Fool’s Day. It isn’t hard to see that first and foremost any measure that increases the income of MPs is not acceptable.
Guido’s inbox is over-flowing with evidence of politician’s financial fiddles. High and low, Labour, Tory and LibDem alike. Front bench, back bench, Peers of the Realm, left, right and centre. They are nearly all at it.
Britain is in a recession verging on a depression, millions are hard-up. Yet politicians are becoming millionaires at the expense of the public. How can they explain how someone who has never had a job in the productive part of the economy can become a millionaire? They already have an all-in-package worth some £115,000* a year. Despite already making five times average earnings they still want a pay rise. How can they justify this greed?
This level of looting of the public purse by supposed public servants is grand larceny. It is on such a scale that we cannot possibly contemplate MPs themselves deciding on their own reforms. The Speaker’s fix which saw them change the Green Book’s rules is an absolute insult. How did they decide to tackle MP’s defrauding the taxpayer and claiming expenses that broke the rules? They scrapped the rules. What was once financial fraud now becomes permissable. If you take the time to compare the old Green Book and the new Green Book (the April Fool’s Day reforms) you will see that instead of tightening things up, they have loosened things up. Spitting in the faces of taxpayers who can do nothing because all the lawmakers are at it.
The revised “Green Book” is a licence for larceny:
‘The Green Book 2009′ : A Guide to Members’ allowances
‘The Green Book 2006′ : Parliamentary Salaries, Allowances and Pensions
They must think we are idiots – for them it is “Carry on Fiddling”, except it is no longer a fiddle, it is an entitlement within the rules.
*£115,00 is the pre-tax equivalent of all claimable personal permissable allowances. Do no be confused by MPs arguing speciously that most of their expenses are for staff. That amount is not included in the £115,000 figure. Bear in mind that a huge number of MPs also employ spouses, children, mistresses and cronies.
As the anger grows, The Police become more and more eficient in “controlling” it.
“The Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) said yesterday it was examining statements from new witnesses who have come forward in the last 48 hours. The complaints watchdog is reassessing what action to take after witnesses described seeing riot officers “assault” Tomlinson.”
See the boys in blue crouched, ready to pounce or help the guy?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/apr/06/g20-ian-tomlinson-police-assault
And the media conspire to make it ‘un-news’.
They name the witnesses in that report – can this be right? This could be a murder case after all.
Who gives a fuck
I fucking do.
Well I don’t. Shame the police did not crack a few more heads like the CRS does in France.
You don’t care that a bystander was assaulted by police and then died?
It’s because of people like you that this government has gotten away with so much.
“You don’t care that a bystander was assaulted by police and then died?”
It’s a rumour, put about by assorted lefties, anarchists and other soap dodgers, which has yet to be substantied. It is probably bollox.
What we do know, is that the police who tried to help him were pelted with bottles by the “peaceful” protestors.
The £115,000 figure is just not correct either – some MPs would genuinely be able to claim for some of costs associated with second homes even if under the much harsher HMRC tax regime which applies to mere mortals. Just not right to say that salary is equivalent to £115,000 in all cases.
It’s a bit like those pesky immigrants who have a habit of dying because of kidney failure.
BBC won’t even report this story. No attempt at pretense that they are anything other than a propaganda machine anymore.
Astroturfer….Ashcroft….financial misconduct….you are all stupid….
Reassuring to learn that those who know where the bodies are buried are coming forward at last.
For the moment, I do hope that there are many sleepness nights in store for those who have stolen our taxes and insulted our votes.
He might mean they are worried about violent retribution, and they probably should be.
Of course.
Ever the naif, I assumed that any such sleeplessness might stem from a troubled spirit – a failure to ‘do good’. The thought that such people might be discommoded by fear of physical harm – cowardice, never occurred to me
I thank you and apologise to Plato.
I’m just off to chuck a brick through by local MP’s constituency office window.
Margaret Beckett caught claiming expenses for a home she rents out:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1167864/Now-Margaret-Beckett-claimed-expenses-constituency-home-renting-flat.html
Your working assumption is that they have a conscience.
I see no evidence for that.
No sweat – and if only they had a conscious we wouldn’t be here at all.
Any bets on who is the next piggy to be exposed by the MSM?
As Mr Fawkes says – he has a tumescent Inbox – so there’s no lack of content.
Bin dere, dun dat!
But not with as much style as I did, you Hoon!
I holiday in a caravan, I’m one of the people.
or, more exactly, dun dat, dun dat, dun dat
Isn’t it delicious that the MSM are currently using a photo of Hoon which makes him and Sir Fred look like twins! A pair of Hoons!
AJC
Hoon’s Lib Dem rival sums it up with the quote:
“What really galls me about it is that his main home in Derby is still miles away from his constituency. Ashfield residents want someone representing them who lives locally. When he is claiming for three properties, you hope at least one is in the constituency.”
http://www.thisisnottingham.co.uk/homenews/Geoff-Hoon-criticised-MP-expenses-row/article-874092-detail/article.html
We deserve high pay and perks, otherwise you ignorant plebs wouldn’t get such high class leaders as us. We are having to cope with a global recession that started in America. It wanae us. Anyway it’s the capitalist system, innit?
