April 5th, 2009

Sunday Sleaze Round-Up – MPs Spit in Our Faces

When Guido started his campaign against troughing MPs it was an occasional thing to to do a Sunday Sleaze Round-Up. Nowadays it is difficult to keep up with so many pigs in so much s**t:

Jacqui claimed for her barbecue as well as her kitchen sink to ‘help her perform her duties as an MP’.

MPs ‘not trusted’ to review their own pay and expenses according to the Committee for Standards in Public Life.

The News of the World has done a great video which seems to come from a familiar idea:

It accompanies their story on the husband and wife champion parliamentary troughing team to match and exceed the greedy pillaging of the taxpayers done by the Wintertons – the Robinsons. They get to trough in Westminster and at the Northern Ireland Assembly to the tune of an unbelievable £600,000 a year.

MPs have even claimed for their taxes out of your taxes. Genius. They charge stamp duty to expenses.

Guido has been shouting about the Green Book Rule changes which came into force on April Fools Day – and politicians really must take us for fools. To stop all the rule breaking by MPs they came up with a clever solution. Scrap the rules! Keep on troughing…

Finally Rudi Vis MP is retiring from troughing and will no longer be on burden on the taxpayers – just as soon as we finance his retirement home on expenses. Don’t forget to collect your gold-plated index-linked pension scheme…


348 Comments

  1. 1
    • 3
      Anonymous says:

      Why oh why oh why?

      • 53
      • 177
        iluvni says:

        Hooray that the despicable greed of the DUPs Robinson family is finally being highlighted.

      • 245
        Finallyseenthelight says:

        I am laughing my bollocks off at all this labour sleze.

        Whenever the next election is called, make sure you book a week off work, fill the fridge with good beer, get some mates round and have a party come election night.

        Coz its FUCK OFF LABOUR NIGHT!

      • 308
        Pete-s says:

        If you thought Parliament was a gravy train, this is a piece about what those mega EU porkers are up to.

        “New research from Open Europe has found that European Commissioners leaving office later this year will receive more than £1 million each in pension payments and so-called ‘transitional’ and ‘resettlement’ allowances.

        Long-serving Communications Commissioner Margot Wallstrom – whose main job has been to promote the EU – will receive almost £1.8 million if she leaves the Commission this year.

        Meanwhile, UK Commissioner Catherine Ashton, who replaced Lord Mandelson and who has been in the job for less than a year, will qualify for an ample pension of £9,600 a year, in addition to three years of ‘transition’ payments, valued at over £89,000 a year. On top of this, she will receive a £18,700 ‘resettlement’ allowance.

        This is in addition to the salaries and perks that Commissioners are entitled to during their term of service. Commissioners receive basic salaries of at least £220,000 a year (more for Vice-Presidents and the President) – meaning that in one five-year term alone, a Commissioner earns in excess of £1 million. “

    • 315
  2. 2

    [...] missed this the first time around – but Guido Fawkes picked up this amusing video from The News ofThe World: “Who wants to be a millionaire  [...]

  3. 4
    Mitch says:

    We need to give them the message,loud and clear that we are the people paying and we are pissed off.
    Protest wont work we are too scattered
    not voting ditto
    non payment..jail.
    How about we publish all these bastards home addresses and on a particular day we go stand in front and just watch them.
    Let them know we can find them when we want to perhaps string up an effigy with piano wire on the nearest lamp post.
    We need to act but not alone because they have the police.

    • 165
      Anonymous says:

      Excellent idea.
      We want the home addresses of MPs and other troughers.
      Like you said: protests are too impersonal, let’s become personal.

    • 176
      Adrian P says:

      Yea that would be kind of Scary, if a million lined the streets in silence as they rode in to work, great idea, we’ll that’s two of us, all we need now are 999,999,998 more people.

  4. 5
    oldrightie says:

    I have suddenly realised that these hoons appear not have excrement that smells, so clean do they believe themselves to be.

  5. 6

    Trouble is this leaves little time for politics! Oh hang on a minute, they are all on holiday. No one at Parliament. Korea pops off a ballistic missile , USA threatens to retaliate …Bugger Bognor I say and what was the G20 all about. Gordon saving his best statesman like appearances for closed session Tv cameras expelled events – thought through that one really well Gordon !
    Still must go watching the the ‘dishonest’ Lewis Hamiliton at the Malaysian about to start on BBC1 now there is anotjher ketle of fish that @wossy and the beardy stcik insect……contd page 94

  6. 7
    Wossat? says:

    Westminster isn’t a trough it’s a cesspit where the piss is taken big time and the shit is left to overflow.

  7. 8
    The big D says:

    Perhaps we are approaching this from the wrong direction. Envy and a sense of fair play are saying MPs should be judged by the same rules as the general public. Why not reverse the logic? The general public should be judged by the MPs rules. That would be fair play and get rid of envy. That way everybody can have multiple tax payer funded houses, tax payer funded barbecues, tax payer funded cable tv and internet, tax payer funded travel, tax payer funded porn, etc. etc.

    Labour = Financial competence – not.

  8. 9
    Taxfodder says:

    The jury is out on the Committee for Standards in Public Life too, as up and till now they have not been exactly the champions of the UK taxpayer themselves; suddenly they have developed a moral conscience.

    Why had they not seen fit to look into MP’s working the system for financial gain before?

    Perhaps because MP’s milking the Taxpayer was allowed within the rules?

    The UK taxpayer will be watching this development very, very carefully!

  9. 10
    Galloping Gurner says:

    Jacqui Kebab has annouced today that she never thought of resigning.
    No surprise there then.

    • 31
      talwin says:

      Had she done so it would really have queered Timney’s pitch. No more late night wanking if the missus might appear at the living room door!

      • 186
        Anonymous says:

        Don’t believe everything Jacqui Smith says. The second porn film was viewed on the Sunday night. She was in Redditch that night and in the house when the film was on. She probably watched it with her husband.

    • 46
      Plato says:

      When they were handing out ethics, she thought they said Essex and thought – urgh – I don’t want to live nr Jade Goody.

    • 171

      Electronic search terms;

      Di-isopropyl fluorophosphonate, scumbags, politicians, “it’s a gas!”, war on terror

    • 216
      Anonymous says:

      And why does Jacqui need 2 washing machines? Is one for her sister’s spare bedroom?

  10. 11
    Cato says:

    I hope they’re getting the message loud and strong ‘cos there’ll be trouble at t’mill if they don’t.

  11. 12
    Paul says:

    Did Jaquis hubby claim for the box of tissues too

  12. 13
    Jabithew says:

    That video is sheer genius. I particularly love the “‘Scot’ free” and the “Impartial message board at notw.com/go/fatcatmps”

  13. 14
    genghiz the kahn says:

    Isn’t it time that some FOI requests were made for MP’s Income Tax returns? Are they paying their fair shares of Capital Gains Tax on the sale of properties? Has Smith been honest about her principle private residende to HMRC or not?

    • 32
      digger says:

      that would be interesting.it would be nice to know if that ‘second home’ was suddenly the ‘first home’ when it comes to it’s sale.

  14. 15
    The $1 Trillion that actually turns out to be something rather less ! says:

    Alistair “cops a plea !” Austerity Budget will follow on heels of Brown’s “successful” G20 “New World Order” $1 Trillion bail out

    “We have to be realistic about this,” Darling said. “You cannot, you must not, build up false hope.” . I smell trouble ahead with the next door neighbour who has delusions of grandeur and continues to spend even though the bailiffs from IMF Collections are driving down the road ready to slap a possession order on his flat and re-possess his car !

    http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/economics/article6037167.ece

  15. 16
    Anonymous says:

    Whilst HOON let our lads be killed in battle by lack of funding he was funding his own three homes – perhaps he’d like to sell two homes and fund some kevlar jackets for our boys

    What an utter HOON!!!

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1167145/Three-homes-Hoon-Iraq-war-Minister-claimed-expenses-home-rented-second—lived-free.html

  16. 17
    Dick the Prick says:

    Hoon been renting out his digs whilst grave and favoured up – Huhne.

  17. 18
    nokia says:

    Fucking greedy bankers!

  18. 20
    Geoff Hoon MP says:

    I have not done anything wrong (up to the age of 1). I have not broken ‘the rules’- we made them unbreakable :) . The taxpayers are too stupid and lazy to do anything about my expense claims which proves I am a superior being and I have many references to my good character – Jacqui Smith, Michael Martin, Balls and Cooper, the Keens, the Wintertons, the Robinsons, Cohen, Beckett, Neil, Lait, Butler, McNulty, Spellman, Jowell, Conway and many, many more with whose names you will not be familiar – yet. There are also hundreds of British soldiers who would testify how well I’d run the MOD to protect their interests – if they were still alive. There are thousands more Iraqis who would speak good of me – if they were still of this world.

    I am indeed a worthy ‘honourable’ fashioned in the style of our great leader, financial genius and world saviour Mr Gordon Brown, famous throughout the land for resolving the 10p tax problem (which he created) and now getting on with the job of resolving the credit crisis in the UK – which he created when he was in America :) – while at the same time worrying very hard about the pension black hole – which he created when he was chancellor. Salam, Gordon.

    • 93
      Aberdeen Angus McDayie says:

      You are too modest. You omitted David Kelly. Do you not recall being asked by Hutton about your duty of care to employees of the MoD, as Minister responsible for directing his department? And what you said? And how you said it? You’d “delegated” your duty of care, you spluttered, in the way an elderly spinster might send away a waiter who’d just presented her with a dead mouse on a silver salver for afternoon tea.

      That was rich, wasn’t it? “Delegated my duty of care”. Ha ha ha. You sounded just like a barrister trying one out on a circuit court judge. Ha ha ha.

      Can you really be surprised that there are some who would “delegate” you from all your parliamentary expenses, and others who would “delegate” you from your vital force (what little there manifests)?

    • 143
      anon says:

      You are a hoon!

  19. 21
    Anonymous says:

    From tomorrow we are all on the Liebour Stalinists’ big snoop machine

    Telegraph

    • 37
      Anonymous says:

      They get all our details. Could they give us theirs (such as expense receipts) or are they too busy being outraged that someone has offered to sell them?

    • 45
      Anonymous says:

      For goodness sake, don’t let them know you have visited the Daily Telegraph website! There will be a knock on your door in the night.

