Even the Chancellor Cheats the Taxpayer
What hope is there when the Chancellor, who is responsible for the integrity of the public finances, is lining his pocket at the public’s expense? In times gone by this would have been a resigning matter. The Right “Honourable” Alistair Darling will no doubt tell us he has done nothing wrong. Judge for yourself:
He has a choice of four homes; he is provided with two grace and favour homes at the public’s expense, he rents out his former private home (originally taxpayer funded) for his private profit and then he claims for his other home. He has at various times claimed that various houses were his main residence – in doing so he always maximised his claim for expenses. Today he pays no housing expenses whatsoever out of his own pocket – anywhere – while the taxpayer pays for three properties for him and he rents out a fourth to make an extra profit. The condemnation is universal:
Last night, a spokeswoman for Mr Darling refused to comment on his expense claims. However, it previously emerged that until 2005 he claimed that a flat he shared with other Labour MPs was his “main home”. This allowed him to claim about £70,000 in expenses on his Edinburgh home where his wife and children lived.
It was then reported that he switched his formal declaration and told the Parliamentary authorities that the Edinburgh home was his main residence. This allowed him to claim for a London property and it is thought he bought a flat in the capital.
However, after becoming Chancellor in July 2007, Downing Street automatically became his main residence. It is thought that he then began claiming expenses again on the Edinburgh property and rented out the London home. In the 2007-08 financial year, Mr Darling claimed £9,837 in second-home expenses.
Mr Cameron said: “Given the state is effectively providing the minister with a second home, I can see no justification for them continuing to claim a second-home allowance. If elected I will make sure no Conservative minister with a grace-and-favour residence in London would be allowed to make a claim for a second home – including me.
“We have to sort this out now. No one will listen to politicians about anything if the impression is that they are living high on the hog off the back of taxpayers.”
Nick Clegg, the Liberal Democrat leader, said: ``It is clearly barmy for ministers to indulge in a form of double counting that enables them to enjoy two homes at the taxpayer’s expense.
“To say this is within the rules will only serve to convince the public that the rules are broken and need to be fixed as soon as possible.
Susie Squire of the Taxpayers’ Alliance added: “Alistair Darling has some serious questions to answer about his exploitation of the parliamentary allowances system. It’s very concerning that the man who is in charge of our money thinks it is appropriate to make a fast buck from the taxpayer. His behaviour is totally unacceptable.”
Go on, defend this Sir Michael White…
UPDATE : The London Evening Standard has discovered that Margaret Beckett is at it as well, she has three homes courtesy of the taxpayers. Her caravan is (Guido believes) her own…
‘Sir’ Michael White, enough said.
The White Queen will not even deign to mention it!
what about the broon queen
http://www.tcweeklynews.com/default.asp?sourceid=&smenu=1&twindow=&mad=&sdetail=1198&wpage=1&skeyword=&sidate=&ccat=&ccatm=&restate=&restatus=&reoption=&retype=&repmin=&repmax=&rebed=&rebath=&subname=&pform=&sc=2404&hn=tcweeklynews&he=.com
Sir Michael White can defend anything when it comes to Labour.
O/T, but concerning The White Queen’s bitchy comments on the magnificent Hannan performance, if you look at the RH column on youtube there are several bastard Hannan videos posted, although each has still run up 10’s of thousands of hits.
The poor, computer-illiterate queen probably used one of those counts for his rant!
I used to have a bit of sympathy for Darling as despite being a Labour MP, he seemed to have an air of decency about him. He had also been left by McBust with the public finances in a terrible state and had to make the best of a bad lot.
Not anymore. He is just another ZaNuLab fraudster and can go to hell with the rest of the greedy Hoons.
Don’t have sympathy for any of the bastards. Darling could bring down this government at any time he felt. Simply walk into Brown’s offcie, tell him he’s resigning and the whole edifice would fall.
Have no sympathy.
Damn straight. I’ve heard the sympathy line with Darling before, it’s complete nonsense.
He’s Scotch AND a Lawyer. ‘Nuff said – even before you get to being a traitor to this country.
Once a Trot always a Trot except in this case he is a thieving Trot
Ditto – I thought he was better than this – how stupid of me.
Plato, Darling could be better than this. In fact, he sohuld be, but, instead, he just decided to shove his snout into the hooning trough, same as all the other NiLiebourists.
Words fail me- all except one……
OINK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Unfair to pigs!
I think you may be right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kill them all. It’s the only answer.
Quite agree – cull the lot of the bastards, and start again… it’s the only way to be sure.
Just don’t let DEFRA do it, please.
Agreed.
They have destroyed Britain.
They have destroyed the economy.
All the while enriching themselves.
Utter scum.
damn right, maybe a bit extreme but they wont stop untill they are stopped
British Government ministers’ rampant greed ‘within the rules’ and British bankers fixated on increasingly bloated bonuses and pension. Who encouraged and influenced who? The Government were enamoured by bankers and honoured droves of them with knighthoods, baronetcies and places in government (the Lords, the FSA, ‘reviews,’ etc) and it has always been in the Government’s power to regulate banks, – not the other way round—and MP’s and ministers’ bonuses, ‘expenses,’ etc. Bankers took the lead for greed from their friends in Government. New Labour’s love affair with money (personal ‘expenses,’ banks or Russian billionaires) created an ‘it’s ok to be greedy’ atmosphere within the top layer of influence and power in the UK, which resulted in greedy bankers almost destroying the economy. But hey that’s OK, their friends in Government bailed them out with our money! Neither bankers nor minister will feel the pinch of the recession; their acquired wealth will cocoon them. Shame on them all.
They’re not any more greedy than almost anybody else who can get away with it, which doesn’t make it acceptable, of course.
They are the new aristocracy; free to pillage the public purse at whim and immune from prosecution.
Does Darling claim for the food his eyebrows eat?
Does Darling claim for the food his eyebrows eat?
hahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahah
Leftists are always the greediest.
They are without shame.
The next election will not be an anti-Labour landslide: it will be more than that. It will be a national cleansing.
ANYONE BUT LABOUR!!!!!
I’m not sure they are.Aren’t you old enough to remember the depavaity of the Tory boys and girls in the 0s and 90s?
Darling is a hoon, Labour are a bunch of hoons, the Tories are hoons. The liberals are total hoonish hoony hoonmeisters.
But the key thing is that generally (with a few notable exceptions), the only scandals Tories get involved with involves them dipping their winkles in too many women (or men).
Labour tend to just screw the country rather than each other in my experience. That’s the difference, but their 90s spin has made a sex scandal look evil, whilst financial scandals are defended to the nth degree.
Yeah, with a third of the country still supporting them a landslide is very likey.
aye
Good. As commentators at Political Betting are noting, a summer of bye-elections ahead, the boil is lanced, the outpourings will destroy MP reputations.
What fools these marxists and their fellow travellers are.
McBustard studied history? No sign of any lessons learned.
McBustard wants to BE history. He wants his LEGACY, nay he’s desperate for it, no amount of money will get him that! It is hoped the historians will not be kind, he is undeserving of any whitewash!
He’ll remain famous for the quality of his published works, won’t he? I mean, surely his PH.D treatise on benefit cheating is a masterpiece? Then his much praised books about courage (other people’s, of course) are surely in the Guiness Book Of Records as being the fastest remaindered of all time?
If the addresses of all MPs and senior civil servants were as public as all of ours are, I’m sure they would be more “focused” in representing us.
What a good idea.
Why not set-up an on-line database and invite constituents to populate it with what they know about thier local MP, AM or MSP.
Photos from Google Earth might help.
A job for Guido. Come on you know you want to
A sort of fraudster and underhand dealing database…
Excellent idea….
Information for any companies etc that are remotely considering having one of them as a boardmember when they are kicked out of office…..
It would help the company to know the morals of the person they are considering employing….
Would you hire Jacqui….knowing the petty cash may be raided and used for bbqs and porn videos…
Would Darling like to tell the proles if he has set up family trusts just like those good socialists Tony Benn and Ralph Milliband.
Will he pay IHT or is this for the little people whose estates have been caught up by fiscal drag?
Time to find their income tax returns.
Please stop refering to second homes, london flats etc. Call them what they are.
Taxpayer funded Dachas for our glorious leaders
Very good! That’s exactly what they are.
So as the Germans say would that make anyone ripping off the public for an extra house a
“Dachahoon”
Speaking of the Chancellor and his dodgy dealings in the property market, there is trouble today over at housepricecrash.co.uk.
Threads complaining about Darling’s behaviour have been censored and some long-standing forum members who complained have been prevented from posting.
Is there a moderator at housepricecrash who doesn’t want to upset the government?
Probably also explains the deletion of the thread that contained an eyewitness account of the demise of Mr. Tomlinson at the G20 do on 1st April (does that count as destruction of evidence?). More detailed than any other account I’ve seen too, although there is some new photographic evidence here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/apr/05/g20-protest-ian-tomlinson?commentid=2264ed12-1b2c-4a66-9ca1-7d9abe9c4488
The story has at least made it to both the Mail and The Times.