That’s true, they do. You’re right that they’re “nearly all at it” and no Party is exempt from scrutiny. It’s because the Rules allow it; nothing they do is outside the rules; they write and police the rules themselves. The Green Book needs to be torn up and re-written – preferably by a member of the public.
A part of me wouldn’t mind if we were governed responsibly but when we’re taxed to b*ggery, with sweeping powers for any tom, dick or harry to intrude on our privacy it’s beyond a joke. Even a bear of very little brain can see that this can not continue. Cameron? Are you listening?
Definitely maybe, not at all.
Well no, actually you awful prole.
Like it.
You are not the real Cameron, you are a lefty imposter.
David would not have “prole” that’s a lefty word.
David would have said “pleb”.
It’s people like you that make this site so funny.
I thought you should know.
David Cameron would read this not hear it.
If he did that is.
Cameron? Are you listening?
no evidence of that so far – he’s a liberal democrat…..
Remind me Guido, how do you become an MP?
You do a deal with me.
Interested?
Not really – you’re too nice and kind and honest and scrupulous to pull it off
He can pull mine off if he likes
Whatever the rules, I cannot help thinking that many of these claims amount to obtaining a pecuniary advantage through deception which is, I presume, still a criminal offence.
Maximum penalty of 14 years. But there’s also a good case for downright theft.
Theft act ’68 – now superceded by The Fraud Act 2006:
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2006/ukpga_20060035_en_1#pb1-l1g2
Sections 2,3 and 4 are probably appropriate.
We are the Stupid ones for putting up with the lab/con/lib crap. And no doubt we’ll all trundle off to the G.E and bote for the shit to continue.
No, I’m not voting LibLabCon.
Guido, are you any closer to getting the full unadulterated list of expenses?
Have had no contact. £10,000 on offer…
Poor fella has probably been ‘disappeared’ by now.
Probably went ‘for a walk in the countryside’, a dangerous activity for dissenters these days
Are you any closer to that private prosecution?
Why would the fella take £10k for the whole lot, when he’s making a mint spinning the lot out to the Sundays, receipt by receipt?
Good point. Imagine if you were this person, and you were giving them away for about £5k each, for example. If there’s, say, 300 MPs out there with dodgy expenses and you give one out a week to a Sunday paper, that’s £1.5million he could make.
If this logic is correct, it’s no wonder Guido’s having little luck with it!
The smell of Jacqboots is all over this.
Mmmmmm… Nice!
Erghhhhh
eau de kebab.
They all deserve something like THIS:
A look ahead for Jacqui Smith
Slowly Jacqui Smith woke up. It had been a long day before plotting how to use the Civil Contingencies Act, the Regulation and Reform Act or some other piece of legislation that they had said they were never going to use when it was enacted to do away with the need for the impending 2010 elections. They were going to lose these elections, the polls had been saying this for years, so the elections were a problem and had to be got rid of. She was sure that the electorate would thank them for it, the ones that counted anyway.
She had so many residences now…
Go read the rest (if you can stand it) at:
http://strange_stuff.blogspot.com/2008/04/look-ahead-for-jacqui-smith.html
Enough! We had to read her sickening ‘justification’ in the Sun Tel yesterday, where she decided to swap the spade for a JCB. More first class advice from her office manager I expect, having taken time off from sending flurries of self-conragratulatory letters to the local rag. More good value out of the taxpayers’ £40K no doubt.
God, how these bloody people make me puke…someone DO something – PLEASE!
The post goes on…
Her naked body was suspended and spread wide by a set of leather straps. Beneath her squatted a complicated machine built from chromed hydraulic rams supplied by black rubber hoses.
Now will you go and read it!
Only if you promise there’s no pictures, Pete ;o)
What happened to Jacqboot’s DNA by the way?
it’s smeared all over her hubby’s strap on
It’s her strap on – I like it that way.
It’s OUR strap on…by that I mean the taxpayer probably paid for it…..
Whatever the rules, I cannot help thinking that many of these claims amount to obtaining a pecuniary advantage through deception which is, I presume, still a criminal offence.
Or misfeasance in public office
What I want to know is why the hell don’t the media manage to put two & two together. In my view Brown has been caught bang to rights as a sleaze king:
https://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/33991/Brown-in-sleaze-row-over-London-flat-claim/
Tory MP Greg Hands wrote to standards watchdogs about Mr Brown’s claims of up to £20,000 a year for a Westminster flat while he also had use of a grace-and-favour Downing Street apartment.
Then my favourite Web page from the telegraph where Brown effectively cashed in on at the top of a property boom and took money out of the flat the public paid the interest on whilst Brown was a minister:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1556730/Flat-deal-will-mean-tax-savings-for-Brown.html
Shame for the country Brown manages his personal enrichment from the state better than the nations finances
Completely on a tangent, but I believe the most ironic story of the day is this:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/apr/06/council-chief-executives-pay
It’s an article in the Guardian about the excessive salaries paid to council chief executives; the same kind of people who probably got their jobs via adverts in… the Guardian. I notice the story doesn’t have a space for comments (to be fair, it’s a wire service report, but still).
