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Lord Lamont told ITV News…
“I think the PM is just human and Ed Balls is a pretty irritating person”
Amongst our weaponry are such diverse elements as fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency
Financial misconduct = Conservatives
Financial misconduct, war criminals, liars, thieves, incompetence, sense of entitlement, international laughing stock, whore users, porn viewers on the taxpayer, traitors = LABOUR
My MP Jacqui Smith claimed £9,652 for pornographic films, £12,105 for doner kebabs, and £14.95 for a king-size, jack-hammer, strapon dildo.
What’s wrong with that? She’s only claiming what she’s entitled to.
Slow off the mark today Inqi. Where are your chums Labour Pride, Ambrose Sulk etc? Liquid lunch give you some courage to start posting today eh?
Porn on expenses = New Labour
Ta taa!
**CLAPS **
What about the married couple Kirkbride (of Stephen Milligan fame) and Andrew MacKay, there a bit steep.
Tra laa!
The Inquisition was late into work today because his mum forgot to change the time on his alarm clock.
er tra Laa?
What about that very old spread betting man thing?
Stuart Wheeler dealer?
He now wants the United Kingdom nincumpoop party (YounincumpoopP).
Sauron’s Guidorc very quiet.
Why, no biscuits if he posts anything on it?
Here’s to independent Librarianism!
Tra laa!
My MP has a constituency address within a few minutes walk of the local station and the train gets to London in 35 minutes. From there a tube train will take another 20 minutes. Many local residents commute daily and a season ticket would cost about £3,500. How come he claims over £16k for staying away from home?
Financial Misconduct = Labour/Conservative/Lib Dem/ Flat Earth party (delete where applicable)
Youre lucky.
My MP, Norman ‘whiter than white, except when I’m caught out by the Parliamentary Standards Commitee fiddling my expenses‘ Baker lives 5 minutes walk from the station in Lewes, a commuter town in East Sussex.
Most local commuters would be pleased to have Norman’s commute, with a 55 minute train journey to Victoria [next tube stop to Westminster] and trains to and from London Victoria every half hour till midnight
Yet he still manages to claim £21,862 for staying away from his main home
Mr Stimulus
Spot on – I was very surprised to see his chart topping performance.
What a greedy and pretentious snought.
I see you drew the 3 to 11 shift today flipping burgers.
Fuck off
Your comment about Camerons son is not and never will be forgotten or forgiven. Don’t stand near any lamposts. Dogs pee against them
Have you stopped battering your wife yet?
Financial misconduct = Conservatives
Tossing and putting in the expenses = Labour
OT: 5 more MP’s may ‘know’ Nigel Griffiths brunette friend…
http://www.juryteam.org/blog/?p=215#comments
Or how much your MP has legitimately claimed in support of his or her parliamentary duties…
yeah, thats right !!
that 23,083 quid……recurs a lot….
I noticed that too
Here’s mine – Mr Charles Hendry
Cost of staying away from main home = £23,083.
It costs £104 a week to travel to London Victoria from this constituency by train.
I do it every day – I can leave at 0725 and get to Westminster tube by 0920 easily. Or be there by 0840 if I catch leave at 0705.
WTF – £23k for £5000 of actual outlay????
Can I be an MP please?
143 counts of 23,083 – about 22% of all claims.
You’re on the money there.
I can explain everything.
Anybody find it amusing or otherwise that the President of Sinn Féin, Gerry Adams MP, who does not on a point of political principle sit in the House of Commons claims expenses for the cost of being away from home and actually costs more in expenses than most other MPs who actually take up their seats? Just from a quick scan, you see.
You can thank Gorbals for that. Betty always said ‘no show, no money’.
Does Gorbals’ bitch still go shopping in Knightsbridge at our expense? More to teh point does fat bastard Gorbals eat it when she gets back?
Nor really, he and his IRA pals claimed social security benefits from the UK taxpayer for over three decades, while he managed to become part owner of the very posh Culloden Hotel on the Belfast Lough shore….
We will never negotiate with terorrists…
Unless they blow up the City and Canary Wharf that is!
After which the US realise the UK has a problem with representative democracy in Ireland and so tell us to get on with it.
Ol’ Martin McGuinness is up to the same tricks as well, I see! I wonder how much he also claims via Stormont…
Snelgrove(Lab, Swindon South, mp MP) spent 20k on ‘away from home’ expenses. Swindon is 1hr and six minutes from Paddington.
Hoon.
by my reckoning, parliament sits for (at most) 200 days a year.
That’s £100 a night if she spent EVERY night in London.
What a complete crock of shit.
Paul Clark (Gillingham, Kent) £22,204.
Gillingham is a 50 minute train journey to/from Victoria Station on a frequent service commuter route.
is there something magical about £23083 – so many m.p.’s seem to claim exactly that figure as the ‘cost’ of staying away from the main home (or am i being unfair to hard working and dedicated public servants?)