Censorship at housepricecrash.co.uk has become more oppressive recently. Criticism of the government, and Gordon Brown in particular, is either removed from the site or banished to the nether regions where very few people bother to look. Some members have also been banned without explanation in recent months.
I prefer globalhousepricecrash where all points of view are tolerated:
http://forum.globalhousepricecrash.com/index.php?s=90153f1efad30a5b745b4a3d854199ff&showforum=18
Someone on globalhpc is complaining about censorship on hpc….
http://forum.globalhousepricecrash.com/index.php?showtopic=49542
Go to Globalhousepricecrash, they tolerate anyone.
Somebody else moaning about censorship on http://www.housepricecrash site….
http://forum.globalhousepricecrash.com/index.php?showtopic=49542
Now Margaret Beckett is found to have claimed expenses for constituency home while renting out flat
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1167864/Now-Margaret-Beckett-claimed-expenses-constituency-home-renting-flat.html
Dont post this on housepricecrash though or some moderator will censor it!
The former Chancellor, G “The Prime Mentalist” Broon, Esq., also claims a second home allowance.
If he doesn’t want 10 Downing St, I’ll have it.
Are you sure – the neighbours are appalling!!
I don’t know if I can stand anymore of this tyranny. Almost everday lately there has been the drip drip of information about the take take of these bastards. Shooting them is too good, but what else can we realisically do until the fucking election, if there is one?
Use them for medical experiments
Why what will that prove only that they are greedy hypocritical bastards under the guise of respectability. We know that already.
But it’s only just beginning!
The leaked expenses claims are still out there wait until all is revealed.
It can only get better.
Tax them at 90% for any gains!
After all The HoC is a taxpayer owned organisation.
Snatch their houses back off them …. we froze Icelands assets on the basis of anti-terror legislation….
The Icelandic Government and their financial institutions have been no worse than the UK Government and financial institutions at contributing to the state of the econony – credit crunch etc….
I’m sure several needy public projects could benefit from a few millions pounds snatched back off these second homes…
That will serve him right for back stabbing McBroon while McBroon was in the US.
McBroon is Labour’s worst enemy. What we need to do is suggest names for McBroon’s successor and then wait until McBroon shafts that person. Just this year he has seen to it that Jaquie Smith, Ed Millibland and now Alistair Darling have had the rug pulled from under their feet with public humiliation of a kind that will bring their careers to a permanent end. Time to promote Harridan Harperson as the next leader in waiting I’d say.
NO! We actually WANT her to become their leader
I fnd the idea of Harperson becoming PM distinctly scary tbh…
emm how about Lord Peter Mandleson
We have some new arse ugly concrete lamposts in my village that might be improved by having some of these thieving bastards strung up from them. I’ll be happy to supply the rope…
Yeah what is it with these new lamps? They are 89 times brighter than the old ones. Presumably, this is to make sure your face is recognisable by the computer recording the CCTV images. Of course, they only use 1% of the electricity of the old ones, so they are much much greener. (GReen information provided by G Brown Truth Serums Inc (Cayman Islands))
Is this our Chancellor (and my new blog-in) posting?
I only ask because of the elementary mistake made in mistaking ‘89 times’ for ‘89 percent’ brighter. If it were the former, the NHS would be having to cope with a plague of seared retinas.
It fits with his handling of the national debt…
fuck the rope pal rusty barbed wire would be more suitable then a good dowsing of paint stripper for good measure
I think you’re being unfair to that nice Mr Darling. After all, it is very clear from reports about the government’s deficit that he was in the bottom stream for math at school and that his beastly neighbour Mr Brown tells him what to do and young Alastair says “How high, sir?” He probably can’t even count to four so wouldn’t know he has four residences. As far as I can tell, nice Mr Darling has trouble counting past nought, but since that’s the probability that he will be chancellor after the next election, that’s the only figure he needs to concentrate on. At least we know his children’s money is safe – didn’t he effectively nationalise the Duntrading Building Society last week?
And Smith was a cookery teacher – but they seem well able to max their expenses and get every allowance going….
Shame they didnt put half this effort into running the Country a bit better and maybe we wouldn’t be collectively in as much shit.
… as in cooking the books? Her last class probably all got an A and then jackoff hubbie went a bit far
Was it not predicted that when Darling started to contradict the Prime Mentalist that he would find himself our of favour and the briefings would start to allow him to be sacked?
Kind of looking like this has started.
You may have a point there Mr Circles. I was very surprised at how often he went off-piste whenever he had the chance.
That’s why I revised my view of him as Brown’s puppet – the revelations about musical homes though has killed any sympathy I had for him.
If he hadn’t done it there would be nothing to spin.
Come over here Guido and lick the floor in fron of me.
Just fuck off you moron, you’re neither original nor amusing.
Just ignore, its only a troll!
Funny how MP’s want us to meet targets and live up to standards they like to set for all but themselves.
I still don’t see any leader from any of the main three parties confirming their intention to stamp out misuse of expenses and allowances.
Lots of Huffing and Puffing but as normal no action!
Draw your own conclusions and act accordingly next election by staying home!
Not by staying home, but by voting for none of the major parties.
McTerrorist is trying to kick the whole business ‘into the long grass’ – until after the next GE to make sure non of his MPs rock the boat.
Cameron and Clegg are trying to push the matter to the fore – mainly for party political advantage. The solutions (does Cameron have one yet?) don’t look particularly appealing, but at least they are trying to get at one.
One thing we cannot afford is the return of this Labour government. If they are not dealt a death blow at the next GE then MPs swilling at the Taxpayer’s expense is immaterial -there won’t be any cash to pay them anyway.
Cameron’s solution should be to use the olympic village: http://ua.am/76mz
I’m not sure that labour are too much worse than others, but it’s more the cheek of it that they think that our money is theirs and go on about everyone for the good of the nation when they are in it for themselves, shamelessly “maximising” expenses, because they can.
I think that fits with their way of seeing laws as absolute: as long as you are within the law you are OK, and if you break it then you have done something wrong.
Zero morals except to what has been dictated.
Great idea Anonymous 10:34 am
Cameron has come out and said he would stop any minister in any government that he ran would not be allowed to claim second home allowance if they lived in a grace & favour home
However bad you think it is, it’s always worse! They are all so corrupt it really is appalling.
What a sorry bunch we have as MP’s! A Labour minister would even sell his own mother for a fiver! No, sorry, that’s stupid. He would lease her out and claim the money on expenses.
Non of them ever mention the taxpayer.
All the money comes from the fiction ‘The Public Purse’.
A pot (or should that be ‘trough’) of cash that MPs regard as their right.
Money extorted from the public in the form of taxes, then, in the minds of MPs, laundered by passing through the hands of government, and doled out to them as justifiable reward.
In the case of this disastrous Labour government, these people are not pigs – they are not any form of animal with a backbone.
They are parasites; of a level with a tapeworm.
Theiving Fuckers and I mean that most sincerely
Is Harriet Harpy-Person away on holiday? I don’t recall any strident calls for the “Court of Public Opinion” to be convened recently.
Oooops I forgot that organisation is barred from operating on matters related to NuLab MP’s and their kith and kin!
True to form, our Greatest Leader of All Time, AKA “The Scottish Scunner” is ducking the issue as he is too busy saving the world and it is beneath him to descend to the level of his Party’s dirty politics.
Since, like so many of our current problems, all these developed and emerged during his tenure in office. Another example of a “light touch” surely a euphanism for do nothing and look the other way!
Like many in the electorate I would be very happy to give the gentleman (I use that word in it’s loosest sense) a “light touch” – WITH A CAT OF NINE TAILS!
However I guess we’ll just have to be happy giving him a right kicking in the forthcoming elections later this year.
There’s one here…
http://www.labourlist.org/tell_me_why_i_should_continue_to_support_labour
It looks like only Obnoxio has bothered to comment on this LabourLost post until you tick the “show trash comments” box.
So there you have it, folks. According to NuLab your opinions are officially trash.
Excellent
Lots of good replies now.
will no doubt tell us he has done nothing wrong. Judge for yourself:
Stop Thief!
A vat of something acidic and the NuLab cabinet………..keep ‘em peeled!
Come on Labour trolls, try and justify this. Don’t bleat on about anything else, address THIS issue. What do you have to say?
Oink oink oink
Come on then – we’re waiting.
Have you noticed how now it’s the school holidays the trolls like Harman Pride have gone from this blog? Mmmm
Perhaps you could justify the Conservative party’s tax evading financial spiv backers, Ashcroft, Spencer, Fink and Wheeler.
The financial sector has become a massive malignant tumour on the US and the UK. That tumour has to be cut out and treated. Instead judging by their backers, the Conservatives are keen to re-establish the forces that have caused the disorder.
Please indicate how Conservatives will correct the mess.
Even with their allowances MP’s are paid less than an average school head teacher.
We are in the middle of the biggest financial crisis in 80 years and this is the level of debate, bring back Monica Lewinsky.
Just because you are stupid enough to be suckered by this spiv funded PR distraction, doesn’t mean the rest of us are. It’s a lame attempt to mimic the Labour ‘97 campaign. The difference is the Conservative MP’s actually were embroiled in genuine corruption, sleaze and hypocrisy. The allowances claimed are not corrupt and leave the MP’s no better remunerated than other equivalent professionals.
