April 3rd, 2009

Jury Finds Jacqui Guilty

Jury Team, the new internet-based party set-up by Paul Judge to bring independent candidates with clean hands into politics, is making waves by running American-style attack ads in Jacqui Smith’s constituency – they will run online in Redditch local newspapers from tomorrow morning.

The advert is not that aggressive by American standards, by British standards it is, so much so that the newspapers in which it is running took legal advice before accepting the advert.

Iain Dale underestimates the anti-political climate that they are trying to tap into, anyone can stand in the party’s primaries. They are a small party but the internet means they can grow fast.  The Italian mani pulite movement in the early 90s started small and led eventually to the demise of the corrupt First Republic and the collapse of the old party structures.  When you have David Cameron proposing parliamentary reforms which will result in MPs pocketing more taxpayers cash you really wonder if these mavericks could go mainstream.  It happened in Italy…


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  1. 1
    The Grim Reaper says:

    Has she been tried before the Court of Public Opinion (copyright 2009, Harriet Harman) yet?

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      I think she will find the court of public opinion vocal enough when she starts campaining in her very marginal midlands seat in 2010. I bet Razzle field a candidate to!

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        Rembrandt says:

        What a Hoon she is. They both want fucking shot with firing squads for the lies and shit they peddle. Victims of their own creations….

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        Great idea. I saw coverage of the Star deliver a basket of complimentary porn to the door of their nice wooden fence earlier. Hope Jacqboots declares it in her register of gifts.

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        Anonymous says:

        Are Razzle looking for a contribution towards their candidates campaign ? I will pay up if they throw in a couple of wank mags !

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      Rembrandt says:

      No need. She’d get stoned and and have shit flung at her in that court, the Hoon.

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      Anonymous says:

      Before this lot become holier and though and start playing judge and jury on everyone else perhaps worth noting based on ther website that they were operating as a political party before they were registered as one wth the Electoral Commission on the 13 March 2009 – will they hand themselves in?

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    Anonymous says:

    Excellent! We need people who are not loyal to any party and their own pockets. The Party system is undemocratic, even a few party whips have more pull than 60 million of us.
    Hooray for Independents who can freely use their conscience.

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    Anonymous says:

    The one thing that seperates Britain from almost all other Indutsrialised nations is the Leftist BBC. I have never been to a country which is so totally dominated by one broadcaster.

    This wet blanket of Socialist, Middle Class consensus destroys real debate, and corrupts the democratic process.

    In order for parties to become successful they first have to bend a knee to the Oxbridge Marxists of Shepards Bush. Unless they’re a Thatcher.

    I wish these chaps well, but in Britain, our democracy is rather limp..

    Good luck chaps. I’ll lend a hand.

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      Tin Cunliffe says:

      Have you actually watched and understood any forrin tv? (OK, theres the USA and fox news etc.)

      I have, and the one i was watching was nice to the politicians (“oh thank you mr president for letting us come in your lovely garden”), and waaaayyy to the left of the bbc.

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      Twizzle says:

      You hit the nail on the haed Anon.

      The whole media is now corrupted by the financial muscle of the BBC. No other news media organisation now carries any clout and can no longer raise finance via advertising. The BBC can only become more and more the mouthpiece of ZaNu Labour with less and less opposition.

      God save ITN and Sky and all who sail in her.

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        Anonymous says:

        >Have you actually watched and understood any forrin tv?

        Yes, and unlike you, I do not judge the US system on a single interview. I watch Fox News every day on Blinko.com, it is a superb station that makes the BBC and Channel 4 look like tired old Socialist has-beens. I recommend it to all free thinkers. God bless you Mr Murdock.

        I listen to American radio at Townhall.com and also view normal Leftie American channels.

        American media is smarter, better informed, more democratic and trully intellectually challenging. It lacks the biggoted, ignorant Oxbridge snobbery of the BBC/Channel 4.

        I rec

        British media has the vitality and energy of Pravda, 1950. Great for insomnia, painful for free thinkers.

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        Tin Cunliffe says:

        to 126 anonymous.

        So you listen to a bit of american stuff. Does that make you a good judge of “all other Indutsrialised nations”?

        I’m not actually making any judgement about the US, I don’t know much about that- Hows the BBC compare to german, or italian? I do admit I don’t know much about all nations, I just know that the BBC aint half as bad as some national tv.

        I was by the way just giving an example of the most vomit worthy one I’ve seen – I’ve seen plenty. And this isnt the US I’m talking about. Have you seen something that vomit-worthy from the USA?

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    Wim Dit says:

    I noted the rather cheesed-off constituents’ comments on SkyNews: good on the jury team. Whereas the rest of us have to pay for these things out of our own pockets I think it’s rather inequitable for the taxpayer to fund a £1000 fireplace!