I imagine it’s the max ‘allowable’ for that category.
143 MPs have – see post above.
And there are a load just under the radar hoping not to get picked up – wankers.
£23083. When I was young and doing expense claims for tax returns I was always told to round up unless it came to a suspiciously round number and never to use a number that divided by 52. Obviously our elected representatives follow the same logic.
They just go on to forge the supporting invoices.
So that’s it then! Knock off a fiver so it doesn’t look like £444 a week
Pehaps somone could explain to me why the Sinn Fein MP’s are even allowed 1p in expenses when they haven’t even taken their seats in the House? Forget no taxation without representation – what about no expenses until you actually properly represent your constituents…..
Gerry Adam’s takes £21,131 for staying away from home expenses, but doesn’t travel to Westminster to take his seat in the House…?!?
What the fuck?!
In fact he also claims a further triple shed load of cash for being an NI Assembly member…….
And the outright winner of the most expensive office, at £105000, is Ms Clare Short.
Not far away, at Bolsover, the pretend Beast comes in at a modest £45k.
Uber trougher, Anne Keen goes on the podium at £104k. No economies of scale there with her pigging hubby, to no one’s surprise.
The thieving bitch, Anne Keen, half-inched that spare ‘E’ and stuck it on the end of her name. Even the alphabet isn’t safe from these looting criminals. Give it back, Ann.
Clare needs it to pay her booze bills
re. the Short.
Mite extravagant.
Can’t fault a person who tees up the occasional scotch, but is she laying down a cellar?
The Keens really are the worst. The most greedy disgusting of all MPs. Calling them greedy pigs really does pigs an injustice.
They are not the only one’s. There is a whole raft of piggies in that list that are firmly in the trough with four trotters and a very enlarged snout. A complete fucking disgrace the whole lot of them.
Even worse than the Robinsons of the DUP … and their family firm?
Went to the last page. For cost of second home, six of the lying bastards claimed exactly, and I mean EXACTLY, the same amount – £23,083.
Now I used to be a bookmaker in a past life and have some understanding of odds. And, believe me, the odds of six out of WHOLE batch of 646 having exactly the same second home costs is the same as Brown winning the next election on a free vote. The odds of SIX from the last page having EXACTLY the same costs is astronomic.
Lying, cheating bastards sums it up.
Overall, 143 of them have claimed 23,083 – funny that…
Are you sure it’s only 6 – felt like more – anyone know an easy way to get this into Excel so we can analyse it?
I can’t get it to format properly.
Try this
http://ge2009.co.uk/HoCExpenses0708.xls
What odds on 143 out of 646 picking £23, 083 ?
A Euro Lottery win is more likely me thinks.
My MP is Jeremy Corbyn. He’s about the cheapest of the lot.
This leaves me with a huge dilemma; either vote against him in the next election and risk getting an representative who will be happy to rip me off for more more cash each year BUT is bound to ask a few more questions pertinent to my life and won’t spend his/her whole time in parliament worrying about foriegn affairs and human rights in countries I will never bother going on holiday to.
Actually, to be honest, it won’t be that much of a dilemma…..
I went to a meeting with JC the other day and I was frankly pretty impressed at how straight up he was.
I’d stick with him even if he is a bit of a loon. At least he has priniciples.
JC? As in “JC is a friend of mine, he plays goal for Palestine”?
Well I did say a loon, but at least he appeared honest!
In terms of personal ethics Corbyn is in a class of his own. The only other MP who came close was Dave Nellist. If you want someone who’s honest you have to put up with them playing outside left for the other side.
We shouldn’t be faced with this dilemma. Will Dave make it obligatory for Tory MPs to be honest, or is that asking too much?
Why does it cost The Rt Hon G Brown MP PM £17,073 to stay away from his main home, when he has a grace and favour home at 10 Downing Street, at our expense already?
Likewise Tony Blair who was an MP for only two months of this period, claiming £5772 “cost of staying away from main home” when his family was living at 11 Downing Street during that entire time?
HAHAHAHA – owned!
He has to go somewhere else to watch DVDs
Or maybe he sold all his gold at the wrong time
Or maybe his endowment policy is going to fall short
Blair still at the trough.
Perhaps my 2 local MPs Philip Hammond and Ian Taylor would like to explain the £23,075 and £23,083 for staying away from home allowance when a 1st Class season from Weybridge and Walton on Thames is £4,000 and trains run until at least 1am in the morning from Waterloo? Even a taxi home from Westminster is at worst £75……..less if you pre-book it. This allowance would theoretically cover 307 such trips each! Even less if they shared the ride……..
If your main place of work is in Weybridge and your work requires you to work in London, it is not unreasonable to have overnight accomodation paid for by expenses.
However, they MUST be expenses.
Actually the last train to Egham is at 23:35. I don’t know where Philip Hammond lives, though the phone number listed is localish to me . But I showed it was possible to get back home after the whole of the debate on the third runway
Maybe he commutes by helicopter? !I also like the way he skillfully got his expenses within £8 of the total allowed.