A more diligent commentatory that I could go through the Guardian’s current lot of job listings, and pick out those which pay more than £100,000. I bet that, if each of these jobs was eliminated, Britain would carry on as if nothing had been lost.
“A more diligent commentatory that I etc” – a more sober *commentator than I* would make more sense.
http://jobs.guardian.co.uk/searchjobs/?keyword=&industry=166&within=25&town=&salaryfrom=80000&salaryto=1000000&Search.x=50&Search.y=6
Jobs over 80k – the big heap will go live tomorrow.
When I comment elsewhere on this people say I’m making it up – show them the evidence and they say I’m reading selectively.
The turkeys are voting for Thanksgiving and Christmas to be scheduled monthly.
You’re making this up, aren’t you?
You are making the point forcefully and skillfully, Guido. The problem is, you will have to say it over and over again, using the same words, different words, different arguments, quoting new examples of avarice and greed each time. Our politicians are incrdibly thick-skinned, and the bubble Westminster appears to be very well sound-proofed. If this campaign is successful we might actually get a political body that one may, just about, be able to respect, or is just just me being hopelessly naive and idealisti?
YES.
Agree with your analysis and share your hopes, JS, but scepticism bordering on cynicism seems the only sensible standpoint now.
Know what this reminds me of? The last decade or so of the Bourbons. A governing class famous for its extravagance pressing ever-harder on the populace. G Brown as Louis XVl, drunk with his self-importance and Jacqui as M Antoinette playing at milk-the-taxpayer-maids in her specially-built play-farm.
Trouble is, there was only one way that the contemporary French could see to remove them, via revolution. Revolutions are notoriously costly in every way and too often do no more than replace one bunch of cruel thieves with another.
To shift the metaphor, if getting rid of the Czar meant getting Lenin and then Stalin, it’s arguable that the average serf would have been better off if the Romanoffs had continued in power.
Not sure of the relevance of all that today, though the idea of a Robespierre cutting a swathe through the current British political class has undeniable appeal but the question remains – what the hell can we DO about it?
It’s the last days of the Bourbons all over again.
A self-important king presides over a court that ignores the people while pressing them ever more deeply into poverty. The public purse is plundered ever more shamelessly.
It took Mme la Guillotine to sort them out. What do WE do NOW?
(The thought of a modern-day Robespierre trying and guillotining the entire Labour party, one after the other, is beguiling…..)
A long, long time before the French Revolution (in 1521, to be precise), there was a machine called the Halifax Gibbet.
The Lord of the Manor of Halifax was entitled to try and execute felons for thefts of over 13d halfpenny – about 5 1/2p in new money.
These Hoons have stolen hundreds of thousands as much – the original blade is still on display, and I’m sure that the law has never been repealed.
Anyone know where I can buy the Lordship of Halifax?
(Apologies for double posting – first one seemed to disappear so I wrote the second.)
Aproposofwhat – you are on to something, I believe. To acquire the Lordship of Halifax, approach the Lord of Levy. It seemed to work for others.
Haven’t Lloyds TSB got it, as part of the HBOS buyout?
I like asparagus.
me to
I don’t. But I love bananas.
I like cock.
Some custard with your cock Screaming Lawd Butch?
Someone in authority is supposed to check and approve MPs expenses.
Who is this and why have they not been doing their job?
“They must think we are idiots”
You’re not quite understanding it, Guido, if that’s how you’re still thinking about it.
They don’t care about people knowing/understanding; they don’t think that we’re idiots; they know that they can do it forever if they’re all in it together.
They don’t think we’re stupid; it’s just that they know that we can’t do anything about it if they’re all in it together.
It’s no different to being a low-level staff member of a big company whose directors are driving the company into bankruptcy by siphoning off all the pension money and company profits into their own accounts; you can report them as much as you want but nobody who’s able to do anything about it will ever listen because they’re all in it together.
Anon good point. No shame either. Guilt neutralisation by numbers. Moral morons is what they are.
and according to the Indy today Blair IS going to get the EU Presidents job – un. fucking. believable !!!!!!
YEP the grinning bliar is rewarded for his dishonesty. Nice example to set.
Looks to me as though the “leak” in the fees office has become a “waterfall”, perhaps special attention should be paid into who knows who in the fees office and who may be so bitter and twisted as to want it all to come out.
lizzy
Guido, I have a spare angle bracket which please deploy to stop all this italic nonsense. Italic being foreign, of course. Here it is: <
As for these canutes, they’re completely beyond the pale. Feed them to the pigs.
Got something against pigs, Dennis?
His cock usually,
OT. I was sitting at my desk, feeling a bit sorry for myself when I decided to pull myself together and see what was out there in the way of “self help”. It was not long before I blundered across an interview in the Times (22.03.09) with a self-styled psychotherapist, one Mr Draper. It sounded quite promising.