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    Tarquin says:

    Good to see coverage on Guido

    But wasn’t the Italian ‘clean hands’ kind of a flash in the pan – what with Berlusconi appearing and Italy still being ridiculously corrupt?

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    Anonymous says:

    This is a spoiler Party set up by the Tories.

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      Woman on a Raft says:

      Why would they set up a party which might spoil their own chances? If you mean ‘it is intended to spoil somebody else’ then who? The Conservatives aren’t bothered by UKIP (although they should be) and it is rapidly becoming apparent that it is Labour who have to worry about BNP moving successfully against them. If you mean ‘it is intended to spoil Labour’s chances’, then why bother? They are already a party which spends most of its energy combatting Labour.

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    Anonymous says:

    Where are they getting their money from to fund this if Paul Judge said he wouldn’t be giving the party any of his money?

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    Anonymous says:

    Once the European Elections are over they will disappear back into the woodwork.

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    Anonymous says:

    Who is funding this campaign?

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      Dolly the sheep says:

      Morning Derek. You always ask that question. “Who’s funding this?”

      Who funds the Labour party Derek? The unions and various private equity and big business types. You can’t get more dodgy than cash for peerages in terms of a funding arrangement.

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      Dolly ate my hamster says:

      Classic NuLab non-rebuttal rebuttal.

      No chance of disputing the facts, so allege funding by a shadowy conspiracy to dispute motives.

      I don’t care who they are funded by if they kick out the lying, cheating, thieving, corrupt muppets we have in govt right now.

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    Anonymous says:

    Paul Judge said he wouldn’t be using his own money.

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    Anonymous says:

    Paul said he wouldn’t be using his own money.

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    Anonymous says:

    Judge said he wouldn’t be using his own money.

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    bofl says:

    that bath plug would be too small to block jacquis cavernous arse..
    i would suggest Nelsons’ column!

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    John Ward says:

    There is an obvious fallacy here, and I am surprised that some of the commenters here are falling into the trap.

    Independence of a political party does not equal freedom from corruption any more than belonging to a party means corruption (or sleaze or anything else negative). Philip Hollobone MP disproves the latter, while I am sure there are ready examples of the former — though I have noi wish to “name and shame” in this thread, as that would not be helpful.

    Human beings are human beings, and that is the underlying cause of the malaises that afflict ours or any other political system. Yes, there are rules that can make corruption and sleaze easier or more difficult, and they need to be sorted out anyway; but beyond the details of that is the underlying cause of corruption, which is generally to do with individuals rather than parties.

    Okay, one has to make an exception for Labour, who appear to have institutionalised this sort of thing, while trying (as has been reported on the ‘blogs) to entrap Conservatives, for purely party political ends. Now there is a case of negative party politics, though it shouldn’t be generalised — that is another trap for the easily-misled.

    Independent elected members have their uses, but between them they can rarely come to a consensus that allows decisions to be taken and a nation taken forward. It isn’t a useful way to go as an overall policy — merely a side issue that reminds us all of what we should be doing.

    We have a country to run, and that takes consensus and united decision-making. Like it or not, that is the bottom-line reality of any system that involves voting rather than dictatorship.

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      Rembrandt says:

      Agreed – but ZaNuLabour has forgotten how to run a country and the mechanics therein.

      They’re too busy trying to divert attention from their fudgepacking front-bench of lying, thieving Hoons instead of packing these fuckers off to the Falklands after they’ve put their foot in it. Jacque-Boot Smith? Please. Someone find her a red hot poker to deep-throat – what a waste of airtime and oxygen that shower is. You just know she’s at it with the rest of them.

      No doubt there’s Tories mixed into that game but Gorgon Browne’s pulling the shields up around his mob anytime the spotlight falls – then he starts tipping gold bars out of his pockets running down the street to pay off Nick Robinson (stooge) for another moderate take on his pathetic leadership of complete and utter insanity – like surname, like tongue after today performance in front of Jesus Obama and the other G20 players – shambolic.

      Yes, we have a country to run – but the Huntry isn’t being run by people that are listening anymore….

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      bofl says:

      why apologise for them?

      ffs we have 65 million people in this country-many working their nuts off for f/a
      and these hoons come along and shit in our faces!

      ever heard of integrity?

      they are a disgrace.

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      pp says:

      I don’t want to sound like a complete dork, but probably will…

      Most people know f-all about the people they are voting for – the parties sorted out all that stuff (usually to their own benefit) and just needs you to vote for the party.

      Independents are not offering a party ticket, they are offering themselves (for better or worse).

      Search here (and conservative home, and telegraph blogs etc) for ‘pp’ search the bbc blogs for ‘the-real-truth’ etc — thats stuff I have written over months/years, if you like it vote for me – its the real deal. If you don’t like what I have written then tell your master ‘dolly’ that he is outnumbered.

      text pauper01 to 86837 !

      (ps pauper is the first three letters for my christian and surname – not derived from my financial standing!).