Ask them yourself instead of commenting on a forum!
Why the fuck has Gordon Brown claimed £17k for staying away from home?!
Sarah Brown
I’d pay him 17k to stay IN the fucker.
Has anybody asked him how much he would want for staying away from the UK?
The communications allowance was voted in at £10k per annum, so all the MPs who claimed more than that (and there’s lots of them) need to start digging into the pockets.
Actually it increases every financial year by the RPI figure as at the preceding New Years Eve.
Sinn Fein can claim because of the lying Hunt Blair. It was part of his “hand of history” up the public’s arse for the Good Friday agreement. You know, the one that has led to religious apartheid in Ulster, gangsterism as “mainstream” politics and still some more dead soldiers. Still a small price to pay for having him walk among us, eh? There is nothing, absolutely fucking nothing, that the Hunt Blair has not fucked us over with. And some Hunts think he was good! Un-fucking-believable.
So £23,083 is the maximum amount for “staying away from main home”.
Clare Ward – Watford. 20mins on the train to Euston, £13 per day return by Oyster. I pay it – so can she.
Please confirm your postcode and house number….
Maybe it would be better value to pay them all 23,083 to stay at home and not do any more fucking damage
I see Mr David Mundell has been claiming office costs of £28,618 ie way above the average of about£17-1800.
Wonder why. I suppose this ought to be supressed and we ought to to turn a blind eye. Its for ” sake of the union” you know.
Hee Hee! Nobody is going to notice that I’ve hidden the cost of my nightly gay porno movies habit under Centrally Purchased Stationery.
Tra Laa
nyone short of work to do and fancy exporting all this data into an Excel spreadsheet so we can sort by descending trougher totals and stuffs?
several million are short of work and counting, sadly owing to the eduycashun system under Nulabia, most probably think a spread sheet is what single mothers put on state paid for baby beds in state paid for flats.
Guido has been trying to censor me because he’s scared that I will expose the lies of the Right. You hypocrite! You claim to be a “Libertarian” but you don’t want any opposing views on this website. I will e-mail Derek Draper so that he can expose you on Labourlist again, thus demolishing any credibility you still have.
Ooh look troll!
Thanks Harman. If you are being censored, why are you here? Idiot.
It’s your rubbish algorithm thingy isn’t it?
Tra laa!
It’s your rubbish algorithm thingy isn’t it?
Tra laa!
“I will e-mail Derek Draper so that he can expose you on Labourlist again” – is this some kind of joke? Shades of the ‘Black Knight’ here…
What the hell does ‘Harman_Pride’ mean anyhow? – seems like some sexual orientation to me.
Can we have the political parties on the web page too and maybe some analysis on averages etc (easily done in MS Excel)?
I’m curious as to who is the greediest party….
“Exposed on Labourlist” ….that is an oxymoron is it not?
You know you really could do more to make yourself prettier.
I see Mr Draper has been excised from Woman’s Hour. I even listened twice just in case I’d missed him.
hhohoh.
I hear from OH that Jenni Murray also told him to shut up.
Bless.
“I will e-mail Derek Draper so that he can expose you on Labourlist again, thus demolishing any credibility you still have.”
That’s really made my day!
You’re kidding – he really said that? What a twat.
Harman Pride sounds like some grim ritual where you end up with a bloody bottom.
I would surmise that Gordon Brown’s main home is 10 Downing Street, and that the cost of staying away from home represents trips to his house in Scotland.
But 10 Downing Street isn’t *his* home – it’s a grace and favour home, so incurs no cost to him… unless, of course, the fucker’s gone and re-mortgaged it! Wouldn’t put that past him at all!!
His constituency home is his only home, and so shouldn’t be eligible for the Additional Costs Allowance…
Well to be fair I suppose it would be acceptable for him to be driven up there every so often. Whether that’s worth 17K is debatable though.
It doesn’t exactly encourage confidence in the figures when they list:
Ancram,
Earl of, Rt Hon
Michael
He might be called Michael Ancram (from his courtesy title) but he’s been the Marquess of Lothian since the death of his father in 2004.
Harman caught at it again!
Can’t she get enough?
Isn’t she claiming large enough assets already?
How can such graphic evidence be ignored.
Now did the cover up happen?
Did she put on a long dark raincoat?
She needs too and perhaps a bag over her face as well might help!
It’s not the first time she’s been caught fiddling with her assets!
And the public would be in total shock and horror to see her involved in such scenes!
Very amature stuff.
Not even good enough for readers wives!
Rudi Vis, Labour, Finchley: Way up at the top end:
£23,083 the max
£21,328 cost of running his office
£88,910 staff
£2,104 stationery
£4,630 postage
£1,378 IT
£9,390 Comms allowance.
Well a Labour win there was a surprise, so no surprise if it goes Tory next time.