Wow, I’d like whatever it is you’re smoking, it really takes you away from the real world.
This is a joke, right?
As expected, the Conservatives have no idea of how to clean up the mess. They would not cut out the tumour and offer no treatment.
They and you are the ‘do nothing’ party.
Actually it isn’t a joke.
It’s extremely serious.
By the way who funds the Tax Payers Alliance and with it Susie Squire of dim witted youtube fame? More spivs, cheats and thieves no doubt.
If you had even the faintest idea of what you were talking about you would know “ordinary people” are only allowed to claim schedule e expenses when working away from home, these include hotel costs or rental accommodation (not mortgage for owned property). A meal allowance of £25 per day, travel and other misc costs up to £5 per day (ALL of which must be receipted). You are not allowed to claim for Plasma TVs, Washing Machines or Porn. Gimbiod….
None of the parties are prepared to clean up the mess, which would involve shuttong down the BoE and other measures I can’t be bothered to elaborate on. However, the topic of this post is Darling’s troughing. Anything to say?
I am not surprised that Labour keeps asking the Conservatives what to do. Its clear that Brown and Darling don’t have a clue.
“MP’s are paid less than an average school head teacher.”
So people with no professional qualifications whose job largely requires them to do what they’re told, are paid less than those with postgraduate degrees and years of experience responsible for managing a difficult mixture of pupil, staff and parent demands, and you think that’s a bad thing?
Please see above
The allowances claimed are not corrupt and leave the MP’s no better remunerated than other equivalent professionals.
But the point is:
Just because you are stupid enough to be suckered by this spiv funded PR distraction, doesn’t mean the rest of us are. This is a Monica Lewinsky type distraction. Suckers like you swallow it. You could do this you could do that and in the end MPs will get what they are getting now, big deal.
Don’t be so smug, you lot aren’t as cute as you think you are. The tumour on the financial sector will grow and grow. This disorder isn’t your old mantras of public spending or union power, its genuine financial corruption. Unlike previous recessions this one will be a lot more painful, especially for the middle and upper middle class. By god they’ll be squealing soon and then howling. Watch your family disintegrate and remember how you used to treat others facing the same plight.
In what way can the average MP be considered a professional? My MP is an ex-students union admin assistant, turned TUC admin assistant, turned Labour MP.
How on God’s green earth could he be worth more in remuneration than a doctor, lawyer, engineer or indeed head teacher?
I happen to know our local school’s head teacher and he is a dedicated, intelligent, hard working professional. The contrast with our local MP could not be greater.
“Unlike previous recessions this one will be a lot more painful”
Yeah, thanks for that, Gordon.
Just because you are stupid enough to be suckered by this spiv funded PR distraction
Erm, and in what way might that be different to the taxpayer funded PR distraction that is the attack on bankers in general and Sir Fred’s pension in particular? Oh yes, it’s taxpayers that are picking up the tab.
Your list of well paid professionals should not include engineers (I are wun).
“Please indicate how Conservatives will correct the mess.”
It would be better if you put that question to the tories.
Now fuck off back to Tuscany.
Two fat ladies,
If you are going to argue at least have point.
Paying MP’s less than equivalent professionals means that qualified, as you term it, post graduates and the like would find it unattractive to embark on a precarious political career. If you want better qualified politicians and hence ministers, chancellors and prime ministers you have to pay them a reasonable amount. A reasonable amount would be no more than the remuneration and allowances enjoyed by equivalent professionals.
Perhaps your argument presupposes that politicians should be bought and paid for in the way the offices of Billie Hague are funded by a hedge fund and Lord Aschcroft spills goodies here and there?
Really, on this issue the Conservative Party is more than a little vulnerable.
Would you like pickles with your chips?
But there’s the problem. Being a member of parliament was never meant to be a career. It was something that public-minded, successful, spirited individuals turned to as an aside to their career.
The relatively recent rise of the “professional politician” hasn’t done the country any good at all. Of course, the easy fixes for this (fixed-term parliaments, limiting MPs to three terms) won’t be pushed through because of all the vested interests.
Whatever did happen to David Abraham’s donations by proxy? Was any link ever established between his secret donation of £680,000 to the Labour party and the sudden reversal of a planning decision in his favour?
“The allowances claimed are not corrupt” – well i’m pleased that we can see how NuLabour Hoons can justify their expenses then.
Of course they are corrupt you fool.
Perhaps it’s because the majority of Labour politicians have never actually had a real job, then clearly they don’t see this?
“George Osborne’s office having been funded to the tune of half a million a year by a non resident Nat Rothschild via his mother”
So what?
You should see a doctor mate or return to your own planet as quickly as possible for a lobotomy. This fucking trash is supposed to be governing on our behalf but the whole Fuuuuuu lot of them are on the Fuuuuuu take
Politics Matters – well done mate. Funny how Guido and his right-wing followers resort to personal insults when confronted with the truth.
The fact is that none of these MPs have broken the law. The expenses system is faulty and needs reform – that’s the real issue, and Harriet Harman is on the case. Blaming individual MPs is judgemental and doesn’t deal with the underlying root of the problem.
The underlying problem appears to be that we have a very corrupt Labour Government and a Parliment stuffed with a bunch of sleazy grasping criminals there to simply line their own pockets. Greedy rotten Hoons almost every last one of them.
Teddy Bear,
No it isn’t, this issue is an Aunt SallyMonica Lewinsky spiv funded PR distraction spin aimed at dim witted suckers of whom there are many in evidence on this site, including you. You may swallow it, we won’t.
Tud Bendy,
The way you say ‘hoon’ indicates you are from a previously oppressed, stigmatised and blackmailed minority, is this so?
Politics Matters – there was once a time when MPs weren’t paid at all. We seemed to be a well-run country back then.
We didn’t have the vote though, nor did most males as it happens.
Were you in the Boer war?
Boer bash? damn good war that was by the way, ask Winston.
Susie Squire can be seen on the Downing Street youtube site making an ass of herself. Who cares what she says. The smug look of dimness on her face ws classic, more on youtube please.
Millions care what she says as she is speaking something totally alien to the leftist mindset, namely THE TRUTH.
I help fund the TPA.
You should too. Look how it annoys our extortion funded trolls.
you are a poser and a simpleton
Politics most certainly does matter, and fundamental to it is trust in the judgement and integrity of those in government. This Government have lost my trust in both these respects, and it matters to me not a jot whether Susie Squire is ‘making an ass of herself’ nor by whom she is funded.
Deflection, anybody?
Why aren’t Cameo ‘n Clegg calling it like it is and demanding resignations? It is not manipulating the rules, it is not exploiting the system; it is institutional larceny. The rules would be perfectly satisfactory if there was anything like probity in political life. Instead, we have unrestricted Hoonery, overseen by feeble, absentee Hoons who are all part of what looks like a criminal conspiracy to defraud the taxpayer.
This would never have happened when my old squash partner, Sir Stafford Cripps, was Chancellor. Quite unthinkable.
And who would resign?
Solid Labourshites would scream “Party Politicking!” and the BBC would back them every micron of the way.
McThief would gather the festering manure pile of low-grade embezzlers that passes for ‘The Party of the Working Man’ nowadays, and in his self-righteous sense of universal grievance would declaim in his stuttering grunt “I will not take lessons in honesty from the Leader of the Party opposite”. Shame he didn’t take lessons from his daddy.
And, if it went before a Parliamentary Committee, all the public would hear after a year of ‘careful consideration’ would be the same tune: “all within the rules”.
Nobody will resign for these thefts. The MPs go through, do some ‘constructive addition’ and a little shading of the truth and Bob’s your Uncle (or Aunt – delete that which does not apply for tax purposes).
If the cock-sucking collection of criminal Hoons don’t resign for dragging the country to a state of penury, they aren’t going to go over a paltry million or so.
Has anyone seen my boy Stanislav? Missing for 4 days, very worried!
Yes.
His blog has been removed and I haven’t seen him post anywhere for a few days
Hope he didn’t take a walk in the countryside. It’s a dangerous activity these days
The Director of Politically Correct ‘n Convenient Troof at AlJaBeeba,
The British Faction of the EUSSR has successfully launched a satellite in honour of the Great and Beloved Leader, The Great HelmsPerson. It circles the earth in an orbit that takes it over the greatest and most significant nations, including RhumBabaLand and N. CarryOn. Prezzy Chav and other Iluminati have sent congratulations,
The satellite broadcasts a message as follows :
‘Congratulations to Herr Comrade ChairPerson McStalinBrownStainovich and His(or Her) Five Year Plans and Progress.
And for inspiring us, the sheeple, to launch this object as a symbol of our new prosperity and to show we are not a destitute or broken-down economy.
We the adoring and obedient sheeple are grateful that He (or She) leads us in this time of Worthless Summitry and LaLaLand Finance.’
Old-Noo (née Noo-Old) BoringLiars – WASTING YOUR MONEY on something POINTLESS NEAR YOU!