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      We don’t need rulers, we need administrators.

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      Anonymous says:

      True, we’re all fallible.

      But I guess the difference is that if parties don’t take action against miscreants then there is no other recourse. Parties protect their own, and have some sort of agreement not to trumpet the other’s troughing so that their own thievary is not scrutinised too much.

      An independent would certainly be freer to point the finger, and indeed to have the finger pointed back at them. I reckon this is more likely to keep them in check

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      W.W. says:

      I agree to an extent, due to the failings in human nature, some form of abuse and corruption will always take place.

      However it is the extent of it at the moment, the shamelessness of it, and the pettyness, of that fat ugly bitch claiming 88p for a fucking plug.

      The cherry on the cake is over the last eleven years, we have had to put up with their pious lecturing, and attitude. Yet it turns out they are the most corrupt bunch of incompetents we have ever had the missfortune to ‘rule’ over us.

      Personally, I will vote for absolutely anybody to get these fuckwitts out of power, Monster Raving Loony, UKIP, I would even go so far as voting for the fucking Liberals if required.

      Whether it be independant, or a party based system, or even a horse based system, they couldn’t be worse than the bunch of utter Hunts we have in power at the moment, ‘led’ by a delusional madman.

      W.W.

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    • 112
      Anonymous says:

      The facts are that an unelected dictatorship has landed us in the bloody awful mess we are in, the people´s representatives had little influence on the matters, or outcome.

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    Porco Madonna!

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    pp says:

    May I be the first person to ask all of guidos supporters and detractors to text their support for me, and get me on the euro ballot paper.

    Just text ‘pauper01′ to 86837

    You can read the guff at:

    http://www.juryteam.org/candidate-profile.php?id=10146

    But anyone paying attention will have seen my postings here (ok I was anon till a few months back – but even my anon stuff here is really cool – honest), conservative home, nick robinsons blog, daniel hannans blog, labour list and prescotts blog and elsewhere and already have a pretty good idea of what I am about, so you can save time and just sent the text RIGHT NOW!

    (small print)
    texts cost 25p plus you standard network charges
    (/small print)

    ps. Cheers guido, I’ll leave the envelope where we agreed.
    pps. Just kidding – I won’t be paying after all.
    ppps. See I even have a sense of humour – what more can you ask of an MEP?
    pppps. Really – text ‘pauper01′ to ‘86837’ – now!

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    So17 says:

    What is the obsession with Labour MPs and Wanking?
    Diana Abbot said ‘Wank’ no less than three times tonight and ‘Crack’ was mentioned as well.
    Please Ms Abbot we expect more from you wot with you being the font of all fucking wisdom and that.
    By the way Dawn Porter would get my vote as an Independant.
    ‘shuffle,shuffle,shuffle’

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      Aethelred says:

      As tax-payers, we are all victims of passive wanking thanks to Jacqui Smith’s onanistic spouse.

      Dawn Porter at least has a sense of humour.

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        down like the bismarck says:

        Ha ha, passive wanking, a.k.a. “second-hand wanking”. Experts suggest that it’s effects are even more dangerous than if one were to wank onself; especially indoors, or in a crowded public place.

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      pp says:

      BBC half way out the closet – women can mention men wanking, but none of the men dare mention the same of the women…

      What happened to equality?

      On the equality note, I saw Ms Obama at a london school today, funny there were no white skinned children in sight ! Must be the same school they use for all the government ministers photo shoots.

      But would a white first lady have been sent to that particular school? If not, then ‘colour blindness’ is clearly not on this governments agenda…

      For your info, and to preempt labourlost accusations of racism, personally I see skin colour in the same way as eye or hair colour – just because someone has blue eyes and blonds hair it doesn’t make them a nazi, equally I don’t want suicide bombers near me regardless of their race, creed or colour.

      Get me on the EU ballot paper – text pauper01 to 86837 – now, before you forget!

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        Dick the Prick says:

        Abbot turned into Claire Short last night on porn – now those 2 create an extremely ‘specialist’ market.

        Can you puke your way to orgasm?

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        Tranny by gaslight says:

        PP –

        I’m just about to do it.

        I will add, though, that I’ll vote for anyone who looks like they cut their own hair.

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      Kavanah QC says:

      Are we perhaps guilty of “art and part” wanking by funding this behaviour ?