Nick Robinson this moning inadvertently published an allegation by ‘friends’ of the Home Secretary, which actually makes it clear that she made her expenses claims without actually knowning which residence she was using WAS her primary residence. Let’s see if he follows up a story LITERALLY handed to him on a plate. Here’s what I posted on his blog:
Nick,
As I pointed out to you this morning, you have just been handed a story which is much bigger than the Home Secretary’s phoney claim for porn on her husband’s behalf. The Home Secretary’s ‘friends’ appear to have inadvertently confirmed that she has been making fraudulent claims over which is her ‘prime residence’. Why are you suppressing this story, which contradicts everything she and her defenders have said?
Let me explain.
The big hoo-ha about Jackie Smith has been that she has claimed a large sum in expenses for the use of her home in her constituency, where here husband and children live. She has repeatedly insisted that because she spends most of her time living at her sister’s address in London, her sister’s house is her primary residence and the house in her constituency is therefore her ‘second residence’, so she can make the claim. Fair enough.
Now, in the opening part of your story this morning, you say: “The irony is that only last week she told friends that she expected to be cleared in the inquiry into the expense claims for her second home. The home secretary has been poring over her home, constituency and office diary to plot where she had spent each night in the past year.”
Now, you must have heard this from her ‘friends’ (more than one)? Or at any rate by some means which is presumably confidential this information imparted by her ‘friends’ reached your ears. Some of these expenses for her ‘second home’ were submitted years ago, and we all know that such a claim can only be lawful if she KNEW she had spend the majority of her time there. Yet you say that LAST WEEK her ‘friends’ were saying that she ‘has been poring over her … diary to plot where she had spent each night in the past year’. In other words, her ‘friends’ have told you that until last week she didn’t know whether her claim that the house in London was her prime residence was true.
That sounds very like fraud to me. It also sounds like all the assertions by her, the Prime Minister and others, that her claim was ‘within the rules’ are also completely wrong.
Now, I’ve made comments here in the past because I think you allow yoirself to be influenced so that you do not write anything which is too critical of the Government. It appears that in this you have been given a piece of information which demonstrates that she has lied in order to maximise her expenses, but you have chosen to look at this piece of information only to ameliorate the embarrassment to the Home Secretary of her husband’s porn habit.
Will you now investigate, with these ‘friends’, exactly what their revelation that she has not looked at her diaries before to where she lives before she makes her expenses claim actually means for her? I know that she, and the Labour Party, may not like you doing that, and I know that it may get a bit icy for you in the canteen, as her sister works at the BBC. Unfortunately for her, and possibly for you also if you didn’t mean to, you have this morning published the ‘smoking gun’ which shows her to have made fraudulent expense claims.
*gets popcorn* well spotted Sir.
Every day, when she leaves either the house in Redditch or her sister’s address, she would be accompanied by one or more armed police protection officers, just like every other Home Secretary before her, and the police officer would also take her home at night, wherever home might be. For obvious reasons, it is all carefully recorded in the individual officer’s official Diary and elsewhere. It would be very easy to look back over the past year, grab a sheet of paper, write down two column headings, one for London, one for Redditch and just fucking count. Why isn’t it done? What a silly question.
What happens if they count 180 days in both homes and 5 days wanking in a hotel? Interesting
My MP, Kevan Jones (Labour, Durham North) has claimed the maximum for ‘staying away from main home’ (of course) but its his office and staff costs that made me snort coffee down my shirt.
His office is in the ex mining village of Sacriston, County Durham. This must be one of the lowest wage areas in the country and yet he still managed to spend over £90k on ‘staff’. How??
Mr Jones is very keen on keeping MPs expenses secret. You know, for security and that
Erm, MPs have staff in Westminster you know
I am well aware of that – my point is that the constituency element of his staff bill should be one of the lowest in the country. Which makes his high overall figure difficult to explain.
Graduates called Tarquin, financed by Mummy and Daddy who work for the BBC and live in Islington, you mean?
Piss off with that shite
I see Hoon is a £23, 083 Hoon.
The sum of £23,083 should be known as a ‘Hoon’
The sum of £23,083 shall now known as a ‘Hoon’
The activity of masturbating to adult entertainment paid for by someone else will be referred to as a Jacqui wackie.
Or indeed ‘Jacquing Off’
That will be 1 hoon then si vous plait monsieur.
Of the MPs who claimed over £100,000 in staffing expenses, those who aren’t ministers or the Leader of the Opposition are:
Harry Cohen Lab
Lynne Jones Lab
Ann Keen Lab
Khalid Mahmood Lab
Judy Mallaber Lab
Bob Neill Con
Stephen Pound Lab
Clare Short Ind/Lab
Peter Tapsell Con
Ian Taylor Con
Bill Wiggin Con
Michael Wills Lab
Mike Wood Lab
I wonder what they do with it all?