Time for your medicine, dear…
Yes but is there a soundtrack we can download?
I think there’s a ringtone
“We have to sort this out now. No one will listen to politicians about anything if the impression is that they are living high on the hog off the back of taxpayers.”
Too late. I’m not going to vote for any of these lying, thieving fuckers. I know it’s pointless but I am not going to vote for any of the major parties. Independents have my vote. Who knows, with the general complete disgust now setting in we might even get a few indies in. Would be good for the country.
Hard-working Labour Ministers like Geoff,Jacqui and Alistair are entitled to a “few perks” – they ably headed by Gordon Brown are after all “saving the World” AND Gordon’s has alreadysaid he is FAR too busy to involve himself with this “froth” drummed up by the Tory Blogosphere and press.
You can rest assured that we shall be holding the Tory Opposition to account on these matters and David Cameron can expect some tough questioning from us regarding MPs expenses !!!!!!
Quite right too.
These thieving Tories, with their fat cat banker friends have really fucked up this great nation.
Whereas Our Supreme Leader has bagged a place at the front of the queue for an IMF handout….
FFS!
But we keep getting told all is ok about expenses as no rules have been broken.
It must be nice to make the rules to suit you and your mates,,time for their expenses be put under HMRC rules as with us sh*ts
O/T. The BBC has commissioned a series of programmes to commemorate Holy Week.
The showpiece (BBC One, 8pm) is Holy Coke!, an updated version of the events leading up to death of Jesus Christ, whom Christians rather stupidly believe to be their Messiah.
Directed by Sir Ken Spart, the drama is set in 1980s’ Britain and the miners’ strike is in full swing.
Jess Uschrist, one of the National Union of Mineworker’s most charismatic and popular characters, arrives amid scenes of celebration in Orgreave. He brings hope to the poverty-stricken and despairing masses, and soon starts to work towards crushing the cruel Thatcher regime, which has just ordered all first-born children of miners to be exterminated.
But Uschrist begins to fear there may be an MI5 agent amongst his lieutenants, a suspicion that proves to be correct when he is arrested by the fascist police and sent to Guantanamo Bay to be tortured.
He is sentenced to death by the evil Tory authorities and crucified in front of 100,000 people at Wembley Stadium, only to return from the dead two days later.
Then, assuming the guise of a nondescript Scottish economics lecturer Gordon McUschrist, Jess becomes prime minister and saves the world from economic collapse.
Sir Ken has introduced some additional characters, including Fatima, a one-legged former heroin addict and prostitute who has converted to Islam. Fatima begins a passionate affair with Jess but, devastated by his death and the plight of Gazan miners, she blows herself up on a bus, killing dozens of people.
Brilliant – and so true to the original.
Makes Alan Bstard seem saintly.
Come on Cameron lets have a public request for the heads of Darling, Hoon, Smith, etc.
There is no such thing as Morals in Westminster any more.
Indeed.
The Loyal Opposition seems, if anything, to be loyal to Labour. They are truly useless.
Now then, now then , here’s a question….
When these multi-home Hoons complete their tax returns (as surely they must) to declare the income on the properties they have let out, I wonder if they seek to reduce the taxable profit by claiming again for the expenses reimbursed by Parliament….now that would be a jolly wheeze.
The Great Hoonmeister has spent nearly all his working life in Politics, firstly at Strasbourg and then at Westminster. Apart from this, he did six years as a lecturer and a couple as a provincial barrister. The remuneration for these years would have been relatively modest.
When the news on his thieving broke it was accompanied by aerial shots of his original family residence. And quite a spread it was, too. It was scarcely commensurate with what might have been expected from somebody who has spent his working life in employment which is not normally regarded as being particularly lucrative. I guess that he must have married very well, being an urbane, roguishly handsome, charmer type.
Funnily enough, I also thought that Jacqebab had done rather nicely for herself out of her modest, cookery teacher and (until recently) MP’s salary. Lucky old her.
I often feel these base pangs of envy when I notice that career politicians are generally very fortunate with their property acquisitions. With them all being so very clever and hard working, I have to concede that they are simply more astute with their savings than the common herd.
go back to your constituencies and prepare your expense claims.
Let the piggie go to labourlost and read this: http://www.labourlist.org/tell_me_why_i_should_continue_to_support_labour
A reason to vote Labour?
Labour’s proudest achievement!!
http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/families/article6035096.ece
Remember, when it comes time to vote, only NuLabour could bring you this.
We import most of our food, and the pound has collapsed.
Why is the pound so low? Becuase interest rates are too low.
Why are interest rates too low? To keep MPs BTL empires solvent.
Zanu-Labour have fucked this country for their own gain.
Was that relationship between Jess and Fatima formally Sanctioned under Sharia Law. If they are not married, then both are guilty of the sin of fornication.
Mmmmmm.
Sin.
Crunchy!
Is Darling standing in front of a Northern Crook poster?
Is this what Labour mean by “supporting the housing market at this difficult time”.
Or is it “investment in the UK economy”?
“By the way who funds the taxpayers alliance”.
darling and his cronies have been cheating us for many years!
Not sure what planet “Politics Matters” beams in from when he says “The difference is the Conservative MP’s actually were embroiled in genuine corruption, sleaze and hypocrisy.”
As someone else has already pointed out, most so-called Tory sleaze, with some exceptions, related to Tory MPs boffing their secretary / PPS etc. So what. Who cares who they bonk, as long as they aren’t getting the taxpayer to fund the bill. Even the Tory money scandals were a joke. “Cash for Questions” ? So what? Labour have done far worse: to wit, “Cash for Peerages” and “Cash for Laws” being the two most recent examples.
As for PM’s comment about “The allowances claimed are not corrupt and leave the MP’s no better remunerated than other equivalent professionals” that is a classic. Please advise which professionals can claim say £250 per day with no need to receipts, and not have HMRC crawl in their ass and out their mouth examining their tax affairs?
Politics Matters = z-list labour troll.
z-list labour troll or Astroturfer?
Help your self, look up atro turfing.
Guido Fawkes, the Daily Mail, that’s astroturfing.
Tax Payers Alliance, that’s astro turfing.
Dollybot – probably funded by the tax-payer too.
Why are you so stupid, please advise.
The point is MP’s have allowances in addition to salary because of a reluctance to increase the salary. This is similar to the one time common practice of companies providing company cars to managerial staff. The MP’s allowances and salary together remunerate them to a level no more than equivalent professionals.
Changing the system of salary and allowances may be a good idea it may be a bad idea. Changing the system of salary and allowances will lead to the MP’s getting more or less the same amount as they get now. In other words, so what? The whold issue is an ‘Aunt Sally’ or even better a ‘Monica Lewinsky’ a spiv funded PR spin issue set up for suckers. You’re swallowing it, the rest of us are not.
There are no equivalent professionals. Fuck off back to Tuscany.
Aethelred,
If you are happy being a sucker, that’s up to you.
“There are no equivalent professionals” — devastating in the depth of it’s stupidity, your emotional landscape must be extraordinarily fractured.
You are Dolly Dripper and I claim my £5
professional?
standing in the hoc braying?
asking arse licking ‘questions’?
behaving with no INTEGRITY whatsoever?
selling our country out to europe?
getting our soldiers killed whilst lining their pockets?
do cock off !
Name one profession where claiming porn movies on expenses is within the rules. Or where the worker can claim thousands of pounds a year unreceipted?
You might find playing fast and loose with taxpayers money acceptable, but I would like to think that I can trust our politicians behave with a certain level of honesty and integrity.
Call me old fashioned.
“You’re swallowing it, the rest of us are not”
And by “us” you mean you and which other taxpayer-funded benefits scroungers?
Politics Matters – keep it up mate. Funny how Guido and his right-wing followers resort to personal insults when confronted with the truth.
The fact is that none of these MPs have broken the law. The expenses system is faulty and needs reform – that’s the real issue, and Harriet Harman is on the case. Blaming individual MPs is judgmental and doesn’t deal with the underlying root of the problem.
Fuck me Harman Pride really has excelled herself. I am now convinced that nobody could actually believe that shit and therefore that she has strung us all along all this time with an elaborate wind-up.
Joke’s over now.
“Why are you so stupid, please advise.”
I’ll be happy to advise. Always end a question with a question mark, understand?
Reality pin head
Gulp away, gulp away, you mug.
This is your second post referring to both Monica Lewinski and swallowing. You are Bill Clinton and I claim my £5.
It’s only a “Monica Lewinsky PR stunt” to Labour Party Trolls. Ask a normal person, with a real job about the disgusting expenses claimed by the Home Secretary et all, and watch their reaction.
You are an out of touch prick.
@Politics Matters says:
April 6, 2009 at 11:40 am
“Why are you so stupid, please advise.
The point is MP’s have allowances in addition to salary because of a reluctance to increase the salary.”
Look here you thick commie tosser, politics isn’t a profession, it’s a vocation – or rather it’s supposed to be. In a proper profession you are expected to acquire and master a given body of knowledge to a given standard before you are allowed to practice. Moreover, you are held accountable by your professional body for maintaining professional standards of competence, ethics and behaviour.