    • 96
      get with the program says:

      Looks like standard snail mail will be coming back to good usage. All these rules are going to do is create so called ‘terrorists’ and people will be criminalised.

      If the more honest I am, the more I get fucked over, then what do you think would be the best course of action for the future?

    • 99
      Anon. says:

      Ways and means folks.

    • 108

      I wonder if someone (say me!) wrote a program to make a load of spurious data (say a few extra requests per real one) would it be popular?

      Give them a whole load of stuff to track.

      • 120
        Anonymous says:

        Add the keywords: bomb, strike etc to your signature file then format them white. That way the computers will pick them up and start processing – if everyone did that we’d soon run out of engine power

      • 121
        Budgie says:

        Excellent idea. This uses the system against the government in a peaceful and law abiding way. It would rapidly make the whole system unusable – a citizens’ strike like the slow moving trucks during the fuel protests.

      • 140
        Anonymous says:

        Yes please, with broadband speed gaining at the moment, you could do 10-1 in the spurious requests. May as well load up their servers.

      • 141
        Anon says:

        A friend of mine uses a similar approach – he embeds the word ‘jihad’ in his emails, hoping that he is wasting someone’s time down at project Echelon

      • 178
        another pissed off voter who will vote no more says:

        how about a program to email each mp – say every couple of seconds – about his/her expenses.

    • 164
      Anonymous says:

      If you’re a terrorist, you can use a pay as you go mobile or an internet cafe, or even wireless hot spots. As usual, this is not about crime at all, but councils being able to spy on citizens.

    • 166
      Anonymous says:

      Don’t forget to fuck up their snooping system withe key words, like:
      Jihad, explosives, bomb city, aluminium powder etc.
      Include them in all your communications

      • 179
        Lochduart says:

        Thanks, I have added these to my collection that I use to give Nigel and Dawn at CGHQ Cheltenham the vapours

  20. 22
    Labour Spokesman says:

    It’s just Jacqui being Jacqui, and Geoff being Geoff.

  21. 23
    Man in the Street says:

    They deserve to hang for this. In earlier times someone made of sterner stuff would have taken it upon themselves to blow the fucking place up.

    • 27

      Guido is trying a different approach this time – torturing them online.

      • 33
        the queen says:

        I suspect hanging, drawing and quartering them, and sticking their heads on a pole would contravene a number of health and safety regulations.

      • 39
        Anonymous says:

        32: And be too lenient

      • 67
        Gordon the McMentalist says:

        I would be totally in favour of extraordinary rendition of MPs, to some sunny faraway hellhole like Sudan, were it not for the fact these morally-bereft scum would probably claim the cost of their imprisonment and torture on expenses.

      • 131
        Gigits says:

        Guido, do you have any evidence that the hoons actually read this blog? They are so stuck up their own arseholes I can’t imagine it.

        Keep up the good work, though!

  22. 25
    crompton says:

    They should be impeached for stealing from the public coffers.

  23. 26
    Lord Peter of Hartypoof and Boy says:

    It will all make sense once the de-stigmatisers have been in.

  24. 29
    bustop says:

    This must not be allowed to go away – we do not need reform, at least not until we have had retribution. They should be sacked/resign and pay back their fraudulently gotten gains. What’s more the drones in the fees office need to be brought to account – what were they told to do? Who by? Or are they guilty themselves? Please do not let this go.

    • 36
      Mercian says:

      If a mugger gives you back some of what he stole from you, should he be let off?

      Why aren’t these people being prosecuted for fraud?

  25. 35

    Like this familiar idea?

  26. 38
    the pollitt says:

    Having all these homes must give them carbon footprints the size of Wales, the fucking hypocrites.

  27. 40
    The big D says:

    I wonder how pleased our service people are? The ones in the bullet stopping business must think it is just a shame that they are without the benefit of affordable body armour. (Unaffordable because the person who put them in the line of fire needed to maintain a property portfolio( that was within the rules).)

    Politicians wonder why they are not best liked?

    • 304
      Hysteria says:

      pity we can’t persuade the boys and girls to come home and apply some of their newly honed combat skills

  28. 41
    Anonymous says:

    When Government comes before the Law .. Tyranny is not far behind …

    Beware Zanulab .. as they say across the water .. “Our day will come” .. and you’ll be out on your arses …

  29. 42
    Anonymous says:

    Looks like the Robinsons are just another pair of maggots feeding off of the bloated corpse of British politics.

  30. 43
    Pugwash says:

    Were.nt the Robinsons so-called champions of Protestantism?

    • 51

      No, she was the one being skewered by Dustin Hoffman in the Graduate, and he was chairman of Brain of Britain (and still is, if I recall).

  31. 47
    Elguapo says:

    It would be interesting to see what income multiples various MP’s mortgages are on and how they got them. This Rudi I’ve never head of had a 480k mortgage, I assume he was on a typical backbenchers salary?

    You could make an interesting peice on irresponsable borrowing by MP’s.

  32. 48
    UK DebtSlave says:

    INSTRUCTIONS TO THE ENSLAVED PLEBS…..SORRY, TAXPAYERS

    1. Take one Union Jack flag

    2. Wrap it around a smooth cylindrical object

    3. Bend over

    4. Insert it into your anus

    5. Smile and take it like a man

    END OF INSTRUCTION

  33. 49
    Andy Coulson says:

    Aren’t I brilliant! First I get the goons at the Mail on Sunday to turn over Geoff Hoon for claiming on his second home while using a grace and favour residence – using data our brilliant team at CCHQ suppplied.
    Then, I get Dave C to write a piece on the same day about how our lot won’t be able to get second home allowances while living in grace and favour homes.
    A masterstroke!
    Just wait until we start deploying our, ahem, details of interesting phone calls.

  34. 50
    John Peel says:

    What worries me is that most of the people talking about piano wire are the same ones who were celebrating the police bashing the protestors during the week.

    When the people of Britain finally wake up and try to take direct action, they’ll find this class of political conmen have already anticipated the backlash and created a legal system that prevents us doing anything about it.

    You may take issue with the views of last week’s protestors, but they gave you advanced warning of the police state we now live in.

    And you celebrated that?

    • 61
      DisgustedupNorth says:

      JP
      I totally agree, to me and the missus(who’s not political minded) the police tactics were deliberately designed to cause trouble.It was all peaceful before they started lashing out.

      Labour have been working towards this for a long time.
      ID cards
      Cameras
      Data retention

      NuLabor=Stalinists

      • 90
        RavingMad says:

        Agree entirely.

        Still we can now look forward to having our emails read and our websites monitored as well. When did the population debate and agree this exactly??

    • 73

      Agree. ‘Kettling’ the protestors by the branch of the RBS was asking for trouble. All it did was deny the protestors the right to march and demonstrate peacefully. The same thing happened in 2001 when protestors were contained by the police on all sides.

      • 83
        Anonymous says:

        and deliberately leaving the windows on the bank we all now own unboarded encouraging a little glass smashing so they could move in heavies and repeat the jean charles menezes scenario.

    • 174
      Anonymous says:

      Yes that was odd. Lots of talk of banning protest too. Complete hypocrisy to criticise nulabour’s authoritarianism and then to applaud police brutality. Because they’d never get off their backsides and protest about anything.

    • 329
      Do you ken? says:

      What’s it like on your planet?

  35. 52

    How about all MPs putting their assets in to blind trusts for the length of their tenure.

    No directorships, no ‘seconding’ to lobbying firms and no other ‘second’ jobs.

    Salary to be £100,000 (index linked) and expenses limited to what the average executive would expect. The expenses to be published quarterly. Once the MP has submitted expenses there should be no opportunity for redaction.

    • 57
      Twizzle says:

      How about simply having someone put themselves up for election who can actually be trusted not to enrich themselves whilst ‘keeping within the rules’?

      These hoons are meant to be OUR representatives. They are meant to work FOR US. Fannying around with the system simply won’t work.

      Rulses never work for lying, cheating bastards, do they.

    • 103
      Gordon the McMentalist says:

      How about they buy the hotel on the South Bank that used to be the GLC HQ. Then MP’s have a place to stay in London in the event of a late debate or having missed the last train. No need at all for a second home in London, you can cancel the ACA and no need for the John Lewis list either.

      • 223
        Rob says:

        A better idea is to pay a flat daily rate for anyone outside London who happens to be actually working in Parliament on the day and which is monitored by the process of signing in on arrival and out when finished or am I getting too technical?

      • 297
        H says:

        Wot Rob! – you mean like the little people do!

        Can’t see that catching on in HOC

    • 175
      Anonymous says:

      Fuck off! This lot aren’t worth £10k per year, let alone a hundred. The most useless, greedy, utterly inept government we have had for hundreds of years.

      • 200
        Lochduart says:

        I read many of your messages and agree with most. What you have not hightlighted enough is the fact that Jackboot Jaqui, Caravanning Cohen, and Troopkiller Hoon know that they will lose their seats in the next election and are feathering their nests now knowing that they will be unemployable as no company will consider taking on known expese fiddlers.

        Good evening to my readers Nigel and Dawn at CGHQ Cheltenham.

      • 299
        H says:

        But the worst thing is – they’re playing this expenses game in the hope that expenses are removed and salaries are increased. Therefore after the next election (when they don;t have a job) their pension is based on final salary!

    • 342

      It’s not a difficult job. Lots of people would like to do it for less. Entry is artificially restricted. Incumbents are ‘rent-seekers’. Pay should fall.

  36. 54
    Watch this Space says:

    (O/T)

    Doncaster social services in the sh1t again?

    I hear on the local grapevine there were some pretty shocking events last night. Another Bulger? Not made the news yet.

  37. 54
    John Peel says:

    Note to anyone with access: the next great scandal is in exposing how many of these mortgages were with Northern Rock, at what ‘special’ rates, and at what multiples.

    It *was* the New Labour bank, after all. Those shredders were trying to cover more than just Applegarth’s extra-curricular activities.

  38. 56
    • 58
      Twizzle says:

      It won’t until the working and lower class get off their arses and do something about it. Like riot. OH is right, keeping one’s nose clean just ain’t going to make the slightest difference. And the BBC is first port of call.

    • 60
      The big D says:

      In one of three places. 1. No more elections = labour in forever. 2. Conservative or labour win next election = same place as now but two years later. 3. Independents form the majority = no more whipped political parties. Maybe a slight chance of Britain being governed by it’s people. Haven’t calculated the odds of each result yet. Assistance welcomed.