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    caesars wife says:

    most people have welcomed g20 , in as much as big meetings go i can see a motivation to work together , however gordon brown says it will not cure the problem and may take time to work .

    i contrast this as , in commons ecnomic debate on tues , it was not denied that it would take at least 10 years before the toxic banks are dealt with and can be sold off for a some return , as yet the total liabilities are not confrmed but it is more than GDP if you include PFI .

    so labour are going to borrow (its accpeted you have to borrow somthing in recession) , but hey are borrowing huge ammounts the as yet unconfirmed figure of 125 million this year .

    i dont mind alisatir keeping us waiting until aprill 22nd , but we have to have accurate figures , business needs good information, somthing notably absent over the last 8 months .

    fraser nelson did a good article on what the sums involve mean in real life spending .

    one figure i saw was 40k for every man woman and child in the uk is the ammount of debt that labour have bequethed in there big bank lite touch ponzi scheme , which will be mostly in taxation , and it looks like goods and services .

    even if you spread it over 10 years that 4k in extra taxation required .

    given gordon is crippling the SMEs due to credit not reaching them , 50% of the wealth creation is in jeopardy .

    more can be said when the books get revealed (hopefully proper and clean and with no last page gimmicks or fiddles)

    a new world order is not a uk debt reduction strategey , and we need to reduce debt in order to make the most of the tight global trading conditions which look like being with us for some time .

    sterling has devalued by 30% , so inflation will be built into imports .

    heres the rub if inflation rips due to importing then , interest rates will go up , people will have less to spend and gordon will achieved full nutter status .

    his massive fiscal stimulus has not had the effect , because he the drain is too large to have held it , he should put vat back up immediately .

    so where has the money gone and where is the borrowing going , to put it mildly if hes wasted his best and most expensive attacks , he will not have staved off a catastrophe for the private sector and then the public sector monster will not have sustanenece post an ailing private sector , why did he not prioritise the private sector earlier , where is plan b if ihis risk analysis of his straegy failed ???

    labour are the do somthing party , done somthing wrong !!

    it is his lack of honest communication with the public that is causing this lack of confidence and it wont return , until he comes clean or goes and calls a general election .

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      view from the bunker next door says:

      After 10 Budgets with Gordon at the helm and one where he pulled the strings and another on 22 April where he’ll be asking Darling to fudge some sort of illusion that it will be a good budget for the British Taxpayer- my advice on the G20 is wait until you read the “small print” – the G20 fudge on fiscal stimulus was classic Brown Spin & Fudge/Compromise – big on “sound bites” – little in the way of substance for the UK. It’s unlikely to do very much for the collosal public debt here in the UK either and a lot of the spending announcements are re-cycled already announced initiatives – another Labour/Brown classic strategy to confuse the electors although this time he’s “trying it on” on a “global” scale as befits his so called “new global deal”.

      Despite the “Noble Lord Mandelson’s” comments – an application to the IMF looks still very much on the cards for the UK in the next 6 months and Brown’s Fanzines would do well to hold off on the “historic agreement” tag a while longer

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      Frank says:

      G20 is no more than a bunch of big spenders asking a bunch of big savers to shove a bit more money their way.

      In a touch of bravado the spenders boast success and claim to have not only come away with five trillion they also boast about havng transformed a future visit to the IMF into a respectable event.

      Fucking interesting that the savers did not sign any commitments.

      Hardly worth a victory roll

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      Twizzle says:

      ‘…his massive fiscal stimulus has not had the effect… ,’

      What ‘massive fiscal stimulus’? Have you lost the plot?

      The only money used by the government for the help of the people was 2.5% off VAT. Fucking whoopee! The rest has gone in ‘rescuing the banks’ (money down the drain ‘cos the losses are exponential) and filling in the gap between collapsing tax receipts and massively inflated social costs, unemployment benefits, etc.

      What massive fiscal fucking stimulus? Tell me more.

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        caesars wife says:

        er borrowings for loan guarentee and housing support scheme neither of which on tuesaday had given even £1 to any cause.

        ie borrowings to improve peoples budgets to faciltate spending.

        hence mervs “caution ” on another fiscal stimulus

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      • 105
        Ted Bundy says:

        Even the temporary 2.5% VAT reduction was a con as Brown paid for this with a permanent hike in fuel duty rates.

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    Anonymous says:

    saw this on a scottish site http://www.johnwallace.me.uk

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      Rob says:

      Excellent video.The government is effectively a dictatorship supported by selected apparatchiks totally without expertise in the real world who have risen in status only by not rocking the boat and their reward is “all you can grab theres plenty more where that came from”

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      • 37

        While I do agree with what you say – the problem that is in status is that this problem is mainly down to, effectively, the two party system that the UK has now.

        Christ knows that there are many parties and roving loons who will put themselves up to be elected, yet there is still the parliamentary system. What that means, as all know, is that – at some point – someone has to form a government.

        The party system isn’t wrong in my eyes – what is wrong is the abjuration of power to the president of the UK; the PM.

        I have said it on a few ‘Labour’ MPs blogs that they are spineless because they do not take into account that people – the people who elected them expect them to do a job – and if that means a frigging revolt then they should. Needless to say that many of those comments are still awaiting moderation.

        The whip system has to be abolished in parliament – that, I may add, is only the beginning.