“His new self-help book, Life Support: A Survival Guide for the Modern Soul, is full of common sense and enjoys a warm authorial tone of understanding.”
But then:
“At Manchester University, his bedroom was decorated not with the Athena poster of the tennis player scratching her bottom, but with a poster of [Roy] Hattersley.”
Oh, dear. By the end of the article, one is left with the impression that this Draper, for all his warm authorial tone of understanding, is something of a laughing stock.
As a youth, I tossed myself off to that poster – NO! not old spitting Hattersly but the girl scratching her tight arse.
Oh, I dunno – with all that slobbering, Roy’s quite moist in the mouth.
I’m just getting on with the job.
Parliamentary expenses = Hush Money
Turning a blind eye whilst Britain is dismantled.
MP= Millionaire Parasite.
Come on folks look at who we make knights of the realm – The likes of Frank Goodwin and Richard Branson.
What do you expect from them in parliament given that?
And will they strip Branson of his knighthood now that an insider reveals that he was committing long term serious tax fruad before the 1971 instance when he was caught and lied when he said it was the first time? See this new story and Branson expose:http://bentsocietyblog.blogspot.com/
Frank Goodwin, who he?
And why did the insider leave it for 28yrs???
Plato – The story in a much abridged form was first published in a book by Professor Dick Hobbs – called “Bad Business”. But realising the Importance of the tale when Jock explained it over a few drinks last year I finally persuaded “Jock” – a retiring type who has gone straight after years of criminal activity and prison terms – to go into more detail and to actually name names. Jock actually does not blame Branson for what he did – but he wants to show how it is necessary to break the law in order to make it big in business.
In effect then this story shows that rather than just defraud the country of £15,000 of purchase tax fraud in 1971 – as the official Branson story goes – Sir Richard actually was at it two years earlier and relied upon systematic and long term fraud to establish the Virgin empire. This is a major news story broken on a blog site. It raises serious questions about the British establishment on the back of the MPs expenses row.
This is a very old storey and was exposed by author Tom Bower in a book quite some time ago. The revelations are not new and were quite shocking when first exposed. We have a long tradition in this country of selling knighthoods to complete shysters. No honour required only cash up front and no questions asked.
Ted – are you sure? Here we are talking an extensive pre 1971 tax fraud. As far as I know the Phonodisk fraud story has NEVER been made public before. The story in the public domain is about 4 cases of vanloads of records that were meant to be sold in Europe that were not. The blog is about somthing 2 years earlier…and has never been published to my knowledge before.
Branson. VAT fraudster going back a long way. Thieving is in his DNA.
Branson has shafted almost every business partner he has ever had.
Tom Bower has his number. The bearded thieve/conman did not take Bower to court for making ‘libelous statements’. Funny that because Branson uses the lawyers to intimidate.
Just sorry the fucker didn’t go down like a lead balloon when engaged on one of his stunts.
Would that be one of his cunning stunts?
Ever since we ran with the 1969/70 Phonodisk Purhcase tax scandal (http://bentsocietyblog.blogspot.com/) we’ve been told its an old story – but the oldest story we can find is the 1971 Purhcase tax fraud case where he was fined £56,000 and escaped prison because the tax men believed it was his first offence. Has anyone here really read about the Phonodisc connection before?
Watch your step.
If you call me Jabba the Hut again I’ll blow smoke in your face.
Nice!
Guido
Could youexplain the £115k, sounds a bit like Daily Mail type figure,from poo McKay, the journalist with very little brain
To be fair only Caroline Spelman and I have broken the rules. But we’re Conservative so we can’t help being chiselling cheats.
Here here to that.
Spelling 2/10.
Must try harder.
Fred ….frankly.
Nice holidays too.
Quite a good wage for having no performance measures.
IFS tells Brown that despite his “successful G20 Summit”(?) we can’t afford anymore fiscal stimilus period – the UK is bust -Prime Minister and it’s all largely down to you !!!!!!!
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/f7450dd2-228b-11de-9c99-00144feabdc0.html?nclick_check=1
Guido
They don’t care whether we are idiots or not – they just want the money! They will carry on until the political cost is so high they can’t avoid it.
Most of the New Labour cabinet think there’s a real risk they’ll be out come the election – it’s a certainty in the case of Jackboot Jacqui. They are like Clive of India, their only dilemma is how to maximise their “take” in the time they have left.
“The only way to true, lasting inner happiness is Transcendental Money” (S. Milligan)
There won’t be an election. That’s why they don’t care. That’s why they’ve brought in the Civil Ciontingency Act, et al.
Get used to it.
I’m glad to see that immediately below this post there was an ad reminding us exactly how reasonably priced washing machines are at John Lewis….
Guido -
Here’s a challenge for your site.
Publish a list of the 646 MPs.
Against each name indicate whether, in your personal opinion, he or she is “at it” or not.
No need for any supporting evidence: your word alone is of course good enough to convict.
Put your money where your mouth is!
How about it?
That’ll be 646 ‘at it’s then.
Job done. Move along, little man. Move along.
Not too much longer, so fill yer boots while you can.