      • 64
        Anon. says:

        3. Independents. please.

        I will more than likely vote for what some feel is a ‘bad’ party but if that is what is needed to shake up these duplicitous fucks then so be it. Once the log jam has been broken there should be a) more public discourse on the state of Parliament and therefore b) more of an opportunity to take the game to them and force change.

    • 343

      It is likely to end in Britain becoming an Atlantic island Zimbabwe.

  39. 59
    Abdullah Abdullah So good they named me twice says:

    Thanks to the algorithm on this website. I nearly choked on my breakfast this morning when I saw the headline on the BBC website “Hoon caught up in new claims row”

  40. 62
    Pat says:

    Now if a local authority worker buys a pair of boots on expenses to use at work, he is expected to hand thaem back on leaving- they are of course of no use but it makes the point that they are for work purposes only. Presumably other organisations work similarly.
    Surely the answer is just to take the MPs second homes, including furnishings, back when they leave office- and if the second home was rented to take back the income from that as well.

    • 66
      Anon. says:

      Too much work. Just don’t allow it in the first place. A funded 1 bedroom flat / bedroom in a block. No expenses related to property or the John Lewis list allowed. No more and no less.

  41. 63
    Anonymous says:

    Despite a clear criminal act taking place, the Met have said they will not be investigating Nigel Griffiths for misconduct in Public office as it is a matter for the Standards Commisionaire. The Standards( and I used that word advisedly) commisionaire has stated it is not a matter for him as it is a private matter !!!!
    What the fuck is going on in this corrupt country of ours, this lying cheating hoon of a politician is just getting away with it even though other public servants have been prosecuted and in some cases imprisioned for the same type of conduct !

    This is now officially a state corupt to the core !

    • 78
      UK DebtSlave says:

      The police force are revenue collectors for the state via enforcment of Acts and Statutes passed by parliament. We gave them the mandate to enslave us

      Common Law crimes such as fraud by politicians and bankers are expensive and non profit making.

      This is why they wont be investigated

      It’s much easier to fine you for some minor infringement of an Act or Statute. They have profits to make and targets to meet.

      Police forces are private corporations and they exist to MAKE PROFIT

      You can find your locl police force listed as a corporation on a credit rating agency such as http://dnb.com

      So remember to close the lid on your wheelie bin and observe speed limits at all times.

      Be a good obedient debt slave.

      • 92
        RavingMad says:

        nah, they’re the civil army, based in this country, with a commitment to kettle the whole nation’s population into a field in Hertfordshire. The exclusive Elites and Celebrity Club then come down and throw winegums at the massed hordes, gaffawing and falling over backwards in the process.

        SAY HELLO TO FASCISM

    • 181
      Anonymous says:

      He probably has some dirt on someone important.

  42. 65
    adge says:

    just watched A Boulton on Sky talking to GB about calling an election, GB just doesnt like that word election does he, he won’t even say the word, anyway, he’s wet himself and bottled out of it again, .

  43. 68
    Anonymous says:

    Who the bloody hell is Rudi Vis MP and why the fu*k am I funding his retirement pad?

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6036476.ece

  44. 69
    Anonymous says:

    These greedy, thieving Labour MPs make those Tories in the nineties look like a bunch of choirboys in comparison. Yet, remember the fuss the BBC made back then about Tory sleaze. It was on the news every night and regular Panorama exposes of stuff that seems pretty insignificant these days.

    It’s funny how the BBC rarely mentions the far bigger sleaze now carried out by Labour politicians and Panorama just isn’t interested.

    • 80
      Anon. says:

      choirboys? queerboys surely?

    • 136
      Gigits says:

      The BBC (Pravda) is the government voice. As long as the Government is Socialist.

      • 185
        JMT says:

        I think the majority of Tory Sleaze was bedhopping – and the rest was amateur-night compared to labour Sleaze.

        Drunk on Power, Drunk on the trappings of Power – I thought that was supposed to be Blair warning his troops, not encouraging them!!

  45. 70
    hovis says:

    A fish rots from the head … and boy is it rotten around here ..

  46. 72
    Plato says:

    And to think how many were outraged at Neil Hamilton’s antics FFS. It got the Man in the White Suit out and now I do wonder if this had been going on in the background all along…

    Brings a whole new dimension to the expression ‘anti-trust’.

  47. 74
    adge says:

    I’ve also noticed whenever interviewing a tory polition the interviewer always interupts and does not allow the polition to complete the question they were asked, unlike when interviewing a labour polition they seem to have full run of the question and more. I wonder do the BBC have a bonus sceme, just a thought.

    • 79
      Plato says:

      Is a polition what happens when you cross an politician and pollution? Sounds about right to me.

    • 125
      The BBC - it's what we do says:

      Where have you been for the past 12 years – the BBC is part of the Labour Spin machine.Its news editors and producers have their own agenda and that’s before we’re even on to the actual interviewers and political correspondents. Notice how they call Ministers by their first names and Tories by their surnames

      It should be perfectly clear according to the BBC that although the Tories have been out of power for 12 years and Margaret Thatcher for 19 years EVERYTHING including the financial regulations;the mortgage re-possessions;increases in unemployment ;the single market etc will be blamed for the present financial crisis and therefore the Tories fault – QED.. It’s like saying that Asquith was responsible for the Great Depression.

      Chancellor of the Exchequer/Prime Minister MacAvity Brown – Saviour and Author of the New World Order was responsible for absolutely nothing got it ?( even in “off the record” briefings during the Blair years it was made clear that Gordon was the “real” Prime Minister and that ALL domestic policy went over his desk for approval)

      It’s a totally pointless exercise expecting the BBC to be impartial – they have always favoured Labour. Get used to it and regard their political reporting with suspicion and you won’t go far wrong

      • 183
        Brownbadger says:

        Why the fuck should I pay a licence fee and just accept it?

        I would happily see the BBC wiped from the airwaves. A shame because they are quite good for many things, but for their biased reporting they are just taking the piss.

      • 192
        anonanon says:

        don’t pay the fee, i have not for over 4 years now, i just ignore every letter they send me. I do not watch any programme on BBC and the day they take me to court, i will ask them to prove that i watch any of their tat.

      • 208
        Lochduart says:

        It is even worse than that, just think of what happened when some loony left wing woman took over producing the Archers. mad stories, political correctness,improbable ethnic mixes,ect ,ect made the programme so bad many of us stopped listening But they still collect a licence fee to fund this rubbish.
        Thatcher failed to close down that nest of vipers the “Today” farce.

    • 134
      grobdj says:

      Yes, instructions are yelled into said interviewer’s earpiece, and deference points are awarded each time he/she obeys. Notice how a gaggle of BBC presenters dissolve into a fit of unconvincing laughter at the same moment, when the order comes through the earpiece. At the end of the year, those with the greatest number of deference points go on to keep their jobs.

      No different to a tabloid newspaper really, but sadly most people actually believe the BBC’s political coverage to be unbiased.

      Watch Fox, or Sky News sometime, the same method is employed, but the presenters/interviewers do not have to pretend that they are impartial, they blatantly spout Murdoch’s viewpoint, or indulge in character assassinations disguised as discussion, e.g. Banker hate (takes the heat off Brown and Darling) Jacko is a Wacko, Palestinians deserve it etc

      Those responsible at the BBC call themselves ‘editors’

      Used to be known as propaganda, but that only happens when the state controls the media…….

    • 330
      I'mTooAngryForMyShirt says:

      The bbc are nulab’s rent boys and they like tax-payer money as much as any troughing scumbag mp.

      I just wonder if there are enough lamp-posts in London for them all.

  48. 75
    pp says:

    What we really have to focus on is one simple point.

    MPs are elected for one parliament and have no right of tenure.

    There is absolutely no reason for anyone to think that the reward we offer to MPs in a new parliament need bear any relation to what has been offered in a previous one.

    We (the public) can start the new parliament with a clean slate – what package do we want to offer MPs in the new parliament?

    Get a citizens jury together to decide.

    (But don’t stop nailing the cheating bastards in the current one).

    Paul for MEP – http://pauper01.blogspot.com !

    • 346

      Why should they receive uniform payment anyway? Why should they receive more than they received in previous genuine non-state jobs? If their temporary task is to represent the electors of an area, why not let those electors decide how much to pay their messengers on each occasion – perhaps only after each parliament, so the public can assess the results achieved and pay accordingly, and make sure they pay individually in cash – not via the state?

  49. 76
    Anonymous says:

    Guido has been shouting about …
    Forget shouting Guido, get out the barrels of gunpowder instead. Just remember that our part-time MPs are on holiday for most of the year and when not on holiday can only be bothered to turn up at the House of Commons from Tuesday to Thursday lunchtime.

  50. 77
    Anonymous says:

    The problem is the very people who need to change the laws in order to stop the public being robbed are those taking advantage of it in the first place!

    They are very quick at lining their own pockets, but not so quick at doing anything else at all!

    They do very little if anything at all for these secret perks.

    It’s no wonder that most of this terms efforts from MP’s have been devoted not to problems in this country and sorting them out but to ensuring they covered there tracks and stopped the public from finding out what they had been up too!

    In fact the only time I ever see them doing any work at all seems to be when there trying to cover up their mistakes or trying to blame someone else for their failures.

    They only seem to act quickly to hide things or make them secret from the public and no wonder when they are all on the take.

    It will be interesting to see if are any MP’s at all who haven’t taken advantage of the public!

    Oh and if they think giving themselves a huge pay rise to compensate for being caught out won’t go down well with the public either.

    I expect Lady mandyson will comment on it in the next few days to try and take the heat off Labour. But in reality most of the public don’t trust any party.

    I wonder how many months or years it will take to stop MP’s on the take?

    They just have a desperate choice.

    Which bunch of liars and cheats do you want to vote in next?

    • 189
      Brownbadger says:

      Personally, I would like to see a tank on evey street corner, every thieving lying MP rounded up, tried and found guilty and strung up from every lamp post in London. Some may have to be hung twice.

      Trouble is our damned tanks are no good.

      Ok then, I’ll settle for solving the ‘Scottish Question’.

      Why are the Scots ruling England?

      I’ll settle down once every one of them is sent packing back to Edinburgh where the Recession in the name of RBS, HBOS and Northern (MPs 2nd Home Mortagages our speciality) started (under Brown’s encouragement).