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    general sherman says:

    These kind of ads work as they put a simple message across to simple fucking people, such as Labour voters. As a breed they are hard wired into whining it is not fair, someone else has more than me boo hoo, so seeing their own ‘colleauges’ stuffing their houses with ‘luxury’ items and then parking their fat arses on the sofa for a quick wank billed to the ‘hard working famalies etc etc” that Labour “care for” will get the message across.

    Wonder why ace pr man Dave ‘Boy Green’ Cameron’s party are not using them?

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    Voice of the alarmed people says:

    Could we have a vote on the EU constitution too? Why stop there – let’s have a series of Referendums….

    1. Is Gordon gay?
    2. Should Mandelson have a say in anything as he is unelected
    3. MP and Cabinet salary cuts and loss of freebies
    4. Public humiliation for fraud in either House.
    5. Beer and petrol price hikes
    6. ….

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      Hamish Macbeth says:

      Well – we can vote on crap like Big Brother on the television.
      There are loads of internet polls….

      How about a “taxpayers” poll – every taxpayer gets a say at influence and directing Government Policy..

      The party that introduces this will stay in power for ever..

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    Call me Infidel says:

    You make an excellent point. A simple message repeated often is what is required. Though the tories could hardly do better than to re-run the “Labour isn’t working” adverts. Simple and accurate. The numerous open goal opportunities provided by Labour have not really been exploited.

    I think it will be interesting to see how each party grasps the potential of new media to run adverts like the above. If labourlost and Gofourth are anything to go by Labour have lost before they have even started.

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      general sherman says:

      Quite so. A nice image also helps and as a pr man I would suggest a tasteful shot of a chap, trousers around ankles, right hand obscured, but clearly up to something not involving reaching for a pint of beer, a nice antique fireplace burning away in the background – the sort of £1.000 odd job that graces La Jaquis house, taking his leisure in front of a modest 46″ plasma TV.

      banner headline New Labour Spunking Your Money Away.

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    Anonymous says:

    GMTV reporting the G20 a great success and markets booming on the back off the extra I trillion stimulus. (Obviously did not look at Frazer Nelsons page)
    Looks like McTwats smoke and mirrors are working. Bear in mind that GMTV is where the majority of paople get their news and they believe it all as it is spoon fed to them just like the BBC.

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      Grand Larceny says:

      ‘markets booming on the back off the extra I trillion stimulus. (Obviously did not look at Frazer Nelsons page)’

      nope, nothing to do with it:

      ‘Banks told they can ignore the market. The market rejoices.’

      http://curiouscapitalist.blogs.time.com/2009/04/02/banks-told-they-can-ignore-the-market-the-market-rejoices-huh/

      US authorities are letting US banks value their ‘assets’ against ‘the model’ rather than the market price – i.e. zero. It’s a con. That’s why markets shot up. Like saying your unsellable, poxy slum house is worth one million, against which you can leverage more and more credit. Fraser Nelson’s a twerp/banker shill for not pointing out the bleeding obvious.

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    The Beast of clerkenwell says:

    A bath plug?
    Are we sure that Mr Timney hadnt claimed for a Butt plug to enjoy whilst watching Raw Meat 3 ?

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    • 55
      jammy dogger says:

      How can we be sure he didn’t charge the taxpayer for a burly well-equipped male escort and a few lines of coke?

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      • 62
        The Beast of clerkenwell says:

        Mr Dodger we cant
        Its hardly surprising that he has turned into a screaming queen having been married to that sack of potatoes for so long.
        I bet her minge stinks.

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    NuLab_Pride says:

    O/T perhaps, but while Gordon and has been playing ‘chancellor of the world’, and Jacqui’s husband has been watching ‘Raw Meat 3′, it’s been business as usual at home for NuLabour and its client quangocracy, namely massive incompetence and pissing our money away big time.

    Also unnoticed, it was confirmed this week that Britain’s biggest quango, the Learning and Skills Council, has left colleges up and down the country facing financial ruin, and some premises half built, by blowing the funding set aside for the government’s for 2.3 billion pound THREE year college rebuilding programme in NINE months.

    Apparently these clowns simply forgot to keep a list of how much they were spending.

    Naturally, the head honcho has already left was a large payoff.

    Nu Labour = financial incompetence.

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/b3e66228-1f1d-11de-a748-00144feabdc0.html

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/5089709/College-building-blunders-were-predictable-and-avoidable-finds-inquiry.html

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2009/apr/01/college-building-management-failure

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/7976621.stm

    http://www.dius.gov.uk/news_and_speeches/announcements/~/media/pubs/L/LSC_Capital_Review_acc

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    Anonymous says:

    Guardian reporting Naomi campbell was at No 10 last night WTF????

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    […] adverts being placed in her constituency ….. see Jury Finds Jacqui Guilty – Guy Fawkes’ blog […]

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  29. 53

    Not often the dull insurance world of the Tuscan overlaps with the thrilling rollercoaster of Guido’s politics, but re your mani puliti/tangentopolis link and the de-dunging of the Augean stables of politics here 10-15 years ago, its worth repeating how the Italians managed to achieve the seemingly impossible and make things pretty clean around these parts.