… and then there’s Philip Hollobone (Con, Kettering) on £400.
£100k!!!!!!
Apart from being infamous for squeezing the taxpayer til it squeaked – what have these people ever stood up for to generate such an enormous workload???
I’d be happy to give Peter Tapsell a hundred grand to spend on something useful like court dress, but as for the others…
Dear Phil,hasn’t got a clue has he?
Imagine how much better his retirement would be if he fleeced us for more.
Dear xxxxxxxx
I notice that Her Majesty’s Government has recently published your expenses as my MP.
After much scrutiny, I notice that you have grabbed £xxxxx from my wallet for “the cost of staying away from your main home”. You fat idle Hunt! You only live xx miles from fucking Parliament! I know deaf, dumb and blind people who commute further than that every day on filthy lice ridden trains whilst dodging hooded knife wielding scrotes! As you are away so often and I’m paying for it, I am going to seduce your wife and daughters. Up their arses. With a handful of sand.
I also notice that you spend £xxxx of my hard earned money on “staff”. Considering I hear from you once every four years, might I ask as to exactly what I am paying them for? I realise there is a good chance they are your nephew or cousin but nevertheless, they could get a job washing cars or mopping up vomit in McDonalds if they want to spend their gap year “doing” Asia to “find themselves”.
Your Comms allowance is also £xxxxx. What the fuck? Have you launched your own satellite? Why the hell do need that much money to tell me what I can already read about you on a piece of used bog paper?
In total, you cost me £xxxxxx a bastard year. Enough to pay off my mortgage. You BASTARD.
So. As you are my employee and all your “staff” are my employees, and you are spending all my fucking money, I am coming round to “quantatively ease” your fingers off my fucking wallet with a sledgehammer.
Love and kisses
Old Holborn
Dear Old Holborn,
I hope you realise that in the current War on Terror, any abusive correspondence or threats of violence made against Government ministers will be taken very seriously and may mean your e-mail and Internet usage is monitored in the future.
Having fought terrorists for the UK, I’d just like to inform you, Harman-Pride you sniveling little Nazi, that the point of any War on Terror is so that we can maintain our freedoms, such as free speech and assembly (even if that assembly is in cyberspace).
If people wish to express a wish to do violence to Uk government ministers it is because of their genuine anger and frustration at said government minsters criminality, lies, incompetence, war mongering and treachery to the electorate of the country. Got that?
Your threats are pathetic. A Government that criminalises its people, criminalises itself and relinquishes its authority.
Go make your pathetic threats elsewhere.
I intend to hang the Hunts from lamp posts with piano wire and petrol, disembowel them, feed the remains to pigs and send the cleaning bill to their relatives. Is that abusive enough?
My Email is oldhoborn@gmail.com. They know who I am.
I see you have changed your name from Labourlist.org to Labour.org
Dear me – hope you aren’t applying for a job at M15.
Dear Harman_Pride,
I do hope you realise that as a woman your place is in the home and not on the internet.
Ms Harman – some long words in your post for a pretty little thing like you.
Shouldn’t you be at home getting Jack’s dinner ready?
Dear Harman pride – thank you again for being a comedy genius.
You really can fuck off.
Brilliant, a slightly amended (no sand up the arse bit) version is en route to my MP!!!!!
Was it lonely and yet crowded, at sea?
Auntie Climax post 89 (no balls to leave reply option)
Msg. Lonely? perhaps you’ll feel at home meathooked and swinging from lamp posts with your criminal NuLabour creed, which is the fate you deserve.
Be on notice you are breaking the law.
I know. I’m smoking at my desk
We know too.
Give it up, OH, you know you want to!
I’m smouldering slightly in my study.
My Con MP ain’t getting my vote, for the first time in my entire life.
1) Look at Spelman’s travel expenses – she is claiming for more than the cost of a standard annual season ticket to her constituency, PLUS £££ for car travel, PLUS spouse journeys at over £100 a go on average for a journey which costs just over £30 for a standard fare! (London > Solihull constituency)
2) Ed Balls is claiming £2,000 for ‘family’ journeys. Yvette Cooper also claiming just over £2,000. £4,000 for the Balls family to go return from Westminster > constituency at weekends.
3) Julie Kirkbride is claiming £1,392 in travel for her spouse… who is also an MP (Andrew McKay)!!! He in turn is claiming £408 for her travel.
To put this in a context that the voters will understand – every year, their MP wins 5 numbers on the lottery and its the voters money!
I know that office costs include staff costs, but considering that most researchers are being paid a pitance because they also hope to be able to join the MP gravy train one day – I would pay them separately – from income support!
5 numbers on the Lotto is usually about £1500. These bastards have got 5 + the bonus ball!
Where’s Galloway pride? Cracking one off at our expense probably.
A complete bunch of onanists = Labour!
Hoon’s the lot of them!
Dolly boys up late today I see. too busy filling in their expense vouchers?