      • 347

        Scottish independence could come sooner than expected. Just as the Romans told the Britons to look after themselves when the last legions were withdrawn, so when the Westminster government runs out of cash, and can’t borrow any more, they may have to tell the Scots to expect no more subsidies, and just tax each other.

  51. 81

    Hanging is too good for them.

  52. 82
    Woman on a Raft says:

    Any ministers, politicians and apologists would do well to read “Bootleg” by Alex Shearer.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bootleg_(TV_serial)

    “When chocolate is banned by the newly elected GoodforYou political party, two 13-year-old boys and some surprising adult collaborators conspire to undermine this cruel law and bring down the government.” (BBC press office)
    They should pay attention to the ending and what happens when politicians are found to be imposing rules on other people which they gleefully ignore themselves.

    Available as novel, audio book, and anime for mobile phone. The acclaimed 3-part tv series (a BBC co-production) does not appear to be available currently. There is a youtube clip which captures the menace.

  53. 84
    RavingMad says:

    Hoon truly is a HOON

  54. 86
    Anonymous says:

    as I understand most MPS are milliomaires, apparently Mr BROWN is a multi millionaire, with a large property portfolio, how is this possible for someone who has never worked in their life !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  55. 87
    Raving Loon says:

    It’s times like this I wish the 2nd amendment existed in the UK.

  56. 88
    Us Lords are at it too says:

    Plus the strange case of Lord Truscott, who went missing from his London mansion-a-terre and was strangely found in his “main home” in Bath the next day. The last place his wife expected him to be.
    Sunday People
    http://www.people.co.uk/news/tm_headline=labour-peer-in-cash-for-law-change-claims-triggers-police-hunt-after-going-missing&method=full&objectid=21254991&siteid=93463-name_page.html

  57. 89
    JessTheDog says:

    Is TCH a little exposed on this…seems deception or fraud to me, claiming for a second home, renting out the London pad, staying in a grace-and-favour flat???

    I hate TCH more now than ever before…didn’t think it was possible!

    http://jess-the-dog.blogspot.com/2009/04/thc-hoon-fraudulently-claims-for-and.html

  58. 91
    David Cameron MP says:

    When I’m elected, i’ll stop anyone with a grace and favour home from claiming for second home allowance. The other 600-odd honourable members can continue to build their property portfolios courtesy of the taxpayer, as now. Carry on chaps.

  59. 97

    NuLabia sleaze worsens by the week… I feel sick.

  60. 100
    chartered says:

    Pity they can’t run the country as efficiently as their own expenses claims.

  61. 102

    There is a message space advert for John Lewis running under this post. For washing machines!
    Guido..are you trying to take the piss?

  62. 104
    Anon. says:

    Is it just me or are they all Huhnes?

  63. 106
    Geo says:

    Next time some thieving MP says ‘it all within the rules’ … SOMEONE ask them who wrote the rules!

    • 111
      yahboo says:

      Yeah , and who was Chancellor for ten fuckwit years.

      • 122
        Indefensible says:

        Gordon has been spouting lots of nice noises about how to stop the expense fiddling – ALL OF A SUDDEN. He could have done this years ago.

        Now they’re all at it because they realise the ride on the gravy train is going to end soon.

  64. 109

    I am absolutely sick of hearing about this sort of thing now. We need complete reform of the rules right now. I have listed my suggestions here.

    And if I hear any politician use the phrase “It was within the rules” one more time…

    • 113
      Raving Loon says:

      I wonder how far it will go? Claiming for porn seemed pretty low, but 3 houses? What will be the biggest expenses fiddle? I willing to bet that one MP at least has got a tax payer funded thai bride business.

    • 119
      Plato says:

      I’m almost punch drunk with it all. What makes me so sick and angry is that they devised these ‘rules’ to make them as advantageous to themselves as possible.

      They aren’t ‘rules’ – they are a mechanism to take as much money as possible and ‘get away it’.

      The scale of it amazes me. I earn well above the average but could never dream of owning 2 houses nevermind 3 or creaming in £250k a year, refurbishing my house, employing my mates or kids and then some all off the back of others hardwork.

      And these people are meant to represent us and value public service – pah.

  65. 115

    I want to play in their blood.

    • 130
      UK DebtSlave says:

      That’s exactly the kind of response thay want people to have

      Don’t fall into their trap

      Violence will be met with violence, and they are armed. Our rights to bear arms in self-defense were taken deliberately.

      Lawful rebellion is a much better way forward. They only have power over us because we consent to fictions called Statutes and Acts. These are not laws. They are corporate contracts. You are private corporation in legalese and this is how the state abjudicates against you.

      If you believe that the state has failed in its duty of care and is in breach of contract, revoke your citizenship and become a sovereign, and live under Common Law jurisdiction only. FUCK THEM, in other words!

      http://www.tpuc.org

      • 202
        anonanon says:

        i think you will find that the rank and file of the police/armed forces are sick of it all as well, I served in the Army for 15 years and you will never meet a bigger bunch of right wing guys anywhere, i cannot say that about the police but i imagine it is much the same.

      • 320
        Taxfodder says:

        I have no problem with the rank and file police and armed forces, mostly they have to follow the rules and commands the establishment puppets set out, its their job.

        They also have to put up with inferior eqipment and pitifully poor management.

        They are used and abused, and they know it!

  66. 118
    Ratsniffer says:

    Let’s be honest these leftie former Polytechnic lecturers are just making hay while the sun shines. They know that in their former lives and jobs they’d never have had the chance to make any serious money, so the trough snaffling porkers are gorging while they can. Before they are out on their arses come the next general election.

    This is what happens when “socialists” get a sniff of power. Out go all their principles, it’s I’m all right jack, let’s play croquet, and fuck the working classes. Their college marxist wet dreams are forgotten as blind greed takes over, and like the last days of the nazis, they stuff their overnight bags with gems and treasures to pay for their exile after they have fled from the bunker.

  67. 123
    Geordie Girl says:

    I remember back in the day having a very busy shift and not being able to take my break because of an acute medical emergency on my ward. I took a risk and hurredly ate an egg sandwich left over from patients’ meals. Needless to say, got caught by my nursing officer and was read the riot act – told I was lucky not to be instantly dismissed for theft!! (I never was able to claim time off in lieu or pay for the countless hours of unpaid overtime I did – but that was another story altogether).

    Compare and contrast my experience with that of these avaricious, grasping sharks who legally get away with robbing the poor old British taxpayer blind. I am incensed by the injustice of it all and a general election cannot come soon enough. I will be in the happy position of being able to vote for Karen Lumley – Conservative candidate for Redditch. Hopefully we can kick the odious Jacqui Smith (and her equally hideous husband) out of power and on to the dole queue.

    • 127
      Ted Bundy says:

      Oh I do envy you being in a position to kick that grasping harridan and her horrible wanking husband out on their arses. In my area we have the equally grasping Derek Conway conclusively proving that MP’s of all parties are pigging out at the taxpayer’s expense.

      • 129

        Why the fuck wasn’t Conway thrown out of the Commons and a bye-election started way back when?

      • 182
        Plato says:

        It’s those pesky rules again – he can be thrown out of the Party, and suspended – oh for a whole few days [don't know if that is docked from his pay] and then he justs sits on his arse watching daytime TV or whatever for the next 18 months.

        Lovely jubbly.

    • 128
      UK DebtSlave says:

      Don’t waste your time voting for the Tories

      They all belong to the ‘MORE OF THE SAME’ party

      It really doesn’t make any bloody difference who you vote for. They’ll just keep on stealing from you.

      You have also ignored the likelyhood that we will be under the absolute corporate jurisdiction of the EU and the British parliament will be dissolved anyway.

      We may never have another general election in this country. They are trying their hardest to provoke civil war in the UK. that is why the media is suddenly ‘on the case’ regarding MP’s pensions.

      THEY WANT YOU to think MPs are all fraudsters and they want to provoke a violent reaction as a pretext for compelling people to live under martial law.

      And just to make you choke further, the spawn of satan, Tony Blair wishes to be the first president of the EU.

      Wecome to the Matrix

      • 187
        Pugwash says:

        if they are provoking a civil war – then lets fuckin’ have at it!
        Better than being shit on day in, day out.
        Lets get fuckin going!

      • 217
        Lochduart says:

        I only wish that there was a party that refused to send their MEP’s to the United States of Europe parliament. I would vote for them. UKIP have their snouts in that trough and are as bad as the British greedy grabers. T Blair turned Catholic to enlist the help of the French in securing his attempt to get appointed as Presidentof the U S of E

    • 137
      Gigits says:

      You ate an NHS sandwich? Fair play to you! You must’ve been starving!

      • 144
        Geordie Girl says:

        Yeh – heinous crime isn’t it!! (I made the sarnie myself using a couple of boiled eggs left over from breakfast so it was a tad more tasty than the NHS ready made variety).

    • 162
      Anonymous says:

      “on to the dole queue ” haven’t you had enough of them stealing your cash – St Helena on a one way ticket.

  68. 124
    caesars wife says:

    despite adam boulton eating too many twinkies whilst covering obama first 100 days , his gordon interview was quite interesting just get the bit “gordon blames alistair and just abandones him saying “the chancellors policy” , like as though he is seperate from his own chancellor.

    some rumours that the economy is running out of coontrol and labour arnt telling us .

    and why wouldnt gordon or alistair admit the moral case for mp s expenses instead of all this flannel of appoint an independent baord , i mean bloggers have sort of worked it out .

    as patricia hewitt might say “ill need more money if you expect me to suck on that”

  69. 126
    Man in the Street says:

    Good to see John Lewis’ washing machines are advertised just under your bit here. If there’s one redeeming factor in this it is that they are supporting a decent shop on Oxford Street.

    • 184
      Ruth Kelly's plaything says:

      A second redeeming feature – rather more important, in my view – is that the ads are helping to maintain this oasis of (mostly) free speech in a desert of PC rubbish.

      Power to your elbow, Lord Guido!

  70. 132
    Taxfodder says:

    I see Ken Clark is waffling on about MP’s expenses and allowances trying to play it all down in a condescending and weary way.

    He is a useless article in my humble opinion that we could all do with out.

    Put up or shut up Ken you are part of the “disease of sleaze” yourself.