I’m not forced to give miney to the TPA. I am forced to give money to the parliamentary piggies – it’s called taxation.
re expenses Ken Clarke to Andrew Marr yesterday “So two thirds of them, I’m quite sure are doing nothing improper at all – at least two thirds, I hope. ”
Mr marr missed this open goal – as have our newspapers. Doesn’t this beg the headline “Clarke admits one third of MPs act improperly with regard to their expenses” Will someone ask the mighty Ken what they do that is improper and what he would do about it – or perhaps ask David Cameron to comment on this?
Totally Agree
Oh do come on! Since when has Marr asked questions which might embarrass his masters?
Poor Andrew is married to a total left wing nutter who will cut off his monthy sex bout if he asks awkward questions about NuLabour or their destructive handling of the current disaster
Vote for anyone but the established three.
Seconded. It’s the only way WE win.
It appears that the conservatives and Libdems arent making a fuss, almost as if they’ve got something to hide.
Is there a single MP not sitting in a glass house right now, willing to throw stones. An independent perhaps?
Derek Conway?
Is there an honest MP in the house?
No. The man in the White Suit the very honourable Martin Bell stood down in disgust at what he observed in the House of Shame
As we all know the ‘piss taking’ runs deep in the public sector – our MP friends are just the public face if it.
Take the great and the good of our esteemed armed forces. I acknowledge that it’s an old story but the ‘school fee’ bung is even more offensive in light of current economic circumstances and our inability to win a fucking raffle militarily!
Take this example, it has been suggested to me that an ‘admin’ officer located at a well known command base in a leafy home county gets £50k per annum in school fees for his kids who believe it or not are at school just 2 miles from his office and wait for it 9 miles from the family home! They even get to go home at the weekends! Tally-ho indeed!
Pop the usual ‘jolly’ pension on top and hey presto you get a cracking package with a fraction of the risk associated with the equivilent private sector position. You’ll never get shot at in Waitrose!
Don’t tell him Pike!
I’m sure it does happen at all levels; my mum used to work for the council and was so pissed off by people being able to take 6 months off fully paid for having a broken toenail or a scratch from a stinging nettle that she left pretty soon after she joined; she said it was soul destroying watching how badly things were run, how stupid people were, how nothing ever got done, how much waste there was, and realising how the vast majority of our tax money is just thrown straight down the toilet by negligent idiots who would never ever be able to find/keep a job in the real world.
It certainly does happen. We have some friends who are both civil servants, he obsessed with his pension (only 11 more years to go…) and she with moving out of London to a regional office but losing that magic London allowance and pension kicker..
She did her back in a few years ago and was signed off sick on full pay. Saw them a few weekends ago, she’s still off sick with a “bad back” (she looked fine to me!) and by my maths has been off for around 3 years. Good work if you can get it!
It is endemic. A young friend of ours is one of 50 grads and postgrads taken on by a large govt dept a year ago. The recruitment process took nearly a year (!!!) and now he’s been in the job for some time he is utterly fed up.
There is absolutely no work for them to do. They do little more than turn up, read the papers, mess about on the internet, chat and go home.
Who on earth is presiding over this mess?
Redwood said on the radio the other day that he would do no more than freeze public sector recruitment. By our friend’s experience, a deep cut in head-count might make more sense.
I think that given the grotesque behaviour of our MP’s and comparing it with a few perks given to the armed forces in the situation they are presently facing is a cheap shot and below the belt. After all the above “Admin Officer” can be posted anywhere at the drop of a hat and can suddenly find himself in the middle of one of Labours pointless illegal wars.
There’s no shortage of former Admin Officers at Headley Court who I suppose you would argue are all taking the piss claiming their massive away from home subsistence allowances having only lost a few limbs or the sight from their eyes. No consideration for the taxpayer and hard would families any of them just claim for anything that’s going” They then rob hard working families of their places in the NHS waiting list.
Sorry Eileen but I really think you ought to find a more suitable public sector target for your attacks heaven knows there’s no shortage of them.
Agreed, Ted.
But if you realise that there are at least seven REMF’s, who never ever see combat or even have a sniff of a combat zone, for every frontline combat soldier then that puts an entirely different complexion on the matter.
Socialists love other peoples’ money, and since it cost them no effort to earn it, they don’t feel any pain at wasting it.
Ist line of section regarding Principles:
“Claims should be above reproach…….”
Excuse me while I change my piss-soaked underwear.
Jobsworths are the same the world over…
Rescuers have launched a desperate race against time to save hundreds of people trapped in the rubble of their homes after an earthquake killed 92 in Italy this morning.
Entire blocks of buildings collapsed as residents slept. Up to 50,000 may have been left homeless, officials say.
An Italian scientist predicted a major earthquake around that weeks before disaster struck, it emerged today.
But Giocchino Giuliani was reported to authorities for spreading panic.
Vans with loudspeakers had driven around the town a month ago telling locals to evacuate their houses after seismologist Gioacchino Giuliani predicted a large quake was on the way, prompting the mayor’s anger.