Guidorc’s gone all paranoid techno since his telly flop/belly flop.
Sigh!
Why is Brown taken £17,073 of us the tax payers for “Cost of staying
away from main home” I do believe we paying for a London flat and his constituency home. Is downing street and chequers not is not enuth for him?
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_iSICCdVNHB8/SdDaNAk5xLI/AAAAAAAAACY/S_i0zmmB6EM/s1600-h/blairexpense.JPG
Snapshot of Bliar’s. Column 7 (staff cover) is interesting. Maybe he paid it to G. Brown – you know, for being a ‘supply prime minister’.
Well, not that interesting…ho hum
Dominic Grieve my mp didnt trough that much. Seemed like a good bloke when i met him.
too posh to be high profile tory though.
nice to know that useless bitch linda riordan has her nose well stuffed in the trough
whilst halifax goes down the pan, the is stuffing her pockets, whilst crying foul at the whole HBOS debarcle
thieving fucking bitch..!
The Conservatives were well known for their sleaze in the Major years – compared with Neil Hamilton and Jonathan Aitken and Jeffrey Archer, is this really the best you can dig up?
Jacqui Smith didn’t know about this – can she really be held accountable for everything her husband did?
Everyone slips up now and then. What really matters is not how MPs conduct every detail of their private lives, but how they run the country.
The public is more interested in delivery than gossip. For example, new data shows that the NHS has met its target to treat patients within a maximum of 18 weeks from referral by their GP – an achievement which was unimaginable 12 years ago.
In 1997, Labour inherited an NHS ignored and starved of funds. The investment and reform since then has built towards an NHS we can all be proud of and made a real difference to the lives of people across the country.
Harman_Pride, how much would you charge for a quickie behind the bins at Sainsbury’s?
Probably FoC, mate. Doing her a favour.
Dear Harman_Pride
It is completely accepted that it was not Jacqui Smith who was watching and wanking herself silly over the adult channels and the pay per view porn films. That was her sexually depraved husband and political researcher Richard Timney. Obviously Jacqui has been unable to fulfil his sexual needs and perverted desires.
However it was Jacqui Smith who claimed for the above on her expenses which she signed for and submitted. As a result of this she is now the laughing stock of the world. A politician who lives away from home and fiddles her expenses while her husband jerks himself off over hardcore pornography paid for by the taxpayer. Did anybody envisage back in 1997 that a Labour Government would end up in this state of decay and squalor?
Lets just hope for Jacqui Smiths sake that their are no further revelations coming in the Redditch Wankergate scandal, we can only guess at the internet activity of dear old Timney the logs of which will be with Virgin Media kept as a result of changes in the law made by his wife’s Government. Maybe Ms Smith ought to get someone to have a discreet look before its splashed all over next weeks Daily Express.
Labour Governments = taxpayer founded pornography
Try telling that to the victims of Staffordshire trust.
Nobody believes your data anymore you stupid fucking Hunt.
Lies.
You can’t argue with facts!
You mean ‘lies’.
Weirdo.
I hope face cancer gets you in 17 weeks
She fucking does know about her second home scam though.
Thieving whore.
All that energy devoted to rigging statistics. All that money devoted to employing bed-wetters, box-tickers and make-weights in marginal constituencies. Meanwhile the economy has been destroyed and Brown is reduced to literally printing money.
Oh, but you banned fox-hunting.
The priorities of the fifth form.
http://www.politicshome.com/Landing.aspx?Blog=6940&perma=link
Sure
YOU SIR OR MADAM ARE A TWAT!
WE PAY FOR THE NHS!
SO IS IT TOO MUCH TO ASK THEM TO DO THEIR JOBS?
TO STOP BEING DIRTY BASTARDS AND KILLING THOUSANDS EACH YEAR?
jacqui smith is a fraudulent thief…….so are many of the others.
now go and sit on the naughty step before derek comes back and starts shouting
‘arbeit macht frei’.
Well Harpie-Pride, I’ll give you one thing, at least you have a skin like an elephant. The whole edifice is crumbling around you – and yet, like a true LieBore troll reach for the old tractor production statistics. Hilarious.
You were all alone in your bunk were you.
Were they horrid to you?
We’ve been behind in the polls before and bounced back every time.
Labour has faced huge problems in our 12 years in power. The fuel crisis, foot and mouth, 9/11, the Iraq war, the 7/7 terrorist attacks, and the banking crisis.
In each case, Labour has risen to the challenge and proved that we alone can take Britain forward and build a fairer, more prosperous country. We are not afraid to take the long-term decisions needed to ensure a better future for our children.
This poll shows that if the economy recovers, we can still win the next election.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/mar/17/labour-general-election-poll
Michael White points out that John Major’s government managed a surprise win in a similar situation: http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/blog/2009/mar/20/michael-white-can-labour-win
By opposing Labour’s fiscal stimulus, the Conservatives have set themselves against providing real help now for families and businesses. They are committed not just to spending less in a time of need but also to spend less in the future. By doing nothing, they would deepen the downturn and delay the recovery, just as they did in the recessions of the 1980s and 1990s. They would make Britain weaker not stronger for the future.