    Why? Because you knew for years it was going on and did NOTHING!

    FAT NOTHING!

    Trying to play it down indeed, the UK taxpayer does not owe you and your kind a living!

    • 139
      UK DebtSlave says:

      Ken Clark is a closet Marxist

      He is also regular Bilderberg attendee

      He is also a director of British American Tobacco

      As a libertarian, I would defend anyone’s right to smoke, but I don’t approve of a director of a tobacco company being an elected representative of the people, especially when they raise so much revenue from smokers

    • 149
      Anonymous says:

      Hello Anticitizenone, I didn’t recognise you without your avatar.

  71. 133
    art1000 says:

    One thing that always struck me was that, as our ‘lawmakers’ were massively rewarded for speculating on property at the taxpayer’s expense, they had absolutely no personal interest in seeing the house price spiral controlled. In fact they more it roared ahead the more they would benefit. Talk about a conflict of interest!!

    I am sure if the MPs were to have had a bonus scheme tied to reducing government debt or the balance of payments deficit then we might have seen great strides made in these areas. Alas it is all too late now.

  72. 138
    RavingMad says:

    Can some New Labour MP come on here and tell me that they are now a multi-millionaire as a result of some rather excellent trough swilling at the expense of the public?

    Thought not!

    Corrupt, the lot of them!!

    • 146

      Hopefully we can make sure they don’t enjoy their stolen gains.

      Remember than 90% tax on bonuses in taxpayer owned businesses?

      Isn’t the house of commons a taxpayer owned business?

    • 331
      Aethelred says:

      Bo doubt the bbc will be quizzing them all about it any moment now.
      …errm

  73. 147
    Anonymous says:

    I am a menial at BBC Radio 4. Last Thursday all the news crews were instructed to talk positively about the G20 summit and were told in no uncertain terms not to mention the Halifax house price figures which showed another monthly fall of 1.9%.

    The whole ethos is to talk up the economy, talk up the government, and don’t criticise Gordon Brown.

    • 153
      Why are nulabourites so moronic? says:

      Thanks for the insight – sadly, a huge number of people think the BBC is just propaganda these days. They even refused to publish that a bystander had died at the G20 protests. While every other newspaper site has published independent witnesses describing police aggression towards the man (and no pelting of bottles), what does the BBC do? Ignore it of course. Because apparently the G20 was such a great success.

      They obviously never read the story about the boy who cried wolf.

    • 155
      yahboo says:

      So we’re not all paranoid on here after all. Thanks

    • 158
      scared says:

      i would like to ask you why ???
      why cant brown be criticised ?????

    • 159
      goebbels says:

      I might have asked you why nobody put their hands up and asked if it was their job to be a government media gatekeeper, but I know how peer pressure works.

    • 163
      IUnknown says:

      The whole lot of Government and MSM are simply designed to control what and when we are allowed to see. To think we used to laugh about the USSR and their media control and all the while, we have exactly the same.

      Take a look at this picture – I’m sure it’s fake.

    • 168
      Drapers Tools says:

      A shame they were probably too crafty to issue these instructions via e-mail.

    • 196
      Ruth Kelly's plaything says:

      I’ve just sent the following complaint to the BBC’s complaints system:-

      “The following post appeared on the political blog order-order.com:-

      “Anonymous says: April 5, 2009 at 5:40 pm I am a menial at BBC Radio 4. Last Thursday all the news crews were instructed to talk positively about the G20 summit and were told in no uncertain terms not to mention the Halifax house price figures which showed another monthly fall of 1.9%.

      “The whole ethos is to talk up the economy, talk up the government, and don’t criticise Gordon Brown.”

      “I realise that this might be a spoof. However, if there is a grain of truth in it, it is outrageous. Please will you comment? ”

      If a lot more of us did the same, we might, just possibly, get a response that means something, instead of the usual smooth garbage that they issue. Or we might scare them a little.

    • 206
      grobdj says:

      Brave blog from BBC menial, hope you can remain anonymous

      Good to know when writing their memoirs that BBC presenters will be able to say they were only following orders. Zig Heil

      • 305
        Hysteria says:

        i wonder who else in the public service are also minded to speak out – we have heard from the occasional military guy, whoever leaked the expenses information, now a BBC person – who else is out there with information?

        But I guess everyone is more concerned now about emails being snooped (or whatever the correct verb is

  74. 148
    eyes of the world says:

    Before i get into my rant where is John Lyon, he is a public servant who is Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards. Why is this man never seen answering our questions on what he is doing to sort out this theft form the taxpayer?

    In the week that MP’s have given themselves a pay rise of 2.33% that will give them an annual salary of £64,766. The charity Save the Children has warned that thousands of children in households of poor and financially hard pressed families are facing malnutrition. Save the Children said it will be setting up a crisis scheme to help these families for the first time in the UK. Also by the governments own admission we are in the worst recession since the 1930’s, the avarice of these people knows no bounds.

    What I would like to remind MP’s is that unlike many professions there is no qualification required to be an MP, in fact the village idiot can become an MP, in fact quite a few greedy idiots are MP’s. MP’s first and foremost there to represent the people and the nation not be separate form the people or the nation and fill their own pockets.

    In this week we have seen 1700 jobs go here in Northern Ireland so it will be cold comforting to know that our parliamentarians are getting their pay increase, when potently hundreds of thousands of UK workers face the possibility of unemployment. Yet they can clam ten’s of thousands and others hundred’s of thousands of pounds for alleged second homes, some of which our Honourable Members already own outright. Then if they are married they can clam twice for the same alleged second home and when they come to sell this house there is another Capital Gains Tax doge that MP’s can do. They can then clam thousands to furnish that alleged second home. With state of the art plasma TV’s, surround systems, kitchens, white goods, leather furniture, beds, soft furnishings, cable TV, their TV licences, their porn movies, bath plugs at 88p, people to clean the alleged home and anything else they can think of submitting an invoice for.

    We must not forget they also have family members on the pay role, being paid well over the market rate with not the necessary required qualifications and most of the appointments were given the job there was no open selection process. Their families are also permitted first class travel to visit them in their alleged second homes. Add to this you only need to be an MP for twelve consecutive years to be awarded the full Gold Plated Pension. There is no requirement to appear at all in parliament, the best holidays of any section of UK society, subsidised meals and booze and the only government building were you can legally smoke. Is it any wonder the MP’s gravy train is one that come election time ten’s of thousands clamber to jump aboard.

    We also have MP’s who are doing double jobs in regional governments and there are MP’s with consultancies and directorships earning ten’s of thousands more a year?

    Then there are generous settlement packages when they are no longer MP’s or ministers.

    The MP’s motto printed large on their bank statements. “Ask not what you can do for your country but what can your country can do for you”.

    The only difference I can see between an MP and a criminal is the MP’s make the law to suit their particular set of circumstances.

    What I would like to see are, MP’s getting twice the average wage, a fixed set of allowance for running their offices and an end to family members getting unadvertised jobs. The government should build apartments on government owned MOD land in London near to Parliament, where MP’s are given a two bedroom apartment. They must then furnish this apartment with their own money, the running costs, water, electric, gas, internet, security and council tax will be paid for by parliament. They can have the security they crave in a secure building close to parliament, and when they are unelected they move out and the newly elected MP moves in. MP’s will get travel permits to cover themselves and researchers for work solely connected with their duties as an MP, no family members will get free travel.
    The Pension will be on the same grounds as all other government workers pensions.
    There will be an end to subsidised meals and booze and the smoking ban will be brought in with immediate affect.

    If this government accommodation does happen it will be interesting to see how many MP’s use this accommodation and how often this accommodation is used?

    Lets look at the evidence, my MP like many other MP’s are members of a regional government. My MP is our local finance minister and deputy leader of his party. So how can he be two things at once and give of his best to parliament this needs answering not just on a value for money bases? Apart form being in parliament at question time or when there is a debate on Northern Ireland how much time does he and his colleague actually spend in parliament this would extend to MP’s who are members of other regional parliaments?

    No MP should be permitted to have a second job, consultancy and or directorship running the country should be their only concern. These second jobs, consultancies and or directorships are potential conflict of interests!

    There should be an independent committee drawn up form all aspects of UK society who will oversee MP’s pay and conditions.

    Put my name down for that committee if you like!

    MP’s should remember the words of Abraham Lincoln “Government of the People by the People for the People”

    This swine think they are doing us a favour by allegedly representing us at parliament.

    This swine think they are doing us a favour by allegedly representing us at parliament. More evidence of their taking the taxpayer for a ride

    My MP Nigel Dodds OBE is a member of my local regional government He is in fact our local finance minister and deputy leader of his party. So how can he be two things at once and give of his best? Apart form being in parliament at question time or when there is a debate on Northern Ireland how much time does he actually spend in parliament?

    He does however manage to collect:
    1. Cost for staying away from main home £22,992
    2. Office running costs £29 812
    3. Staffing costs £74,351
    4. Centrally purchased stationery £1,118
    5. Central IT provision £1,301
    6. Commons Allowance £10,111.

    This is just one MP and he has a second job. If this is what he gets for being an MP he then has a second set of expenses on top of this no wonder he is finance minister you would need a degree in economics to keep tabs on what he get in wages and expenses

    His party leader, the Right Honourable Peter Robinson MP is our first minister and his wife, Iris Robinson MP they have clamed:
    1. Cost for staying away form main home/ her £20,478 him £19,864
    2. Office running costs/ her £8,079 him £ 15,301
    3. Staffing costs/ her £78.175 him £72,870
    4. Centrally purchased stationery/ her £879 him £288
    5. Central IT provision/ her £1,382 him £1,349
    6. Commons Allowance/ her £1,315 him £3,136

    On top of this they employ their children and their spouses. Nice little state funded political dynasty!

    Then there are the 5 Sinn Fein non MP’s who calmed the same set of expenses and they don’t even take there seat in parliament so they are not actually MP’s, but yet another nice little earner at our expense!

    How can they clam these expenses when they are part time MP’s at best and some are not even MP’s?

    Then there is the Right Honourables and the plain ordinary MP’s who have consultancies and directorships, no conflict of interest there, and when do they find the time for their MP’s work.
    Go here and find out what your MP is getting form the Taxpayer?
    http://www.parliament.uk/documents/upload/HoCallowances0708.pdf

    See how Jacqui Smith used out taxes to furnish her home!!