    The most effective measure by a Hoonry mile (IMHO) they introduced was the change in the Italian civil code, which effectively makes councillors and other elected politicians as personally (i.e. their own money, not reimbursible by the council/employer entity), accountable to the populace as company directors are to their shareholders and customers. Thus it is possible to personally sue a politician here for malfeasance/wrongful acts, much in the same way a private company director can be pursued. Live example: Milan City Council, which underwent a pretty wholesale change of mayor/officials a couple of years back. The first thing the new mayor did was to ship all his mates in to positions of authority and power, in the “traditional” way. However, this time the opposition parties not only noticed this and their apparently excessive remuneration but then proceeded to sue the mayor and his fellow councillors. At one point the damages claimed against the council officials personally totalled in excess of € 6million, but this was ultimately settled at around € 300,000.

    Italian politicians’ personal assets are directly accessible, from houses, boats and bank accounts to (if I recall) pension arrangements.

    Pensions – now there’s a thought.

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      The Beast of clerkenwell says:

      Explain Berloscconi then
      BTW I like the old rascal

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        Is it because Berloscconi annoys the shite out of Al-BBC?

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      • 107

        Easily, Beast – this precisely explains why he put up such a fight; I reckon it wasn’t his reputation (such as it is) that he was worried about, it was the potential financial penalties.

        Anyway, hard to imagine Silvio calling his plumber and saying “this is Silvio Berlusconi, MP” as Gordon did to his tradesman, you tell us.

        Anti – what do you think?

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  30. 56
    Jonah's Doom says:

    Barack Obama has hailed the G20 summit as a historic turning point in the pursuit of world economic recovery.

    Leaders pledged new spending and tougher financial regulations, in what the US leader called an unprecedented set of actions to ease the crisis.

    OR

    Royal Bank of Scotland expects to shed more jobs worldwide, the bank has said.

    RBS has already announced that about 2,700 posts will go but “this will not be the end of the story”, according to chairman Sir Philip Hampton.

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  31. 57
    art1000 says:

    There are a few things coming together that make a perfect storm for the political establishment – the internet, free-speech blogging, corrupt and self-serving ‘politicians’, the economic disaster and massive pent up public discontent and anger.

    At the centre of the of the forces trying to counteract this and keep the lid on the things is the taxpayer funded bbc and the MSM. Feel good reality show and celeb distractions pay their part too. Anything to keep the public’s mind off the enormity of the disaster that awaits us.

    In normal circumstances if a company was failing the shareholders could force an AGM and the sacking of the board. A fair and free election could have cleared the air and help dissipate some of the tension but unfortunately as this current corrupt shower are determined to hang on as long as possible and in doing so the borrow more to postpone the day of reckoning it looks like we are totally powerless to stop the rot in the short term.

    Even when we get an election, our best hope, after Glenrothes will anybody believe the result? FInally, if NuLab win again then I think 1984 will have arrived.

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    • 91
      Anonymous says:

      NuLies should be forced back into office to reap the full financial tsunami they have fuelled. Drown ‘em so deep they will never again emerge in any political shape or form.

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  32. 60
    Anonymous says:

    It there a candidate in Watford to stand against our money grabbing MP. This party is a fantastic Idea and should get wide spread support. At last a party worth bothering to vote for.

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    • 65
      City of Vice says:

      Keep you eye on the prize, folks, that is, removing the corrupt Labour Party from government. Fielding too many anti Labour candidates could split the anti Labour vote in some constituencies and let them back in by default.

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  33. 63
    Flash (in the pan) Gordon says:

    BBC: Bouyant markets thrill to Browns $1tn stimulus?

    They’re tanking again now. Looks like their exitement was about the swap-shit-for-gold deal announced by the US authorities.

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  34. 66
    Anonymous says:

    Has something happened to Mike Smithson’s site?
    Political Betting has vanished.

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  35. 68
    The Beast of clerkenwell says:

    I wonder if Mr Timney subscribes to that old saying
    “You dont look at the mantlepiece when stocking the taxpayer funded fire”
    To explain fucking that dog Jaqui Sith.
    If he does subscribe to it I bet the hoon puts it on expenses

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    • 69
      Anonymous says:

      Is there anybody here, deep in the deepest part of their hearts, who doesn’t have an itsy-bitsy, merest speck of a tiniest atom of sympathy for Mr Jacquiboots?

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    • 88
      Jaaathro says:

      Baaa, Mas’r Beast. If you’m meets a chap with a couple of ferrets down ‘is trousers, chances be he be up from the HOON-TREE! But if you’m meets some leering degenerate naked, from the waist down and brandishing a couple of blameless ferrets, chances be you’m ended up in the fleshpots of the metropolis. In fact, ‘im probably be one of ‘em media toypes what runs some fancy NEW LABOUR BLAWG. But he’m better moind ‘ow ‘e go – cos once a ferret gets ‘is faaangs into ‘is knawb, he’m don’t let go, not ever, no matter ‘ow much Dolly shakes it all about!