In contrast, the key requirements for becoming a politician are the ability to arse lick, buck pass and lie to order. If a member of a proper ‘profession’ ( doctors, engineers, accountants, lawyers and such like) had been caught trousering their clients cash, in the blatant manner MPs have trousered our money, they would be struck off.
(well perhaps not lawyers, but they’re a different kind of animal, and interestingly enough, overrepresented within the ranks of MPs).
OT: Sky News seem to have cottoned on to the fact that the country is slowly going bankrupt and put a debt counter updating in real time alongside some stories. There goes another Nokia in the bunker.
How long will it be until the BBC starts an “investment” counter?
Faint Rumblings @ Al-Ja-Beeba…
Yesterday, emerging from my alcohol induced sleep I was greeted by Radio 4 finishing some program or other (must’ve slept through it) with a humorous sign off.
A scottish voice made some reference to the PM, then finished off with the music of a highland jig and a request to “…join us in the Gay Gordons” and a series of nauseating soundbites of Gordo doing his “I really want to lick your bum-hole clean” speeches to Obama this week.
I shit-you-not!
Maybe it slipped under the radar?
I’m trying for 5 points in my I-Spy book of Internet Fauna
Mcgrunt Mcgrunt Mcchomp Mcchomp Mcoink Mcoink, Pause: Mcbeeeeeeelch, Mcfaaaaaaaart. Mcgrunt Mcgrunt Mcchomp Mcchomp Mcoink Mcoink, Pause: Mcbeeeeeeeeelch, Mcfaaaaaaaaart……………………………..
Class
Splendid RB – so true to life. But you forgot McPainnnnnn, McDiarrhoea…….
And when the GE takes place – McChop (God I hope so).
Let’s face it, they are all paid too much – and as a result MPs mostly come from the greedy class! Pay them a lot less and we would get a much better class of truly motivated MPs. It is time to stop the absurd claim about high pay being necessary to attract the best candidates : look at our MPs, most of them are unprincipled Whip fodder. As with Doctors (who have of course had abscene pay rises under NuLab), all sense of vocation has been lost, and with it any chance of real democracy!
Can good old Susie Squire not get the TPA to take on two prominant MPs – one from either side of the house to show no political allegiance – and civilly prosecute them for fraud….
Go on Susie !
The Parliamentary Authorities will only do a whitewash.
so what !!!
its the right thing to do
Fuck Youse all
Many years ago i read a brilliant fiction cant remember the name or author but made some notes that i have kept by me:
Rulers are to be elected to position every 5 years.
The government has no power, it exists only to carry out the will of the electorate.
No man/woman serves more than one term of office.
Outside interests are viewed as corruption so:
No elected official has an outside interest, as soon as they are elected all they own is sold and the money is put into the national treasury. IF the economy prospers during their term of office their wealth earns them a profit, if the economy collapses they loose everything.
No Government ever makes a profit??? It has to be a real profit. The tax rates are set and cannot be changed, so officials cannot generate a false profit by simply raising taxes.
The fact that a mans/womans own personal fortune is in the treasury forces him/her to work just as hard as they possibly can to make sure that the government prospers.
As soon as the persons name is placed for nomination for a public office they are put under guard, and if elected they remain under guard for their entire term. The state makes absolutely sure that nobody evades his/her responsibility to it.
This form of government generates vast quantites of paper, questionaires, forms permits and licenses for almost everything. Nobody in the government wants really to make a decision, so documents are just passed around until they either fall apart or get lost.
Seems quite real to me.
tulip
They could also do with a law that does not allow a Government to bankrupt the incoming one.
You know – perhaps not to spend more than you earn through a term in power.
Labour appears to have a scorched earth policy as well as corruptly filling their boots with what is left of taxpayers cash…
If we can use anti-terror legislation to seize Icelandic assets as they allowed a ponzi pyramid unregulated banking system to bankrupt the UK – perhaps Cambo could offer to go after Smiths, Darlings, Hoons, McNumpties and Becketts assets and homes when they are ousted from power…
Now that would get peoples vote..
By the way Inquisitor…..
Fraud and Financial Mismanagement =ZaNuLabour
Paul Clark was hacked! Labourisworking.com ain’t working so well at the moment!
http://tinyurl.com/cqk8ye
Good to see the Taxpayers’ Alliance has coomented on the matter. Oddly, the Tax Justice Network and Richard Murphy have been silent…
bastards
Even if you were an ardent Labour supporter how is it possible not feel betrayed anger and contempt for these pigs? How can anyone (other than trolls) who isn’t on the payroll, blog on behalf of these scoundrels?
I’d feel soiled if I could bring myself to vote for the NuLabour filth.
Not when I found out how much the head teacher got
There’s a huge shortage of head teachers. Can’t say the same for politicians, unfortunately.
Its the arrogant sesne of entitlement to taxpayers cash that really irks.
No one can morally justify this legalised theft of taxpayers money.
By the fact that they know their actions are morally dubious shows me that not a single one of these troughers has any civic duty or public service ethos about them at all.
No one should become a public servant to become a millionaire. Its just plain wrong – & I venture this long list of thefts has given more ammo to those who are washing their hands of politics altogether in the UK.
I am no longer angry about this, just sad. The damage being done to our country & democracy by these thieves is immense.
Someone said earlier “string them up” – & I would have to agree – there is nothing like a public lynching of corrupt so called public servants to bring other miscreants on the same path into line.
Beckett – didn’t she once claim for a Pegoda to park one of caravans under, or was this an urban myth?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1167864/Now-Margaret-Beckett-claimed-expenses-constituency-home-renting-flat.html
Beckett’s at it too.
I would have thought that she would’ve claimed for a bloody caravan!!!!!!!!!!!!
He is a Lawyer and so has lost the needle of his moral compass
What they need is their troughs totally cleaned out. Who’s up to the task?
No wonder there’s a fucking housing shortage!
The Hoons in the Cabinet are shovelling their relations into as many as they can swindle out of the taxpayer.
I am too fucking amazed to be angered.
I’ll have to wait for the disbelief to pass before the rage sets in.
Theft – pure and simple.
The Serious Fraud Office are gonna be working overtime when Labour is kicked out. Labour politicians have discovered something they are good at – CRIME.
Why is there a big Parliament building in London that MPs travel to c. 30 weeks every year?
Because in the middle ages that was the only practical way to convene the people’s representatives in order to consider and pass the few laws that were needed to supplement the natural justice that came from Common Law and Equity.
So give every MP a broadband connection, a webcam and hook them up to a Parliament conferencing network and there you go – no more travel, no more secong homes, just MPs living, working, debating, voting in the communities they represent.
The more open and honest ones might even put their desks by the front window so that the people can watch them at work!
I’m sure that without too much imagination, Ministers could be based at home too.
R56
I point out that ZaNuLabour politicians would have to live and work in Labour voting constituencies.
Their fellows would be the sort of idiots who voted for them…
In expectation that ZaNuLabour actually had their interests at heart…
Do you see the drawbacks for any clear-thinking NuLabour thief?
agreed – completely
Can we noe get the Brown hoon investigated now?
how much did he borrow to but his properties?
who gave him the money?
his mortgage multiples are many times the norm.
he cannot have got the money from book sales!
i want to see the man of courage be publicly humiliated…….
along with the rest of them.
…. and the Councils
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/apr/06/council-chief-executives-pay
When the Chancellor of the Exchequer and the Home Secretary believe stealing is acceptable, it’s hardly surprising our country is heading down the u-tube.
Come, come! I think you meant to say that the Chancellor, the HS, the Hoon, the Beckett and about 95% of the rest think it’s acceptable. The other 5% probably can’t write or add up and are thus unready to reap their full share of parliamentary benefits.
We’re already down the tube, but since most tubes are open-ended, how are we to find out how far?
That’s such a cool job to have; I wish I was an MP.
Being given a house to stay in for free as part of your job is great, and then being able to also have your mortgage paid on your own second house on top of that so you can rent it out to someone else or to help build your own property portfolio for free, well, that’s even cooler.
Free house, plus mortgage paid on another 2nd house.
Now that’s what I call a nice little earner.
Of course it’s all within the rules; technically nothing’s outside the rules because they wrote their own rules and worded it all in such a way that nobody can ever be seen as actually breaking them.
Was this Darling thing news? I thought it was all common knowledge; I’d read about it years ago.
My boss won’t give me a free house though or pay me extra to help build up my property portfolio; he says that my salary is supposed to cover my mortgage; spoilsport.
I just love the idea that my hard earned cash is being given to people who are already rich at my expense to become even richer by me paying for their personal property investments (and to help pay for their bbqs, and their kitchen sinks’ got to keep them happy, they’re all working tirelessly for us you know)
It makes me feel proud to be a uk citizen in this wonderful democratic country where we all get to vote for our leader and where we are all represented by such wonderfully selfless public servants.