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1167576/Shamed-Jacqui-Smith-claimed-expenses-household-goods-including-barbecue.html

    You can get the information on your MP and their expenses at the link below:

    http://www.parliament.uk/documents/upload/HoCallowances0708.pdf

    Check out the married MP’s and MP’s who have second jobs as members of their regional governments?

    The question then must be asked if these MP’s are doing two jobs how effective as an MP are they, this also goes for MP’s who have consultancies and directorships and the conflict of interest it throws up?

    On top of this we have married MP’s who employ their children and their spouses! A nice little state funded political dynasty!

    There are 5 Non MP’s these Sinn Fein Non MP’s are collecting vast expenses and they refuse to take their seat in parliament!

  75. 150
    Why are nulabourites so moronic? says:

    The greedy, useless cow Smith even charged for her toothbrush holder. These people are the scum of Britain. Far worse than benefit cheats because at the same time they pilfer from the public purse they set about spying on the law-abiding public and ruining this country.

    How do you get someone charged with treason these days?

    • 152
      Drapers Tools says:

      You must be joking, treason has been deleted from the lexicon ever since British born Muslims started killing British troops.

      • 154
        Why are nulabourites so moronic? says:

        It might have been deleted from the lexicon but I’m pretty sure it’s still on the statute book.

    • 201
      Plato says:

      If only she had claimed for a bog-brush.

      What a sh!ts they are.

    • 293
      Anonymous says:

      I bet our MPs are the type who remove the light fittings and doors when they leave a property. After Smith’s unbelievable venality – not even ashamed to claim porn and toothbrush holders – I bet she is exactly the type to leave it worse than a squatter would.

      • 339
        Cohen the Barbarian says:

        The bastard people we bought our current house from did that. Not only did they take the light fittings, but they connected the wires up wrongly so that when we switched on the fuse kept blowing. Utter hoons.

  76. 151
    Pugwashed says:

    the Hoons… the Hoons…..

  77. 157
    Question says:

    When their taxpayer-subsidised homes appreciate in value, the MPs pocket the profit. What happens if one of these second homes is sold at a loss? Presumably the greedy Hoons would try and expense the loss??

  78. 160
    Faux Cul says:

    OK

    Why was the RBS branch, just beside the B of E not boarded up?

    Who was the clown, tarzan style, horsing the bin through the plate glass window, in full view of the photographers, several times? AP anyone?

    When the rozzers raided that squat, duly supported by the TV and dead tree press photographers, were they on a fishing trip or a photo op?

    Anyone see similarities with photographing the miscreants, with their hands fixed behind their backs with plastic cable ties (now there is an appropriate Police word) just as the good old US of A does with the Insurgents in Airak and the Alquida in Afghanistan?

    Have anybody in that squat been charged with anything beyond being young, ugly and smelly?

    That great Bristol swoop on people with political material and poor bath habits has resulted in how many prosecutions?

    All a great big fucking con, laid on by a totally politicised police, sniffing right up the arses of our corrupt politicians.

    Democracy, the Parliamentary side of my arse, it is.

    • 170
      IUnknown says:

      What about this guy that has been all around the MSM that quite clearly, has fake blood on him?

      Something is very wrong with this country.

      • 188
        Anonymous says:

        They didn’t just “forget” to board up the bank that was most likely to be attacked, they also herded the protesters in that direction. They wanted a riot, they wanted violence. A journalist overheard a riot officer saying “this is where the fun starts” just before they charged at peaceful protesters.

  79. 161
    Anonymous says:

    Darling: “The downturn since last autumn has been far deeper than people expected in any part of the world”

    Lying hoon.

    Only in bonkers labour/bbc land did people think that the downturn would be as short/shallow as darling said; everyone else on the planet told him back then that if he believed what he was saying then he must be a raving loony with no understanding of reality.

  80. 167
    Anonymous says:

    Brown: “Our first priority, and it is our first priority, is jobs and it’s homes and it’s businesses, That’s the only thing on my mind at the moment – how we can take the action that is necessary to take us through this downturn.”

    This explains very well why we’re all in so much shit as a country; he’s not thinking about government debt at all; to him it just doesn’t matter; the only thing that he understands is to borrow as much money as he can and throw it at as many public servants as he can.

    I say he should be hanged as a traitor for openly admitting that he simply isn’t even bothering to think about the trillions of pounds of debt that he’s landed us all with.

    • 169
      Raving Loon says:

      It’s the banksters and central banks wot did it.

    • 173
      mr bean says:

      The only thing McTwat thinks about is keeping his grubby fingers on the levers of power, election or no election.

      • 195
        JMT says:

        Why is he so scared of losing an election?

        Has he been up to so much evil fuckery, that he is facing aeons in jail when the truth comes out?

        The rest of the scum cannot wait to get out with their ill-gotten gains, and I am sure that the Snot-Gobblin’ has his pockets well filled.

      • 215
        anonanon says:

        he is scared of an election because as soon as the Tories get hold of the books, Liebore will never get back into power.

    • 213
      The Grim Reaper says:

      Allow me to make some small modifications to the quote from Gordon Brown you gave. All will become a little bit clearer afterwards.

      Brown said: “My first priority, and it is my priority, is my job and my (two) homes and my business. That’s the only thing on my mind at the moment – how I can take the action that is necessary to take me through this downturn and get re-elected.”

      • 218
        grobdj says:

        I rather think he’s lining himself up for a job at the IMF

        ‘I congratulate Mr Cameron on winning the election,,,blah blah blah ………I always had the interests of the people of this great country at heart… blah blah blah…… thank you to my wife Sarah blah blah blah………but now it is time to step down as Labour leader and….

        SPEND EVEN MORE OF OTHER PEOPLES MONEY, WITHOUT THE INCONVENIENCE OF AN ELECTORATE

    • 306
      Hysteria says:

      “Our first priority, and it is our first priority, is jobs and it’s homes and it’s businesses”

      Jobs, homes and businesses – that would be THREE first priorities then?

      No wonder we are fucked – the bastard can’t count………………….

  81. 172
    Anonymous says:

    Some people used to think I was taking the piss when I expensed my FedEx bill for my suitcases to hotels to save me dragging them to airports.

    They were real Huhnes. What the political class are doing is dry gang-humping us.

  82. 180
    Desperate Dan says:

    According to the Independent on Sunday, Tony Blair, the biggest crook of the all, is about to become President of the EU.

    • 190
      Anonymous says:

      I thought that couldn’t happen until Lisbon was ratified. Now watch the brain drain from the EU. Asia’s star really is rising.

    • 242
      Lochduart says:

      See my comment @ 216

  83. 194
    Anonymous says:

    What is wrong with the police these days? Are they so indocrinated by political correctness that they cannot recognise serious crime anymore?

    A young boy in Yorkshire is fighting for his life after being burned with cigarettes, slashed with a knife and slung down a steep embankment to die.

    A police source said: ‘It looks like there has been some sort of dispute between these young boys that has turned physical.”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1167708/Boys-10-11-arrested-child-burned-cigarettes-hit-brick-flung-embankment-fights-life.html

    • 199
      JMT says:

      It is sad, my dad was a cop for 35 years. When we had a Police Force, we had a service, now we have a Police Service and we have frig all.

      The same Police force have announced that it looks like the Pope is some sort of religious figurehead, it looks like Bears must defecate in wooded areas and it also looks like the Kennedys may be gunshy.

    • 334
      Aethelred says:

      They do know how to give a bloody good speeding ticket though

  84. 197
    Anonymous says:

    Harry “better than Churchill” Cohen under investigation.

    Link

  85. 204
    Carlos says:

    Anyone else noticed that the Beeb website no longer has a link down the left hand side straight to the Politics section? Could it be they don’t want the hoi polloi reading the political news?

    Guido, any chance of a look in to why this has changed?

    • 209

      It seems to be working now, unless al-Beeb have blacklisted your IP address. Wouldn’t put it past them.

    • 212
      The Grim Reaper says:

      Don’t know about you, but I can see the link – it’s in-between the Business and Health tabs. You might need to visit Specsavers.

      • 214
        Carlos says:

        Hmmm, odd. Still not showing for me.

      • 224
        Middle Englander says:

        Depends if you are looking at the ‘UK Version’ or ‘International Version’ of the site. Selection is on the LH side beneath the ‘Related BBC Sites’ heading

  86. 205
    Plato says:

    I’m very pleased to hear that Cohen ‘fill yer boots and buy a holiday home’ is being investigated whatever slap on the wrist that means.

    I can’t believe how brazen he has been in the MSM – he must think he is bullet-proof.

    For any readers who weren’t already aware – Her Majesty’s Government will be bringing in new snooping laws tomorrow.

    These will force ISPs and mobile operators to record and store for a period of 12 months every text, call, email, internet search and website that you visit.

    Oh and anyone you contact using sites such as Facebook or Linked-In.

    FFS what is going on??

    If you want to know a bit more about this – I’ve put together a post using data from the Bad Science blog

    Obo also has a novel way to clog up their servers with mush

    • 239

      Why are you so afraid of these new laws? Do you have anything to hide by any chance? If not, why are you afraid?

      We are currently in the midst of a War on Terror and in a time of war, freedoms inevitably have to be temporarily curtailed for the protection of the people.

      The Government is doing its best to protect you from international terrorism. If you refuse to cooperate with the government, measures will have to be taken against you – because the Government must investigate ALL potential threats to security.

      • 246
        Wim Dit says:

        Yes and i’d trust the police and other government agencies with my personal data….not.

        I mean how else are we going to determine what people should or shouldn’t be able to see? Perfect eh?

        Oh and I also note the story in Private Eye about electoral voting fraud courtesy of the Labour Party. Seems they’ll be able to make sure we’re reading the internet looking at stuff we should be and towing the party line.

      • 269
        Twizzle says:

        HP. Please don’t take this personally but do you have a brain? Do you think things out for yourself or do you simply soak up the latest wheeze idea from the powers that be?

      • 323
        talwin says:

        “The Government is doing its best to protect you from international terrorism”. So that would be the government as represented by the knowledgeable, skilful, talented, charismatic anti-terrorism expert, Jacqui Smith, would it? Nothing to worry about there, then.

      • 332
        Aethelred says:

        “freedoms inevitably have to be temporarily curtailed for the protection of the people.”

        Arbeit Macht Frei!