Giuliani, who based his forecast on concentrations of radon gas around seismically active areas, was reported to police for ‘spreading alarm’ and was forced to remove his findings from the Internet.
And your point is what exactly?
Mayor in deep shit hopefully.
Has Paul Judge been expelled from Party?
He has his own party.
Anyone worked out what Prescott trousered , apart from me, that is? All I got was got was a cocktail sausage.
Two jags and about 5 houses so far.
All this talk recently has got me thinking, If Banks, Politicians, Councils et al have to pay for the best individuals, maybe our country would better be left in the hands of the village idiot, after all anyone with half an ounce of intelligence is always going to go for the best deal for him/her self. It is obvious to me now; intelligence + power = corruption therefore: power (without any side effects) = corruption – intelligence, corruption without intelligence most of the time means the village idiot in my experience. No wonder it’s all gone wrong!
Ha ha! No one can touch us
Karma – we’ll get them all in the end
http://www.johnpilger.com/page.asp?partid=528
Anatole Kaletsky getting very worried in The Times today. Had to obfuscate his way through an ‘explanation’ of Austrian Economics. The powers that be are very worried about the propagation of these ideas.I relish Mr.Kaletsky’s squirming.Things are looking up indeed.
He’ll really squirm once inflation gets going properly.
“…these are based on concepts of selflessness, integrity,
objectivity, accountability, openness, honesty and leadership”
It’s difficult to know whether to cry or piss myself laughing.
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Most patients are NOT treated earlier, that is if their Acute Trust or PCT has the money or authority to treat them at all. Meaures have shifted because the NHS has been driven by a huge number of (often conflicting) targets which means that the figures are spun to make them look like they are being achieved e.g. waiting times are down because you have to wait longer for an appointment (which is when the clock starts ticking), practices won’t make appointment more than two days ahead so people have to scramble for slots etc.
I talk to the medical profession every day and boy are they peed off. A poll published recently in GP magazine showed that even most of those GPs who used to have sympathy for Labour do not support them any more.
When the Jacqui Smith Porngate episode came to light, Toenails provided a novel explanation.
He said MPs’ expenses should be seen as ‘allowances’ and we shouldn’t be so beastly to our fragrant, hard-working Home Secretary.
Move along now. Nothing to see here.
Pungent I think you meant.
That’s how he explained the behaviour. He didn’t, I think, seek to condone it.
Explanation, nothing. If, as reported, “He said MPs’ expenses should be seen as ‘allowances’ “, then he is certainly condoning it. Who the hell is he to tell us how things ‘should be seen’?
Smith – how can she claim her main home is her sisters residence, when she is registered to vote in her constituency? She has to register to vote for her main residence. Isn’t this a criminal act? Lying AND fraud?
Note that Hoon explained his occupation of Admiralty House as a move to save the security costs of his living in his London home. That should help J Smith no end.
But it will make no difference: John Lyon is certainly no Elizabeth Filkin.
AJC
Hi there Derek! Haven’t you got friends at your own blog you could talk to? How about one of your patients then? No?
Wife not interested? You could give Mandy a ring – I’m sure he’d talk to you.
What about your mates that you borrowed that money from? You could pretend you’re going to pay it back – that might pique their interest.
Back off The Man. It’s all getting a bit “pitchforky” over at his place. Some gobby Hoons are being rude to a cabinet minister. I don’t think it was the response which was expected.
Dr Draper will not respond personally to comments posted by disrespectful internet trolls.
His latest book is presently enjoying outstanding sales success despite the present recession and it would appear that many hard working families are anxious to obtain a copy. I would suggest that you do the same as Dr Draper writes at some length on the subjects of bitterness, frustration and dealing with the discontentment of under achievement.
I don’t read no books
I don’t need you patronisation
I’ll just bite ya fuckin’ ears off
Then I’ll go and turn Draper into a balloon elephant
Totally agree! I must also commend you on your support for our MPs who should be allowed to claim as much as they like and more.
Totally agree! I must also commend you on your support for our MPs who should be allowed to claim as much as they like and more.
I can only assume people are buying the book because they either need something to put on the fire – energy bills are pretty high these days – or they need something to wipe their arses with. And Draper’s smug face fits the bill nicely either way.
Harman Pride – you are the funniest thing on this site, you always give me a chuckle.
It is SO obvious you are just winding us up – ‘hard working families are anxious to obtain a copy’.
Genius.
hard wanking familes need the sink how else cant we rob th taxpayer ?
stop it derck i have a husband or to
but you sucked my little willy other night
was that you willy lol
Reminds me of Belinda.
do you have a partner?
harman i love you
how did the 10p mess come about then ?
You’ve overcooked it this time. You are a piss-taker & wind-up merchant.
If Draper is a doctor then I don’t much care for his bed-side manner
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Nice one!
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Can I claim this with my Parliamentary allowance I can’t find it in the Green book anywhere? I would like to send my son Freddie whose been sponging off my Parliamentary allowances and Cat Protection League expenses for the last 15 years. It’s his entire fault that the voters in Old Bexley have given me the shove, the greedy little gits turned out just like his grasping father.