I wore a blue dress, from Gap, thong, cigar, oh wow, I can’t remember, Drudge, oh yes Drudge, is is. Fascinating
Obama had a similar scenario put to him; he was allowed to use American tax dollars to pay for sprucing up the white house (the Oval office and the personal quarters) – he turned it down (even the Oval Office aspects) saying that to take money for that when he’s already living there for free would be an obscenity that he couldn’t possibly condone/do, and that it would show total contempt for the American people, so he rejected all of it and decided to pay for any sprucing up out of his own pocket.
ie Obama basically said “I know what the rules are, and you can keep those rules if you really want to, but I’m not going to use them because they’re morally unjustifiable”
I don’t agree with everything Obama says, but on that front he was entirely right.
Well he’s made a fortune from ghost written fiction after all.
At least Hamilton got his dodgy money from Fayed, not my taxes.
We need a national “anger with politicians” indicator. Something on the lines of church fund raising thermometers. If we also had a real time incrementing “politician dishonest actions” web counter, we would have all the tools needed to predict when this is likely to blow.
The “politician dishonest actions” web counter probably wouldn’t work unless it was a totally custom-built counter to take account of unusually large numbers.
With my geeky tech hat on, there’s a limit of integer values that you can’t go beyond without special additional programming.
The normal limit is 2,147,483,647
I don’t think it’d take long (if it was an international counter especially) to go beyond that limit, so it’d have to be custom-built rather than an off-the-shelf counter.
So make more than one! We can carry over those gone before – and numbers really are infinite. Get your screwdrivers working today.
from the BBC “Commons leader Harriet Harman says there will be “big changes” to rules on MPs’ expenses, including “clearer rules”. ”
Why are my expectations about this: a: ensuring that the rules do not appear in written form anywhere. or b: if the rules have to be printed ensure that a white font on white background is used.
I cannot see any of the current crop of politicians voting for anything that might limit their rape of the public purse.
You forgot the bit where the new rules will be formulated, according to some timetable decided by McDoom – this year, next year, sometime, never.
McDoom’s pals need all the time they can get to make sure their nest is well and truly feathered.
Harman knows the rules aren’t the problem. It’s the bastards running a horse and coaches through them that is. Until this bollocks about changing the rules is stopped, you’ll never pin these pigs down.
But then, the mainstream media don’t want to pin the porkers down, do they.
this constant harping to “the rules” is so depressing – dont they fucking get it ?? It’s not the rules – it’s their attitude – they shouldn’t need rules to tell them what’s right FFS!
The Arrogance of these people is staggering yet not unsurprising
They are all at it in Labour it seems, and the silence form the Conservatives is defining.
I would like to ask the question where is John Lyon the alleged Chair on the Committee on Standards in Public Life. This faceless bureaucrat has never been seen and as a publicly paid alleged enforcer he should be on TV, Radio and in the press explain in great detail what he is doing about these misappropriations of public money and when is he going to do it?
John Lyon as the Chair on the Committee on Standards in Public Life, must be made to come out and explain his apparent in action, he is after all paid by us the taxpayers!
You bastard!
Same to you madam, delighted to see you back from the Cornwall coast, trust the caravan is in good shape.
I don’t know if you realise that your attacks on the Labour Government are helping the Tories to return. Do you really want the Conservatives to come back? Do you want a return to 15% interest rates and 3 million unemployed, and waiting 2-3 years for a critical operation?
Believe it or not that’s what they want.
It’s tribal.
Good point. As someone who remembers the bad old days of Maggie Thatcher, with 3 million unemployed and interest rates hitting 15%, schools and hospitals starved of funding, pensioners freezing in their own homes, nothing could be worse than another Tory administration.
Yes it was painful for a short while, putting right the mess that the last Labour government left behind.
God knows what action will be required after Brown has finished with the country.
listen you tossers-on expenses- you know nothing!
there are 5-6 million unemployed already….
rather strangely the boks are fiddled…
of course it’s all within the ‘rules’.
and as for interest rates-the real interest rates are a nightmare increasing daily……inflation is around 20% (more fiddling) and the country is on its knees….
yes the headline was 12-15% at one stage under the tories……..but as usual your ‘facts’ are misleading………
just like the politbureau expenses for dachas……..
Harman_Pride and Politics Matters … you seem to have come to the wrong site accidentally.
There’s another one called something like Labour’s Lost which would seem more appropriate for nulab astrotrufers.
There’s already 5 million unemployed, just 3 million of them are hidden away as Disabilty Scroungers etc. Interest Rates were only 15% for a few fucking days you knobhead, and the waiting lists are also fiddled. Besides, who wants fast access to C Diff and MRSA?
You stupid Hoon.
See?
Remember, we also paid a fucking fortune for the fast access to C Diff. and MRSA.
I’m too young to remember much of the tail end of the last labour administration in the late 70’s because I was only about 8 at the time, but I asked my dad and he said that he was much better off under labour in the 70’s than he had been under the tories, but that it was just a question of time before the country ended up bankrupt and his money turned to worthless pieces of paper that couldn’t buy anything.
Luckily for him labour got kicked out before sterling became completely worthless; this time it’s going to be a close call.
Your “better off” scenario under labour is an illusion, and is only experienced by people in certain specific situations; it’s just temporary and financed entirely by unsustainable public debt while the private sector is slowly murdered.
I think the key word here is “unsustainable”, and that’s what labour voters/MPs have never understood (and never will) because none of them understand basic maths/economics/logic/reason.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2009/apr/06/poverty-uk-charity-aid
Save The Children, who normally do things like famine relief in the armpits of the world are now giving financial help to poor families in the UK.
“We didn’t think that we could stand by and do nothing. We’re very worried about what’s happening,” Collette Marshall, director of UK programmes, said.
The article goes on to discuss the malnutrition now being seen in young mothers and children, because they cannot afford the food they need – the cost of vegetables has risen over 18% in the past month etc. etc.
Welcome to the New Labour future! You can mouth the slogans to yourself as you queue up at the feeding station for free UN soya protein.
I was one of the unemployed at the time, so don’t try to lecture me on the subject.
True, it was crap, but it seems worse now so it’s difficult to get any more worried about the situation 20 years ago than RIGHT-F***ING-NOW!
Dick-brain…
I realize that my comments may show displeasure at the current governing party who have exceeded the tory figures of 15% and 3 million (the true figures, not governments manipulated ones).
I want honest politicians ( an oxymoron perhaps) who tell the truth and whose foremost aim is not to embezzle as much as they can from the public purse whilst claiming “it’s within the rules.”
If this has the effect of encouraging a less rapacious party to become the government so be it
They had to raise interest rates to 15% for a few weeks to pay for the last thieving Labour scum and oh yes the 3 million unemployed were unemployed because Labour completely lost the plot yet again and bankrupted us.I notice you do not mention the Country started recovering as soon as Labour were thrown out of office and it would not surprise any of us if it happened again with this shower but its going to take a hell of a lot longer to recover this time.
I’d love 15% interest on my savings.
My mortgage is paid off.
Tra laa laa!!!
I remember 3 million unemployed – its higher than that now (you can hide anything with statistics)
15% interest rates? Well if interest rates had been higher, there is no way people would have been taking out mortgages 5 and higher X salary!
I took out my first mortgage at 15% – my salary was 7,400 and my mortgage was 18,500.
Ah – the good old days!
I can’t wait for Labour to be demolished, destroyed, vanquished.
Nothing else matters.
I do so hope that the Pork Buster’s efforts will lead to these troughers having to work harder for their Pork Scratchings.
In the East Anglian seafaring community, mention of pigs is bad luck. They’re called Curly Tails, and if the word “pig” is mentioned, the antidote is to chant “Cold Iron”. This herd wouldn’t like any of that up ‘em, I bet.
I know it’s a crazy concept but what if elected MPs actualy came from the constituancy they represent.
At the moment favoured politicians are bussed around the country to safe seats,thus accumalating Homes on the way.
No politician is indespensable except to thier own party mates.
Fuck this ‘Safe Seat’ shit.
Just to add to my last comment. By dispensing with this “Safe Seat’ scam at least we would get fresh blood in politics.
As someone who loves my country, I’m getting behind Gordon Brown at this time of national crisis. In the middle of an unprecedented global downturn, in the midst of a War on Terror, I think it’s the duty of every patriotic Briton to get behind the Government.
In 1940, if you’d been complaining about government scandals or Churchill’s alcoholism during the Blitz and calling on Ministers to resign, you would have been viewed as a traitor and dealt with accordingly by the State. Why should now be any different?
You sad deluded imbecile. If you genuinely loved you country you’d refuse Dolly’s minimum wage and go back to burger flipping. You Hoon.
The Penguin,
You are the deluded one, I’m afraid. Do you really think Gordon Brown isn’t doing his best to serve his country? He has dedicated his whole life to public service and insensitive boors such as the commenters on this blog (rightly described by Derek Draper as “the sewage”) don’t appreciate the sacrifices he’s made.
You clearly have an anger issue. Perhaps Derek Draper’s new book can help. It’s called “Life Support”:
http://derekdrapersblog.blogspot.com/2009/04/book-launched.html
Leave Harman Pride alone, he/she is a brilliant spoof.
Yes, I hear Drapers book is positively flying off the shelves. It was being offered at a big discount almost immediately after launch.
Mr Peguin,
How tall are you?