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    • 93
      Dick Tingly, Redditch says:

      I haven’t fucked the fat old bag for years.

      I prefer Mrs Palm and her five lovely daughters.

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      • 118
        THE BEAST OF CLERKENWELL says:

        Mr Jaaathro
        The only time that Beasty mixes with Media Hoons is to extract cash from them.
        I then spunk it away on watches

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  36. 73
    Lord Robertson of Noblane says:

    Fucking London wank protest. NATO 300 arrests, water cannon, rubber bullets. You effeminate fuckers can’t even kick-off properly anymore. Fucking fairies.

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  37. 74
    Anonymous says:

    Funding? Judge has a shady past at best.

    http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_19950125/ai_n9629984/

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    • 92
      Who funds Derek Draper? says:

      Hi Derek! You got both your classic points in there. Alleging dodgy funding and making unspecific borderline libelous insinuations about someones motives or background.

      What about *your* shady past Derek? What about the alliance of private equity barons and union money that funds Labour? What about the union money that funds your site? What about Lord “Cashpoint” Levy?

      When political funding is truly reformed and unions can no longer force their members to subsidise the labour party the political landscape will truly change.

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      • 108
        Anonymous says:

        Nobody ‘funds’ Deggsy, that’s his problem.

        When’s the vanity project gonna be wound up, Dolly?
        You made too many promises – non of ‘em deliverable.
        Is Mandy or Campbell complaining about the waste yet?

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      • 120
        THE BEAST OF CLERKENWELL says:

        Kate Garraway funds Dolly.
        He isnt a quaklified psyhcorapist and is allegedly up to his wobbling arse in debt

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  38. 76
    Lord Nicolas Robinson of NuLabford in the County of Arselickshire says:

    What did you all think of my totally non-partisan reporting of the G20…good eh?

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    • 81
      Anonymous says:

      Now I know why Nick Robinson is called Toenails, even by his sycophantic associates at the Brown Broadcasting Corporation.

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  39. 78
    Anonymous says:

    Meanwhile, back in the real world away from Brown’s G20 spin, house prices are still falling fast:

    http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/index.php?showtopic=110236

    I bet this news won’t be given the prominence on the BBC news that yesterdays manipulated Nationwide figures got.

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  40. 79
    Gavin Esler says:

    Boy, did I have Mandy on the ropes last night! Great interviewing technique, don’t you think.

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    • 82
      Anonymous says:

      Esler, didn’t take his tongue out of Mandelsons arse long enough to ask him any questions.

      Yet again, a new low for the BBC.

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    • 85
      Anonymous says:

      Yeah!
      You went down on him big time!
      Did he leave you his number or say he’d call?

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  41. 80

    I know it’s not the done thing to be serious here, but honestly, Guido, do you really think that Mani Pulite, for all the noble aspirations and in some cases genuine personal bravery involved, actually cleaned up Italian politics either very thoroughly or for very long?

    What it did, surely, was to boost foreign perceptions of Italian politics in the short term anyway, redistributing centre-right votes in some very odd directions indeed, and to pave the way for Silvio Berlusconi – and while I suppose we’d agree that he’s preferable to most of his left-wing opposition, I hardly think he constitutes a shining example of ethical probity to which our own politicians ought to aspire.

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  42. 84
    Anonymous says:

    Mariella Frostrup is a flighty piece. She ended her crush on Gordon Brown for one on his fat, “wife” Sarah. Now she’s dumped both of them to suck up to Michelle Obama. Doesn’t cringeworthy Mariella realise that Michelle doesn’t like whitey?

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  43. 89
    Anonymous says:

    “Gordon Brown flew to Camp David”…

    And they dare to say the Age of Romance is dead

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  44. 97
    Wossat? says:

    Best ad I’ve seen in a long time. How about one for Brown or would the epic length be a budget buster?

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    • 102
      Anonymous says:

      I don’t know.
      It seems to lack that ‘je ne sais quoi’…

      Ah.
      It’s the absence of nooses dangling suggestively from the top of the frame.
      A gif of a noose dropping out of frame, to be replaced by a taut rope would make all the difference.

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  45. 100

    Am I missing something? Jaqui Smith is claiming UNTAXED allowances to feather her own nest in her ‘second’home’ whilst claiming big fees for lodging with her sister. Not seen any mention publically.
    Man at home wallowing in luxury of 40k apron string money, and mortgage being paid by us.
    All these second homes are bought tax free, and when the market rises, so will the windfall of these spongers. Shame on the lot, especially Jaqui Smith and her bath plug.