They’re all honourable surely.
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does anybody know of a cabinet minister who is NOT fiddling their expenses?
Labour = steal from the working/middle classes
There are many honourable Cabinet Ministers in the present Government who are simply on behalf of hard working families doing their level best to deal with the consequences of the present world economic downturn. Our very successful economy was dealt a cruel blow by the recession which started in America in the summer of 2007. Voters should not be unduly alarmed by the hysterical stories being perpetrated in the press as regards MP’s expenses most of which are both out of context and extremely exaggerated. A small handful of members have made unintended and very much regretted errors but new rules to be announced by Gordon Brown in due course should put an end to this relatively minor issue. The problem for David Cameron may well be very much larger but I do not want to turn this into a party political dispute. The real story is of course the magnificent way in which Gordon Brown dealt with the G20 summit setting out a road map for world economic recovery utilising his enormous knowledge accumulated during his very successful stewardship of the UK economy. Voters should rest assured that the economy is in very good and safe hands.
HP – almost worthy of Comical Ali at his best.
Now fuck off and die, there’s a good troll.
Indeed! It seems to be well in the hands of Mr Timney who’s getting on with the job .
This is parody? Right?
I mean no one is that seriously stupid. Are they?
I think the question we all want answered is:
How much is greasy Keith Vaz troughing? And how many members of his family has he got employed?
and probably half of Pakistan with them.
I’d be taking a serious stare at Pegseller Flint o’ the Lucky Heather.
And yet politicians are still baffled as to why the odious BNP are on the rise.
“We are intensely relaxed about people getting filthy rich” – Mandy in October 1998
Guido, I have actually come across an MP who HASN’T got his snout in the trough! Worthy of wider publicity to show how it should be done?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/5104564/Meet-Westminsters-cheapest-MP-Philip-Hollobone.html
Didn’t he go to the right school?
He must have been off sick the day they were talking about scams that MPs could pull off on expenses.
Still, it’s evidence at least one MP isn’t treating us like fools. Are there any more?
Thank you for bringing me up date on my neighbouring MP I sometimes see him on the train joining the plebs carriage always scribbling on various sheets of paper using his time usefully on his consitiuents problems. I wish there were more like him.
NHS is a mistake
David Cameron he likes me.
The NHS begat the fucking welfare culture we have today. Hope Cameron is listening.
National Death Service My other blog.
Here’s a small mission for you:
Search the old Greenbook for
“Retail Prices Index” and RPI.
Now search the new one.
Funny eh?
What with RPI being 0% last month…
Come on HP, show more balance. You should also boast how much more quickly you can kill C Diff patients now with your new standards in place..
“All I got was got was a cocktail sausage.”
I’m surprised you even got that with Prezza around.
Here’s an idea… since the ACA goes mainly to pay mortgage interest on an MP’s second home, why not index it to BoE base rate? 90% saving instantly, as against 5% a year ago, it’s just 0.5% now.
I see the Robinsons (DUP) are complaining that the Conservative Party’s ‘sleaze department’ are doing the UUP’s work for them by raising the issue of their £650000 annual family fortune courtesy of the taxpayer.
Cant Guido make a few calls to DUP HQ?
(given Iris Robinson’s penchant for shouting her mouth off it might be well worthwhile)
Both Smith and Hoon have claimed to have done everything according to the rules….. but we all know who makes the rules. Its like letting criminals make or repel laws…….. ohhhh errrrrrr ummmmmmm……..
The fun has hardly started. See Jackie Ashley in today’s Guardian:
“You might think that after the Jacqui Smith pay-movie story and multi-homed minister Geoff Hoon we must have plumbed the depths of “politicians on the take” stories. You’d be wrong. Tens or hundreds of thousands of claims by MPs are shortly to be released publicly. Most are unexceptional and within the rules. But according to plugged-in government sources, some are “awful, just worse than you can imagine” and likely to destroy careers.”
Well what a surprise – look who also is at it…
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/gordon-brown/5114895/Gordon-Brown-claims-more-than-17000-in-second-home-expenses.html
HOONS the lot of ‘em – bring on the fucking revolution !!!
A squeezed out fart of a story.
Of the £17000 mentioned, the following suggests he spent over £12000 on transport.
http://www.parliament.uk/documents/upload/HoCallowancestravel0708.pdf
And why would a Chancellor of the Exchequer, who has limos and police protection everywhere he goes, need to claim for transport?
Something is very wrong here – and I think it’s you and McBust.
188 … well if you want to bark up the wrong tree go ahead.
If you could be bothered reading: Over 6 grand in family rail, over 6 grand in rail and airfares.
Do you rekon he didnt actually go to Scotland on any scheduled planes?
LIB/LAB/CON = Hoons
They are all agents of the same private corporation.
I HATE them all
POLITICIAN is a word that deserves a place on the very last page of the Oxford English dictionary, with a special disclaimer on the previous page warning readers not to open ‘Pandora’s Box’ unless thay have been subjected to a full medical, particularly a blood pressure test
POLITICIAN has become a word synonymous only with THEFT, LIES, DECEPTION AND FRAUD.