Keep it up, this is their standard and very boring modus operandi.
They themselves will tire of repeating their sexist, racist, homophobic nonsense.
In the meantime silent observers can be reminded of the bizarre attitudes and agenda the Conservatives have to pander to for electoral gain.
Conservatives stand for very little, now officially they have no philosophy or purpose. Aprt from striving for personal gain.
Two jobs, three jobs, four jobs, it’s never enough for Conservatives
Financial misconduct = Conservatives
*the Guiness Book of World Records – Most Twathead Post of 2009.
Since when has having a job been a bad thing, you muppet?
I would much rather an MP came from a background where he/she had actually had to, you know, earn a living.
Kevan Jones, my own (Labour) MP’s CV reads like this: Politics graduate, National Union of Students administrator, TUC adminstrator, Labour MP.
In other words, this forty-odd year old man has never had a productive job in his entire life.
Now as an MP he is in Hog’s Heaven. Always one of the top expense claimants and very keen to keep MPs financial details a secret from the people who pick up the bill – us.
Lots of the few Conservative MPs that there are have not done a ‘real job’, they’ve followed the familiar staff, adviser route.
But either way, one job at a time now, one job at a time.
Do the job you’re paid for.
If you have enough time for a second third or fourth job, volunteer it, or pay back your Parliamentary salary, allowances and expenses, at least.
Now, who bank rolls William Hague’s ‘office’?
Financial misconduct = Conservatives
Porn on expenses = Labour.
They’re talking to each other again–piss off to draperlist and bore each other to death over there you clowns.
We need a compilation of “Dollys” greatest hits–the most smug trolling shite yet produced by Man. To be broadcast after ZaNus GE wipeout followed by release on KTEL–”Now that’s what I call Smug Bullshite.”
what a wanker
See…
Financial misconduct = Conservatives
Jacquing off = Liebour Home Secretary errr is this still Great Britain?, must have lost me specs.
The point about Aitken and Archer was they were in fact punished, by being convicted and sent to Jail. Hamilton was also punished though not as severley. This lot however do not even receive a mild telling off. No one is denying the abuses of the last tory administration, the difference was it was dealt with and they went into the political wilderness for years. This lot are getting away with it and thats what is causing the anger and frustration. You dont see that do you. Fool.
Deaths as well. Don’t forget Salford had the novel Nu Labour idea of culling some patients so that they could make the figures. Worth every penny of the increased NHS costs ( and patients lives ) to get the figures correct.
Blimey – blair tops the charts for ‘staff cover and other costs’.
Meanwhile Tom Brake gave almost 2,000 worth of central staionary back?!?! Whats the story there?
Disgusting troughers = NuLabour
Can somebody sum all of the columns up and put on here?
Then I can divide it by my increasing blood pressure…
that’ll be your next gas bill
At the bottom of each page it invites us to look at the explanatory note ‘for deatils of budgetary flexibilities’.
I rather suspect that all we need do is look in the newspapers for that.
OT..on sky now, obama is suck a wanker….one moment he is saying no to protectionism, now he is saying he is gonna basicaly bail out the US car industry,
did the US only elect him because he was black ?????, he talks like the words are read to him via an ear piece ???
tripping over words all over the place
FUCK OFF OBAMA
Do you realise how racist you sound? Typical of the Nasty Party.
Meanwhile, Labour has:
Established the Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) to act as a strong, independent champion to tackle discrimination and promote equality for all.
Widened and strengthened the Race Relations Act to include a positive duty on public bodies to promote good race relations and legislated for aggravated sentences for racially motivated crimes.
Through the introduction of civil partnerships, Labour has for the first time given legal recognition to same-sex partners. Gay couples now have the same inheritance, pension and next-of-kin rights as married couples.
“Widened and strengthened the Race Relations Act to include a positive duty on public bodies to promote good race relations and legislated for aggravated sentences for racially motivated crimes.”
Did that actually involve any real action at all? Cos it reads like a bunch of bull.
Labour = Fake jobs for Labour voters
Hi Galloway,
You forgot Labours main achievements. Bankrupt the entire country. Alienated the entire Muslim world with a fucking pointless war in Iraq.
Oh and banned fox-hunting.
Nice set of priorities you jackasses have.
So?
Of what benefit is that to the population?
Cui Bono?
Absolute bollocks, the lot of it. Non-Job creation scheme for unemployable lefties.
labour-widening the circles of their friends……..
who really gives a toss (er jacquis old man)?
the country is being bankrupted before our eyes and you keep postimg this bollocks!
Do you realise what a twat you sound?
and it does fuck all to stop discrimination of disabled people
EHRC is real trouble as everybody’s resigning from i9t
wanker
Fuck off!