    • 254
      Mongston Charles Lynton Cnut MP says:

      Plato – So, tomorrow NuLab is exchanging the Red Rose for the Red Lidless Eye; may I draw your attention to these links…

      http://www.hushmail.com (free)
      http://www.anonymizer.com (not free, but cheap and very good)
      http://www.torproject.org (free)

      and also http://www.truecrypt.org. TrueCrypt is free and is, frankly, one of the best applications I know.

      Tell your friends, for if they have nothing to fear today, they will certainly have something to fear from tomorrow. That it should have come to this in
      Britain.

  87. 207
    Ex Dinner Lady says:

    I love that she DID throw in the kitchen sink. FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK!!!!!!

  88. 210
    Anonymous says:

    All politicians are scum, and we are no better when we vote for them (that includes NuLab/Tory). We deserve this shit.

  89. 211
    The Grim Reaper says:

    Does anyone know of a single blogging Labour MP who has actually written about this on their websites? I’m looking through the blogs of the usual suspects like Tom Harris and Kerry McCarthy, to name but two – and finding absolutely nothing. What are they all hiding from us?

  90. 220

    Another day, another little piggy caught with their snouts in the trough. I’ve just about had enough, and I figure the only way to really punish them is to take away their toys – so I’ve put myself up as a prospective Euro candidate via Jury Team. If you want to make a token gesture of your disgust with the way the piggies abuse their power, then text wilbar01 to 86837 (25p + normal network rate, check with the bill payer and don’t charge it to your expenses)…read my profile, I’d like you to support me but if you don’t agree with my position then do the next best thing and put yourself up as a prospective candidate.

    • 225
      Plato says:

      Good on you Mr Bill.

      Good Luck.

    • 230
      mr bean says:

      f you can’t beat them join them eh?

      • 252

        you are missing the point Mr Bean – they can be beaten, but its going to take a bit of effort. You got any better ideas? If so, share them. The easy option is to do nothing, and whine about how bad things are.

        latest update – 5 votes, as at 2150. Can we get into double figures by midnight?

  91. 226
    Anonymous says:

    Apparently Gordon Brown has more important things to consider than the public’s trust in MPs. What a stupid shithead.

  92. 227
    So17 says:

    Mr Timneys wanking habits have got me thinking.
    A mystery that has baffled housewifes for years may be solved.
    The Missing sock from the washing machine.
    Men have a wank now worry later mentality. The humble sock is perfect for cleaning the belly button of manfat and is almost always to hand/foot.
    Check under the bed or sofa Mrs Smith.
    I have spent the day in my shed and have invented for the next series of ‘Dragons Den’ the ‘GIP MIT’.
    A soft Terri Towling mitten (In White) that is machine washable.
    you could even have the face of your favourite Celeb embroided into the palm.
    What man could resist pumping his load into Harriet Harmans face.

  93. 228
    mister ed says:

    Ye are a factious Crew and Enemies of all good Government; Ye are a Pack of mercenary Wretches and would, like Esau, Sell your Country for a Mess of Pottage; and like Judas, betray your God for a few Pieces of Money; Is there a single Virtue now remaining amongst you?

    Is there one Vice that you do not possess? Ye have no more Religion than my horse! Gold is your God: Which of you have not bartered your Conscience for Bribes?

    Is there a Man amongst you that has the least care for the Good of the Commonwealth?

    Ye sordid prostitutes! Have you not defiled this Sacred Place, and turned the Lord’s Temple into a Den of Thieves by your immoral Principles and wicked Practices? Ye are grown intolerably odious to the whole Nation.

    Oliver Cromwell to Parliament, 1653

  94. 229
    Crocodile Dundee says:

    Here you are my friend = here are all of your MP’s email addresses. I am sending these to you from The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and hope the thieving pigs entrails are scattered far and wide for the vultures to suck on.

    clarkek@parliament.uk

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    • 235
      Plato says:

      Whoa – that is some post – and it didn’t get stuck in moderation either!

      Thanks Mr Dundee.

      May I suggest that this is also used as a global email list to express our disapproval too – natch whatever crimes they try to avoid next?

      • 236
        Anonymous says:

        all this and more can be found on the uk parliament website and the they_work_for_you website + you can email your MP straight from there.

    • 321
      another pissed off voter who will vote no more says:

      My experience is that the likelihood and speed of reply is better if sent through theyworkforyou.com whch maintains and publishes a record of each MP’s response performance – like with expenses, they don’t appreciate their shortcomings being made public..

    • 335
      Aethelred says:

      They all deserve to be reminded of Cromwell’s speech as posted above

  95. 231
    Anonymous says:

    “A soft Terri Towling mitten (In White) that is machine washable.”

    Bloody hell, have you been in my sock drawer??

  96. 233
    mr bean says:

    Thanks. I’ve just saved to notepad for future use.

  97. 234

    Cleansing; ethnic; search terms; racism; scumbags; expenses; Landed undelrcalss; NSA; terrorism; washing; discarded clothing; liberation;

  98. 237
    Boutros Boutros So good they named me twice says:

    O/T but I notice Kate Garraway is claiming in the press excessive morning sickness. Try not looking that looser in the face, or smelling him, when you wake up?

  99. 241

    I don’t think the British public is that interested in the private lives of MPs.

    What matters is the economy and the fight against international terrorism. The PM is quite rightly getting on with the job and implementing real policies that will benefit real hard-working families, as well as making tough long-term decisions that will secure our children’s future.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7984711.stm

    ” Gordon Brown says he has more important issues than MPs’ expenses to deal with as fresh controversy grew about bills submitted by his transport secretary.

    Geoff Hoon insists he broke no rules in claiming second home allowances while living in a taxpayer-funded apartment.

    The Prime Minister said his focus was on the economy and fighting terrorism. “

    • 243
      mr bean says:

      Yeah, whatever.

    • 244
      anonanon says:

      You really are some brainwashed imbecile. Why don’t you go onto a Labour blog, or are they to boring with their Gordon is great, Gordon is correct in everything he has ever done or will ever do shit…in other words fuck off you rug munching cnut.

    • 249

      Harman_Pride is a troll. Nobody could be that stupid, not even a Draperbot.

    • 251
      scared says:

      sorry, ive got more chance of getting hit by a bus tomorrow…than some “turrurist”
      blowing me up

      i grew up with ira..blowing places up like manchester, !!!!, so “international turrurism”
      isnt high on my agenda….to be honest i couldnt give two hoots…labour dosnt support hard working families…the only labour support round my area is on the “estates” where no one has a job…never had and never will”..(and i grew up on those estates….i escaped !!..i have aspirations…and labour doesnt support me…only tax me to death..)

      but i am bothered abourt what HMG does with my taxes, i dont mind helpng the genuine poor (but only helpng the poor to help them selves…not giving them a life on handouts)

      but the thieving , lying, corrupt shower of shit that currently resides over the UK i do bother about !!!!!

      the only decision labour are securing on our childrens future is a life time of un asked for debt

      HP just fuck the fuckety off

      • 258
        anonanon says:

        i know what you mean, i was in the forces during the IRA conflict, i did 4 tours of Ireland in the 80′s, this manufactured terrorism from nulabor does not bother me, i want to be able to afford to bring my children up in a comfortable manner, i work hard, my wife works hard yet every month there seems to be less and less money, my company has told us there is a pay freeze this year so even less for me, my council tax has gone up, my gas/electric has gone up, food has gone up, even my fucking childcare has gone up, diesel has gone up again, these are the important things for me not this shit Broon is going on about, who fucking elected him anyway, i wish he would die with his shitty smirk that winds me up more than anything i can think about, more than that cnut HP who i would like to meet in a dark alley one night, and no HP it would not be for a knee trembler.

    • 256
      ordinary joe says:

      ” Gordon Brown says he has more important issues than MPs’ expenses to deal with as fresh controversy grew about bills submitted by his transport secretary.”

      Oh dear, that does sound rather arrogant doesn’t it? It won’t go down very well round my way.

    • 257
      Niaive_or_what_aplogist? says:

      don’t you need to get up for school tomorrow?

    • 260
      grobdj says:

      Real decisions on real issues affecting real hard-working real people require a real brain

      • 265
        Mongston Charles Lynton Cnut MP says:

        Real decisions on real issues affecting real hard-working real people should be made by those people themselves and the government should butt the fuck out.

        Butt the fuck?? Hmmm.

    • 261
      So17 says:

      Harman Pride, Glad your here.Would you model for my ‘GIP MIT’ invention?
      Doing some R&D I would like to see if your average male loses his Lob before he gets to Jizz in your face.

    • 270
      Twizzle says:

      Now you really are taking the piss!

      • 300
        King Karlos says:

        HP – in one sense you are correct in that IMHO most of the British public couldn’t give a rat’s ass what MPs get up to in private. However also IMHO I imagine that most would absolutely agree that when they use our public cash for their own private and personal enjoyment it is most definitely a public interest matter.
        Come the next election you will find out just exactly what the British public view as important. The reason Gordon Brown is trying to spin the agenda round is because he knows the utter contempt heaped upon the Major government during the sleaze scandals which were instrumental in their downfall at the 1997 election. How ironic that the same fools who took great pleasure in stoking the funeral pyre back then are about to get their comeuppance.

    • 311
      The big D says:

      …..The Prime Minister said his focus was on the economy and fighting terrorism.

      An opportunity missed. If he was to focus on diverting our money away from MP’s housing portfolios, questionable expenses and taxpayer funded pornography and towards equipment for the troops fighting his war on terror he might be more respected.

      Not holding my breath on that.

    • 318
      Ivor the Boneless says:

      As HP mentioned fighting the terrorists, I can’t let that go!
      When have Zanulab fought the terrorists on their watch, when they gave into IRA violence, when they unlawfully invaded Iraq, when they accept Taliban shit from Guantanamo Bay, when they give political assylum to Afganistan plane hijackers etc, etc.
      Now we are sending more service personnel to Afganistan to be shot at whilst defending a corrupt regime that will cave in the moment the troops leave. There we are talking about introducing democracy to a culture that still holds medieval values and whose latest legislation is to make rape inside marriage legal and to restrict womens rights. That is not fighting terrorism, if Zanulab were serious it would turn to the task of ridding the world of Al-Qaeda, the Taliban and Islamic jihadists. The west has the tools, such as fuel/air, EMP, Daisycutter and neutron bombs together with ground based field denial weapons such as MLRS that could cut the terrorists to pieces in Afganistan and Pakistan and serve as a warning to any other aspiring terrorist cult. Time to take the gloves off and afterwards get out of the region and leave it to its own devices as the Russians did.