The word, BANKER should reside in the same section.
i hope kate gets you help
he puts a sock in his pants
better than the real thing
well it come from my pants but not in my pants
i saved the world
i dont know where to go to the laft or right ?
i like my wife going shopping you hoons
Inflation shall not wither them
MPs decide to cap price increases in the restaurants, cafes and bars within the Houses of Parliament.
Tough on expenses, e.t.c.
This level of looting of the public purse by supposed public servants is grand larceny.
Grand it may or may not be, however what MP’s get as their cut directly from the tax payer is still a drop in a very big ocean at 10 times the price.
The very big ocean being the amount of money they willfully throw down the toilet through corrupted borrowing and spending.
The measure of any half good government is the amount of relative and actual wealth in the hands of the people at the end of its term in office. Not the amount in the hands of multi-national corporations and their bankster overlords.
What the people need and genuinely want IMO is a nice combination of the best parts of socialism and free market capitalism. For example the same sort of thing that they are always promised during the run up to elections, by people such as Edward Heath, Harold Wilson, Margaret Thatcher, Tony Blair and David Cameron.
OUR PROBLEM IS THIS
As our democratic system is as good as 100% controlled by our own establishment, not the unsuspecting over BBC/MSM trusting, viciously mind controlled voting public. Parliament ALWAYS works for THEM, however much we might prefer to believe it at least sometimes works for US.
The truth is we really could have the best of both worlds instead of the worst of both, and in our heart of hearts, we know we can. The problem is so do they. We have never had the best of both worlds because the ruling class could no longer adequately control us if they allowed such a thing. If we were permitted to became free, happy, prosperous, secure, educated and contented at the same time, for more then a few moments during our entire lifetimes, all establishment hell would break loose.
In conclusion
If the common people (99.9999999999% of the population ) carry on forever being divided by establishment created left/right ideologically based bullshit, we will continue to be very badly and dishonestly RULED, all of the way to our graves.
My advice
Is to start thinking in terms of US or THEM, and RIGHT or WRONG, while completely forgetting about left or right, or for that matter blue, yellow, or red, rather sharpish. Vote for Cameron by all means, just don’t expect the ‘ultimate plan’ to change in the slightest.
The problem is that ‘them’ has changed from a rather ineffectual bunch of overeducated toffs to a scheming evil horde of half-educated Marxists that couldn’t get a proper job if they tried.
So ‘us and them’ takes on a rather different meaning when we have a Cabinet who have never done a proper job between them (political lecturing and law aren’t proper jobs – they are a necessity, but should be minimised as far as possible to reduce parasitism), and who have an innate hatred of freedom and democracy.
As I posted elsewhere in reply to a New Labour troll (Cuse, on Penguin’s blog), I’m an unreconstructed Old Labour git, who happens to agree with the Libertarian point of view on almost everything but the relationship between workers and bosses. Old Labour isn’t and never was Marxist – we (along with the sensible Tories) were pragmatic – fighting our corner as best we could.
This New Labour crap is the worst of all worlds – abandoning the British working man in favour of multiculturalism and faux feminism.
We need to retake our country from these Hoons, and if there are Tory Hoons we need to expose them too.
I have just granted an audience to comrade John Humphries of the radio. I graciously explained that I have done nothing wrong, save for one minor peccadillo for which I have apologised and which need no longer be mentioned. I have made clear that I fully justify all money that could possibly be taken by me. My work is exemplary. My constituents love me. I am getting on with the job.
Fatarse caught bang to rights on Sky News, if she had any decency she wouldn’t be so brazen and claim she had apologised, so it’s all ok. However, she has no decency. I’m going to love watching her and other Nu Labour Hoons being ousted in 13 months time!!
You may be getting on with the job (of robbing us blind),
but are you “making a better tomorrow, today”?
Whose electoral roll does Jacqui Smith appear ? Surely that would clarify the main residence question.
The hypothesis that MP’s cannot be trusted is, FACT.
They will try to tell you only a small number of MP’s are on the take, RUBBISH!
MP’s no longer represent the people of the UK, that is if they ever did.
MP’s for years have banked on the people’s ignorance, blind stupidity and fear of the unknown.
YOUR MAIN WEAPON IS YOUR VOTE; not being elected is what they fear the most.
Without it they are no more than common crooks rubbing shoulders with those they despise and fear the most…YOU!
They despise you because you have the power of the vote!
Your vote legitimises an MP’s ability to play power games with you and your children’s lives, to further their wealth and quality of life and to take from you whatever they want.
It legitimises their ability to pay their supporters to help them.
They and their supporters (BBC and most establishment media) will huff and puff and try to apply the worry factor of grave happenings if you do not vote.
Self improvement will certainly come for MP’s in order to survive if too many spoil their ballot papers.
Sack them at next election, show them you are not as stupid as they think, but mostly have had enough!
9,000 jobs now going at RBS -ooch
Gordon’s economic miracle doesn’t seem to be working.
You would be amazed how many of these comments are made by MPs themselves…….I know …..