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  46. 113
    Henry Percy says:

    Er – and the mid 1990s then saw the rise of the fabulously non corrupt Berlusconi. Lucky Italians.

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  47. 115
    jacqui fatarse says:

    I hear Comrade Diane Abbot apparently thinks women don’t wank and don’t like porn. Sad stupid cow. Suppose that’s what comes of being such a fucking ugly bitch. Would it help her if I lent her some porn?

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  48. 116
    Chris A says:

    It is a tame advert. I would have thought that the lawyers were more worried at a writ from Mastercard than anything else though.

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  49. 117
    THE BEAST OF CLERKENWELL says:

    Diane
    Most women wank, it comes from hanging about with red blooded men such as Miguel (It a plastic cottage)Portaloo

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  50. 121
    Roger Clague says:

    Its all good fun slagging off Jackboot Jacqui but the country is full of women like her, trumped up, and ruining my life.

    Actually hubby Richard gets a good deal, a cushy job and a big house mainly to himself and the kids. Plus the odd earbashing from her in Parliament.

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  51. 124
    FrankFisher says:

    I’m suspcious of that Jury Team thing – not “anyone” can stand Guido, only anyone prepared to sign up to their NuLab-lite terms and conditions.

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  52. 125
    crackers says:

    Fancy a Jac off. Our Jacqui on front cover of Speccie in the classic Christine Keeler chair pose.

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  53. 127
    Gee/Obama the UK needs change too says:

    I am standing for the South East:

    Text
    gaemar01
    to
    86837

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  54. 129
    Daniel1979 says:

    I wanted to know more about Jury Team Candidates so I set out some questions on my blog, and I have had 13 responses from across the UK from people running in the Jury Team Primary. If you are interested in how they view the EU and how they will vote pop over and have a look at their responses. http://daniel1979blog.blogspot.com/

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  55. 131
    Anonymous says:

    This organisation is just a Tory front. Why can’t they be honest about it?

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    Duncan says:

    I’m not an expert on libel law by any means, but I’m actually quite surprised the newspapers did run it. The troublesome word is ‘abuse’ which is potentially libelous if it is taken to imply breaking the rules and no rule-breaking occured. That is, breaking the letter of the law; we all know they certainly broke the spirit of the law. I suspect the reason it gets though is that it’s merely implied who the targets are and not stated. If it actually used the name ‘Jacqui Smith’ it would probably be libelous under UK law.

    I take it Guido is thinking the Private Eye’s longstanding campaign to reform UK libel laws is a good wheeze? (I certainly do!)

    @Tayto – I certainly think a block of flats for MPs might be a better solution. Do they really need second /homes/. Why would their London accomodation need to be more extensive than a standard hotel room? The tricky cases are those who think given the amount of time they’ll have to spend in London it makes sense to relocate their families. I suspect in those cases, the answer might just have to be one of tough love and say it’s a de facto condition of representing a constituency that your own family lives there.

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  58. 134

    Jacqui Smith surely now ought to resign. Even minor slip ups at the home office are now being linked with the original porn on expenses story, the most recent being the revelation that a Home Office website contained a link to a Japanese Porn site.

    It has got so bad that the home secretary has now earnt the nickname “Buk-acqui Smith” on several websites, a name that is derived from a particular form of Japanese Pornography called Bukkake. How long can Ms Smith continue with egg on her face?

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  59. 135

    Dear Guido,

    I have just reported a crime to New Scotland Yard with a request that they investigate. The offences alleged concern the theft of £10, false accounting and obtaining a pecuniary advantage by deception contrary to ss. 1, 15 and 16 Theft Act, 1968, and conspiracy. The suspects are one Jacqui Smith M P and Richard Timney….I probably do not have to add any more.

    Suffice it to say I expect one or more of the following outcomes:

    !. No further action;

    2. Not in the public interest to waste police time on £10;

    3. Insufficient evidence;

    4. Full investigation of my tax position and private life

    But who cares any more in this banana republic? Great Britain we may at one time have been, but now under new Labour (aka Hard Labour) we are more like Little Britain.

    I shall let you know if I hear anything from Yates of The Yard, but don’t hold your breath.

    David Crawford
    Llandudno

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  60. 136
    Andromeda says:

    Hello Guido and all. London Jury Team MEP candidate here.

    Probably the only candidate with an established history of producing political content.

    Vote for me because you know I will be at the very least entertaining. My policies are memorable precisely because it takes no account of “polite society”.

    Click on my name to see my Jury Team profile.

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  61. 137
    Andromeda says:

    More self-promotion here by this Jury Team London MEP candidate, I’m afraid. You may even wish to review http://www.1party4all.co.uk – which I am responsible for. It basically promotes direct democracy and demonstrates how it could work in a virtual one-party state.

    Could you live in such a state, Guido?

    The Party Hostess looks forward to welcoming you.

    You may even wish to review it.

    http://www.1party4all.co.uk

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