If you are a King penguin you are maybe 3 feet tall, if possible please let us know your inside leg measurement, maybe 2 inches and do you leave a smeared trail?
Don’t you just love attacking people with inane immature crudities?
Warwick,
Stop making baseless defamatory comments. Why don’t you send your name and address to Derek Draper and see how your accusations stand up in court! Derek Draper’s book is selling very well actually – people want advice on how to live more fulfilled, happier lives, to get the most out of relationships, and deal with life’s challenges in positive ways.
HP, I’m sure his comments would stand up far better than Draper’s claims as to his qualifications!
And Draper’s the man to give out that advice, is he?
Leave Churchill out of it, he did.
“As someone who loves my country, I’m getting behind Gordon Brown at this time of national crisis.”
Yes. I’d heared that’s the way he prefers it.
Now that your Internet activity can be legally tracked and monitored by the Government, I’d refrain from making libellous comments if I were you.
It’s only libel if it’s untrue, dear.
Thats the way I like it too.
Anyone critical of the Dear Leader is a traitor.
Absolutely superb wind up! Well done!
I didn’t say that.
But the fact is that Gordon Brown is running the country and wants what’s best for Britain. There’s a time for party politics but right now, we all need to pull together and support our Government.
SelfHarm-Pride said: “Gordon Brown…wants what’s best for Britain.”
His resignation and suicide should about cover it.
What if the Prime Minister is a deluded nutcase? Should we still get behind him?
stop it-you naughty wind up person………
if you keep doing this i fear that someone is going to have a heart attack!
“As someone who loves my country”
I notice you didn’t way which country.
North Korea?
Quite true Hymen Prick.
Cyclops once said that he’d give his right eye to “rule” the UK…or was it his left???
Ah yes traitors eh, well there’s a good few Scotchmen (northern Brits your tribe calls ‘em ), that fit the bill, the Tower, tumbrils, pigstickers will be in great demand soon.
Gordon Brown is an incompetent dysfunctional old socialist who’s wrecked the economy of his own country having deluded himself into believing he had abolished the economic cycle. He has never really had a proper job its been politics all the way and now he cannot face up to the disaster he is responsible for creating. With his incoherent political rantings and his shame marriage he really is the laughing stock of the world.
Hymen Prick must be Guido having a laugh. There can’t actually be a real person making thsese comments – can there? They are at junior school prefect level.
Oooh, stop it, Harman Pride you little tease, my sides are aching!
My favourite HP one was “intolerance must never be tolerated”. One to treasure, I think.
Harman_Pride says:
April 6, 2009 at 12:52 pm
“As someone who loves my country, I’m getting ‘behind’ Gordon Brown at this time of national crisis.”
I bet you are. I’d wager you ‘getting in Gordon’s behind’ is a more appropriate description of your position.
I notice this story hardly got a single mention across the BBC today. Anyone want to bet if it were a Tory (like Caroline Spelman) the BBC would be doing Newsnight specials on Tory sleaze?
The BBC is more interested in real issues that affect real people, such as the economy and the war on terror.
Do you read the Daily Mail? That would explain a lot.
They affect real people in the sense that they’re both used as an excuse by trough-snouting politicians, and their apologists, for ever more invasive levels of intervention and control.
The BBC is just another state sponsored party line media outlet, long since it was regarded as a news media – just look at the overdose on the Jade Goody ‘drama’ – it’s there to promote the governments agenda to the mong masses.
Prick,
Why have I not got a mention in Dolly’s book??
Oh yes…he didn’t know his Mrs back then..did he!!!
Would this be the same War on terror which led to an illegal war based on lies and the dodgy dosier and is this the same economy perchance which Crash Gordon and the Labour Party have run into the ground ? Just wondering.
The specials are probably ‘in the can’ just waiting to be updated and aired…
Typically the BBC News’ website doesn’t mention Darlings fiddles just the Harriet is promising strong reforms.
The BBC need gutting.
Would you prefer to watch Fox News? The BBC isn’t perfect but the alternative is far worse!
Fox are biased, but the BBC tell outright lies.
I know which I’d prefer.
They’re both biased, but proportionally the BBC is in a whole different league.
At least Fox try to hold their sitting government to account, even if it’s a right-wing government. The BBC just accept/report word for word what Brown tells them to; they never question the lies that they’re told, and they repeat those lies to the public knowing full well that it’s all a total heap of steaming shit.
The BBC watches trillions of pounds of our money being thrown down the toilet by government negligence, and still manages to call the man who caused the problems the saviour of the world.
Anyway, Fox isn’t funded by their tax payers you fucking idjut so they’re allowed to skew things however they want. We pay the BBC and get steaming shit from them as they try to keep their negligent government in place by serving up nothing but lies using our money.
Oh to hell with this-from now on I am just going to post as myself (Derek Draper).I havnt got the intelligence to work out who I am supposed to be today so I will just post as myself.
Anyway I wont have to do this much longer because I have got a contract with BP to extract the oil from my hair.
Yes, I’d prefer Fox News.
They have jailed zero people, whereas the BBC has kidnapped thousands.
Fox is funded by Murdoch, the BBC is funded by license fee – taxpayers – that is why it should be different!
Look its me Dereks back again.
Just to clarify
Darling is a thieving hoon ,Brown is a retarded hoon,Hoon is a definitive hoon .
You also have to ask if the ridiculous state of the housing market, the enormous bubble, was deliberately left alone and allowed to inflate higher and higher, because all these MPs were getting rich out of it. Was policy and regulation not targetted to enable certain people to make lots of cash? Ignoring the consequences for the nation, the banks, and the people who have been financially ruined because of it.
Didn’t McMoron’s last budget skew capital gains tax to defend MPs perks?
It is no co-incidence that the politicians and bankers who show such greed are also the architects of the downfall of this country.
johnny rotten said something like’ ever felt youve been conned’?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1078636/The-time-Darling-wanted-nationalise-banks–ALL-them.html
such men of principle-working hard to serve.
One swallow doesn’t make a summer, sucker.
OK, Jacqboot Smith got away with it by claiming that she spent more time in her “main home” (her sister’s spare bedroom) than her “second home” (ie her real home). Sleazy and dishonest, but at least it has some logic to it.
How on earth does Darling get away with claiming his main home is somewhere he doesn’t live in at all? If that’s really within the rules, then presumably all these rules say is “claim for whatever you want, and screw the taxpayer”.
Am I missing something?
I see we have Harman Pride mk1 and mk2 out today,do you get the feeling that these these two are playing agent provocateurs and trying to get us pissed off with Liebour,sorry but you are to late people by a mile or could this be a double bluff ?.
The “Rules” are
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law
more lies!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/columnists/article-486736/The-bearded-Trot-wealthy-Tory-dynasty.html
i really liked this bit……
‘I’m beginning to forget what my Edinburgh house looks like,’ he said.
all working for social mobility and equality……….hoons.
At least his beard matches his eyebrows.
Why is he wearing a Rod Stewart wig?
Quote”He even admitted, ‘I don’t see politics as a career’ as he faced the weekly wrench of leaving his ex-journalist wife Margaret and their two children at home in Edinburgh and travelling to London, and not seeing them again until the end of the week.
‘I’m beginning to forget what my Edinburgh house looks like,’ he said.”
Depriving this buccaneering crook of some of his various properties might enable him to concentrate on his wee house in Edinburgh and also spare him the need for psychotherapy a la Draper. I bet that house needs some new bath plugs and garden gnomes of Zurich.
I propose a simple solution to this ghastly mess:
1. MPs’ salaries and expenses must not be decided by MPs. Maybe a local referendum could decide this.
2. NO ’second home allowance’ at all for ANYONE. The same rules must apply as for members of HM Forces. Only hotel or hostel accommodation provided – and the cost thereof regularly reported.
3. All MPs must have a residence in or near their constituency, to make them real representatives and to be available to their constituents.
4. All MP salaries and expenses MUST be published in local newpapers. If they are happy to take public money, they must be ready to account for it – as the rest of us schmucks have to do.
5. Family members, boyfriends, concubines etc must be prohibited by law on nepotism rules from being paid ‘assistants’.
Now stand for election and propose it.
I forbid anyone to look into the legitimate expenses of Smith,Hoon, Darling or Brown who are doing a difficult job getting hard working families through this difficult time that started in America.
Anyone mentioning my name in vain will get a letter from my solicitor.I am the self appointed internet guardian and no one crosses me.
You wont be laughing when I get your details from my friends in the home office internet monitoring centre.
My solicitors will be in touch.
Pillock!
Not YOU Mr Draper, Sir!
You are a very, very nice man.
You are very well turned out & don’t (as others will have us believe) smell of stale sweat, faeces or urine!
You are, as Andrew Neil has pointed out, the most respected man in British Political Life.
PLEASE DON’T SEND MR POLICEMAN TO ME…PLEASE!!!
Mr Jardon
Is it true that you blew off all over Mrs Drapers tits when you were 17?
I have read this accusation and think it highly likely.
I was 16 so beat you to it.
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18/20090406/tuk-british-car-sales-drop-30-in-march-a7ad41d.html
i thought mc cuckoo had saved the world?
now where are those 400, 000 green jobs and 100,000 roof laggers?