  100. 247

    I would just like to point out (for anyone out there who hasn’t realized the obvious) that NuLab are absolute fucking Huhnes.

  101. 253
    Peter says:

    The logic is that MPs who live outside commuting distance of London need a second home.

    So why not provide them with a simple apartment for their use as long as they are an MP.

    The apartment would remain the property of the state and would simply be passed to the new MP when the current MP resigned or died.

    The MP would be responsible for furnishing the apartment and would receive a simple salary with no other expense claims considered, even for travel.

    • 263
      grobdj says:

      There are some disused apartments in the Tower of London which might be suitable

    • 271
      Able Seaman Sprout says:

      Why do we need to provide them with anything? Let them pay for everything out of their current salaries just like everyone else. The very fact that they’re able to buy 3rd homes shows they don’t need the money. They need to learn to live within their means like everyone else.

      • 310
        Hysteria says:

        gotta keep some perspective here guys – “like everyone else”? – most employers will pay reasonable expenses for nights away from home on business…………

        the point here I think is that we are the employer in this context and we are having the piss taken by the employees ( in my company expenses fraud is grounds for immediate dismissal)

        where we have regular overnight needs we have either contracts in place with hotels, or our own accomodation units – I see no reason why the same cannot be the case here. And as for claiming when they get free accomodation – What. The. Fuck !!!!!!

    • 324
      talwin says:

      I used to work for a chief exec. who visited London regularly on business and often needed to stay over, sometimes for several days. Although I don’t know London very well, I remember he used to stay at a place called (or in) Dolphin Square. Seemed fine for hime and he was something of a demanding bastard.

      • 325
        talwin says:

        Realise I have not made my point above very well. Apparently the Dolphin Square thing was a whopping big place, with shed-loads of decent accomodation, much used by business types (who, generally, were not trying to screw the arse out of the expenses system). Come to think of it that’s probably a good reason why the likes of Jacqui Smith would be unlikely to touch it with a barge-pole.

  102. 255
    I've shagged Darling's eyebrows says:

    Have you seen this Labour piece of shit

    http://www.brandrepublic.com/News/893817/Just-public-interest/

    • 259
      anonanon says:

      no shame at all.

      • 280
        scared says:

        i dont condone violence…but that man needs his smug face made to look like a picasso painting

    • 291
      King Karlos says:

      Utter bollocks. This man Hilton is a complete twat to suggest the Griffiths story is not in the public interest. NG was caught with his pants down – and by his own admission drunk – at his place of work. Anyone else would have been summarily dismissed for gross misconduct.

    • 292

      IT seems that, according to Labour, news of the breaking of a marriage contract by an MP is no longer in the public interest.

      I wonder when news of abusing the expenses is “no longer in the public interest”?

      • 296
        H says:

        They didn’t feel like that when the tories were in power!

        And I bet they will change their attitudes when tories are back in power!

  103. 262
    genghiz the kahn says:

    Nice to see that Darling is also a property mogul just like Jackie and Buffoon.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/5110227/Alistair-Darling-claims-thousands-for-third-home.html

    When will he show the capital gains liabilities or his income tax returns?

    either the MSM have been sitting biding their time, or someone has been leaking to discredit ZaNuLabour.

  104. 264
    genghiz the kahn says:

    IHT arrangements for Hoon, Smith and Darling might be interesting, as in limited liabilities thanks to family trusts, just like Benn and Milliband Major and Minor.

    Would these socialists barstewards like to put the record straight?

  105. 266
    Anonymous says:

    and don’t forget , Guido , every MP and family gets atomatic free parking at airports , regardless of for how long.

    • 275
      So17 says:

      ‘Atomatic free parking’ Those bastards. No wonder we have to keep dodging bomb craters at Heathrow. :)

  106. 267
    juliendicks says:

    yo anyone see how da gardian want to hang thatcher and they all complaind when sadam got hanged

  107. 282
  108. 285
    Anonymous says:

    Paul Boateng to be kicked out of South Africa. What’s the betting he will be heading for the House of Lords and a place in Browns government?

    “The disclosure that Mr Boateng, 58, is returning to Britain comes only months after the Daily Telegraph reported that the Foreign Office was investigating allegations that his wife Janet, 52, had bullied the black domestic staff.

    Ministers were alerted about the inquiry because of the sensitivity of the complaint against Mrs Boateng, a former Lambeth social worker, in post-apartheid South Africa. ”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/southafrica/5111671/Paul-Boateng-to-leave-Cape-Town-after-bullying-claims.html

  109. 286
  110. 287
    • 316
      Sarah says:

      The wife didn’t take long to start acting like the worst kind of white “Madam”.

  111. 288
    unemployed tory says:

    bloody hell the chancellor is at it as well (telegraph).

  112. 289
    a poor MP says:

    Have a heart Guv, the missus wants a new faberge egg. What’s a poor Member to do?
    The old one is dusty…

  113. 290
    mutley says:

    Has anyone ever looked at the Kinnock? Mrs K is an MEP, ‘Lord’ K is a Euro thingey and all their children got jobs with the European Commission…

  114. 294
    HOON says:

    My triple Hoon allowance is entirely within the rules .
    My being strapped to a wooden pole in front of some sand bags in Hyde Park as several squaddies grateful for my firm leadership and support load ,aim and fire at the white tag on my chest will vindicate this Government and all its efforts

  115. 295
    Anonymous says:

    Guido – can you do some digging into Jaqui Smith’s claim she didn’t know that it was porn her well paid husband was watching. As far as I’m aware, my partner couldn’t add a subscription to a porn channel without me approving it on the phone because the bill’s in my name. So if the bills are in her name, her claim that she didn’t know can be blown out of the water.

  116. 298
    HOON says:

    SO17 SAID

    The Missing sock from the washing machine.
    Men have a wank now worry later mentality. The humble sock is perfect for cleaning the belly button of manfat and is almost always to hand/foot.

    Your Bro did mention to me that his teen years were blighted by the mystery of those supiciously stiff salty smelling right socks that he kept finding by the bed

  117. 303
    Guardian Reporter says:

    Bloody hell, it’s quiet round here!

    I come here expecting a government crone to jump out of the screen or plod to knock on the door…. knock knock crash….ah someone’s broken the door down…..ah it’s Aunty Betty….hello i thought it was plod……ah it is plod, they’ve arrested her for sending a letter to her MP asking how much expenses he claims for his constituency second home, next door to his original second home and which now maybe his main home but he can’t remember. They’ve arrested me for coming on here so I can’t say anymore as they drag me along my hallway into the street … and into the van with my Aunty Betty….

    And in other news

    Newcastle United FC have today called in a joiner to remove their trophy cabinet.This is to make way for Alan Shearer’s ego.

    And finally, the government have installed a new magnet in No 11 Downing Street. This magnet will draw all of the country’s money to it. The scheme, run by apprentices in the new Government Plan – ‘Alistair Doesn’t Live Here Anymore’ hopes to attract money as quickly as possible to pay for MPs expenses and social policy courses for apprentices. The workers were a tad upset and the middle classes were rather chuffed at the size of the magnet.

  118. 307
    Oliver Shufflebottom says:

    In the coming elections there is room for a lot of “Clean up politics” candidates. Squeakly clean celebs perhaps.

    Jade would have been a certainty if she had stood. Come to think it, she still would be!

  119. 309
    *****Defection Alert*** says:

    Liberal Democrat MP to announce defection to the Tories.

  120. 312
    A nuns mouse says:

    At 70% failure “Gordon Brown was indistinguishable from Mel Gibson”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/5110402/Airport-face-scanners-cannot-tell-the-difference-between-Osama-bin-Laden-and-Winona-Ryder.html

    Mad Gordon anyone?

    Picture it, Gordon as a leather-clad post-apocalyptic economic meltdown survivor…

  121. 313
    The Hon G Hoon MP says:

    Stone the effing crows. Bloody Darling is muscling into my territory.

    I told the hoon of my little three homes wheeze and lo and behold he has stolen my thunder.

    Bloody thieving hoon.

    Yours

    Geoffrey Hoon MP

  122. 314
    anonybot says:

    Even Darling is in the frame – and Gordon is much too busy to get involved in this nonsense – according to the Saviour himself – as he’s presumambly busy saving the World and filling out his G20 expenses form

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1167864/Second-home-expenses-row-Now-Chancellor-Alistair-Darling-frame.html

  123. 317
    Anonymous says:

    There is an interesting article on sky this morning. People who are loosing their homes are being forced into council accommodation; the same council is then taking their children into care as the accommodation is not deemed suitable for young children. I am sure that these people are concerned about the global economy and terrorism. Politicians and supporters of both parties betray the people of this country, instead of trying to stop the sleaze and help the poorer people in our society they play silly games trying to score party political points.

    When violence does erupt in this country it will come from a totally unexpected direction and will be devastating.

    All it will then take is one gifted orator to stand up and say I will give the people their country back. I will try politicians for their crimes and I will introduce the death penalty for the worst offenders. They will win by a landslide. The country will then be sentenced to years of an extreme right wing dictatorship.

    I once heard a saying which goes:

    We are all travelling in the same boat. We may occasionally rock it or try to push one another out but only a madman would drill holes in the bottom.

    Politicians and their supporters of all parties should consider carefully why they are so busy drilling holes in the boat.

    • 319
      The big D says:

      An accurate if chilling forecast anon. Certainly possible, if as you say, drilling continues with unabated enthusiasm.

  124. 322
    another pissed off voter who will vote no more says:

    These thieving politicians are the same bastards who are dragging us further into the EU without the promised referendum. Their thinking is probably that they can look forward to an equally cushy post in Europe after they have been kicked out of Westminster.

    The EU tried – successfully for a while – to keep the Galvin report secret. But God empowered a whistleblower and this is definitely worth a read, even if you go straigjt to the summary.

    http://wikileaks.org:80/wiki/The_Galvin_Report:_Audit_of_160_EU_Parliament_members,_2008

  125. 326
    Anonymous says:

    On a positive note, no country gets into the shit we’re in without it ends in blood.



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