Same place as my free computer and broadband link.
not forgetting the hoards of wall cavity insulators !
and all thegovernment schemes to help people struggling to pay mortgages (none of which have started)
Government says it is providing “real help” to the unemployed. Of course, nothing has happened in concrete terms.
Boris Johnson announces half price travel for the unemployed in London; not a peep out of the media?
If this was a Labour politician, it would be all over the news, alongside visits to job centres, training programmes etc etc.
http://www.london.gov.uk/view_press_release.jsp?releaseid=21618
“There’s a time for party politics but right now, we all need to pull together and support our Government.”
I done bought me a copy of ” A Tryst with my Wrist” by Tim Ney ‘n’ I’ll Fedex my granpappy’s rusty truss to your cabinet office next day. Yes Sir. Your PM – always lookin so sharp an’ all will prob’ly wear it for a hat!
I can’t tell you how grateful I am.
I REALLY need those book sales, with the old millstone due to be kicked out at the next GE. I have no idea how we will afford the Broadband connection once she loses her job.
Please let me know what you think.
I’m trying to get as much feedback as possible before writing the sequel.
I’ve got a synopsis, but it needs a lot of polishing before I start on the first draft.
Basically it’s about white collar crime at the very top of government – Geoff says it’s very realistic and Ali says all the details are right – but of course it’s totally fictional…
Harman Pride
I have always wanted what’s best for me
Sadly, I , just Like McMental am a complete fucking lunatic and have got things wrong in my life, however, unlike McMental I am prepared to admit to my occasional lunacy and change course.
The Prime Mentalist is just like the captain of a ship in a storm who thinks its a really good idea to try and power through that 100ft perfect wave.
In short he is a total and utter stupid gnikcuf tnuc
Can I just add
Thieving scum=Labour
“There’s a time for party politics but right now, we all need to pull together and support our Government.”
A support is always under pressure and prone to break if overstressed.
A description of the British taxpayer if ever there was one.
Derek
Can I shag your wife?
I’m a fit 45, have my own hair and teeth, an 8 inch penis, am tanned and well groomed, can say the word “party” without an “eh” on the end
I am a repeater
I like water sports, mild bondage and spanking.
I dont mind if you watch just as long as you dont try and touch me.
Beast
Are you trying to move in on my girl.
Lets settle this outside now.
Anton , mate
Theres plenty for us all
I dont mind taking either end , I just dont want Dolly blowing off on me or sweating on me nor tickling my balls.
Wish I still had my Spitfire…..
Have I ever mentioned that I may have nobbed a certain Mrs D, when I was 17 y.o?
Bit of a picky bugger aren’t you.
No. *I’m* Droopercus!
You have got to hand it to “gordon is a one eyed moron” for organising an earthquake to take the heat off the thieving scumbags in his party.
Patprimer 74, come back to House Price Crash where we can take the piss out of you. You are out of your depth posting on Guido.
You are not even a good Labour Troll anymore. Just a sad washed up scruffbag aka Dolly Draper.
Wot a Plonker!
Yep.
You see..I’ve paid my mortgage off!!
I’ve got savings in the bank
I’m with Bupa….
You see..I’m a socialist, just like you!!!
Hymen Prick,
When does history, in your eyes become just that?
You KNOW that unemployment (the TRUE figure) is at a all time high..Don’t you?
You know that the UK had to get out of the ERM…Don’t you?
You KNOW which one eyed, pants wetting Hoon supported the Tories for entering the ERM…Don’t you?
Bog off…your sister’s in her bedroom & is waiting for you!
Never mind stoping the expenses gravey train in the future what about the money they have already pilferd.We the taxpayer want our Fucking Money Back!
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The Darling person also has a holiday cottage on the Isle of Lewis
Ladies and Gentlemen you must understand what a difficult job Alistair has to do. The economy is a complete basket case all the money was plundered by the previous Chancellor and lots of unpaid bills and IOU’s were heaped up on the desk. He has to deal with his mentally ill boss whose been trapped into a sham marriage and can no longer enjoy himself hanging out with the boys in Martha’s Vineyard.
Who could deny Alistair a few wee fiddles on the side given the above circumstances? He has to think of the future and have a comfortable lifeboat ready for when the ship finally goes down.
Fucdiffino
“Cottaging” is very popular in the Labour party.
McMental, Dame kaufman, oooo get her Frank Field, Lord Fondlesthebums of Boys, Nick Brownhatter, not that the Conservatives are any less shy when it comes to a bit of man on man action.
The Hoons fuck us up the arse financialy then pop down to Hampstead Heath(another poof) for a quick chat with George Michael , a little light Badger baiting followed by a convivial chat with an elderley rastafarian and the accidental loss of £100.
HOONS!
Brown hatting, it’s the Labour way.
Wikipedia provides a precis:
On 14 January 1978, during the tour’s final date at the Winterland Ballroom in San Francisco, a disillusioned Rotten introduced the band’s encore… …”No Fun”. At the end of the song, Rotten, kneeling on the stage, chanted an unambiguous declaration, “This is no fun. No fun. This is no fun—at all. No fun.” As the final cymbal crash died away, Rotten addressed the audience directly—”Ah-ha-ha. Ever get the feeling you’ve been cheated?
The mid seventies. An ‘Old’ Labour Govt under ‘Sunny’ Jim Callaghan; the unions holding the country to ransom; IMF begging bowl; a feeling of profound despair among the young lads and lasses of the day.
Thus, punk was born. Jon Savage writes in ‘England’s Dreaming’:
‘…By July 1975, England was in recession. The unemployment figures for that month were the worst since (WW2): school-leavers were among the most vulnerable. Not only had the output shrunk, but public spending had risen to 45 per cent of the national income, and was threatening to unbalance the whole economy.’
Anyone want to start a band?
Darling you’re a kunt, and you’re not having my ring back.
Of course Darling is another Public School knobhead who joined the Labour Party just to gain power in Scotland. Pathetic bunch.
Ms Harman acknowledged that the reputation of Parliament had suffered “big damage”
The bleating of the like of Hoon “I’m not breaking any rules” is really the equivalent of a 45 year old man shagging a 16 year old girl and saying the same. It don’t make it right.
Ballbags
There has not been 1 MP as far as I can see who has come out of the avalanche of invoices and condemned the MP’s for extorting their expenses. This then leaves the only conclusion that they all extorting expenses form the taxpayer especially in Labour but not exclusively, and the silence form the Conservatives is defining yet not surprising as they appear to be up to their greedy snouts extorting expenses too!
I would like to ask the question where is John Lyon the faceless chair of the committee on parliamentary standards?
This bureaucrat gets £108k a year form the public purse this obviously makes him a public servant therefore he is answerable to the public.
This faceless bureaucrat has never been seen and he seems able to skulk around like some ghostly spirit.
As a publicly paid alleged enforcer he should be on TV, Radio and in the press explaining in great detail what he is doing about the misappropriation of public money and when is he going to do it he is after all being very well paid by us the taxpayer!
Also the weak Nuremburg defence used by the arrogant MP swine will not save them form the court of public opinion.
The solution if feel is in our hands, in the June EU elections we should vote for any candidate other than those form the 3 main parties. And when the next general election comes the same should be done. This would make proverbial run down the legs of the politicos they would then need to clean up the stench that surrounds them!
John Lyon= Misconduct in public office
does anyone know if these theiving bastards pay council tax on their many homes or are they exempt because they write all the fucking rules.
I think they claim the 2nd home council tax back as an expense
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All this sheds new light on why MPs were desperate to keep the house price bubble alive, despite the damage it wrought on the economy.
I mean, they wouldn’t want the value of those taxpayer funded ‘investments’ -sorry, I meant second ‘homes’ – to go tits up on them, would they?
Did any of the organisers of the French revolution write any manuals on how to do it.
I’ve tried Amazon but can’t find anything on there.
This is the Sun’s take on the expenses claims by Gordon Brown, Darling, Hoon, and Smith.
“Whichever way these ministers twist and turn, their conduct is despicable.”
The Sun generally writes what it knows it’s readers want to hear, things are looking sweaty for the saviour of the world.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/sun_says/article244723.ece
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The Alistair Darling debacle irritates and angers me more than anyone could possibly imagine. I was taken to court by Mr Darling and his merry band of henchmen in 2006 having quite correctly liquidate a business back in 2003. I was taken through the high court in a case which was farcical and rediculous and when I won (which I most certainly did) I was awarded just a fraction of my direct legal costs as compensation let alone my full related costs. The outcome….. well I lost both of my houses, my savings, my business and finally declared myself bankcrupt in 2008. And all along Darling is screwing the taxpayer to build up his own personal property portfolio.
These people are bastards and as socialists they should take all gains (legal or not) and share them with ‘the people’! I will get Darling back and although he will not respond to my letters he will very soon receive a statement of demand for my money back….. Mr Darling you are a wanker…..
Chancellor Chancer Darling was recently interview by Banker Bum, former city gent now snotty vagabond, and faced some stiff questioning. http://tinyurl.com/darlingbankerbum