It might have been nicer had they paid any attention whatsoever to the economy over the last 12 years rather than appeasing nasty little leftie shits like you, though.
and the country is bankrupt , nice one.
Fucking great. That’ll bankrupt the yanks. Building massive cars that nobody wants to buy and meeting the insane pay demands of the auto-workers. They’re about to go all 1960/70′s Britain.
Ha ha. Fuck ‘em. Can only be good for the pound. Although Brown will probably use the excuse to print even more fucking money to keep the pound completely in the shitter on a par with the USD. Because he is a fucking lunatic.
Perhaps this is being over played?
Everything is so negative.
The voter doesn’t warm to it any more.
You’ve got tp have hope and optimism.
Still it is easy though, probably all daily mail readers can manage.
You are right. Hope and optimism are the right words. Hope that the number of labour MPs in the HOC after the next election is less than the number of fingers on one hand, and optimism that the figure is constant for the next 100 years or so.
The English are far too complacent! We have a Home Secretary who is a thieving, disgusting joke! We have a Labour Employment Minister who is a lying, thieving, disgusting joke! We have Dawn Butler, who is another thieving Minister and a joke! We have a self appointed Prime Minister who is a disgusting joke! We should march on Westminster and barricade the place, until that stinking sewer is dissolved and we can have a General Election to get rid of the porcine swine and demand probity and patriotism in future from the place which is supposed to represent US the people (the ones the trough swillers have forgotten about, the poor sods who have to pay all the bills for bloated state and trough swillers in what passes for Parliament these days)!
Yes, but that’s the problem – they are English and would rather just have a nice cup of tea. That is also why they are so easily shafted by this criminal gang posing as a government.
Try it – you will quite rightly be arrested and detained under anti-terror laws.
It you want to remove an MP that’s what elections are for.
So you don’t believe in People Power – that our elected representatives were elected to represent us and that when they are no longer fulfilling that function, we the sovereign people do not have the right to get rid of them? It is all about numbers. Five people turn up to protest and they are arrested. Five million turn up to protest and it is curtains for the charlatans currently pretending to be the government of this once great country!
This country has been stuffed by ZaNuLabour who are a bunch of traitors who hate the English in any case – and by God that must be clear to all by now!
Five million protesters won’t succeed. The police have riot gear and shields, and will use other means if necessary to preserve peace and order on Britain’s streets. As Churchill said, we will never give in to force.
I hope you realise that conspiracy to overthrow the Government is breaking the law.
pretending to be serious should also be against the law – idiot pride
Hunt.
5 million and riot police would count for fuck all.
Come the revolution i know exactly who the people would want to get first. The snivelling, grovelling apologists for the regime.
“quite rightly be arrested and detained under anti-terror laws.”
That pretty much sums up the Neues Arbeit attitude – ‘anti-terror’ laws aimed at the majority of the populace who now despise the Government more as each day passes.
I’ll be down on Wednesday, and the first of Jackboot’s blue uniformed troops who gets in my face is going down, and down hard. We will take Westminster, and we will get rid of this shower of shit that poses as a government.
Labour Pride my arse – I learnt my Labour politics at my grandad’s knee, and these Hoons aren’t Labour.
give us one then if you think you are hard enough !
we’d get away with it if we grew beards and all dressed like Islamic Jihadists.
in the face of that , british cops tend to run away. (see riots near Israeli embassy)
….note “under anti terror laws”, the jacquing off hoons actually believe this Nazi regime has got it right – Lord help us.
Derek Wyatt (Lab), Sittingbourne, just about one hour from Victoria Station. Many of his constituents commute daily on the poxy North Kent line, and he claims this magical £23,083 too. Why? Staying away from main home? I don’t think so.
‘Staffing costs’ at £91,000 p.a.? I don’t think so.
‘Office running costs’ at £18,500 p.a.? Hardly likely given the location.
Let’s see real signed off accounts, not these works of light fiction. And let’s also see their diaries.
I have just seen Brown on Sky News. His comment on Smith and her fraudulent expeses claim was that it was a “Personal Affair”.
Unbelievable!!!The Home Secretary, one of the most senior posts in HM Government, is caught claiming PUBLIC MONEY for pornographic purposes and our “Dear Leader” tells us to ignore it and leave the poor woman alone.
Is this how British politics is conducted in 2009? Ye Gods! Why do us “little people” bother paying tax?
Brown, call an election you coward.
Yes – it makes you wonder what on earth has happened to Brown’s Moral Compost doesn’t it? I wonder where he has buried it. I guess the problem is that he would have to sack half his Cabinet if he got rid of Two Homes, Two Home Movies Jackboot. So he should call an election now! We need rid of this whole sorry mess of a rubbish bunch of traitors called Government.
What you chaps do not understand when trying to analyse the logic of claiming the £23087 on ‘cost of extra accomodation’ is that this expense allowance is a form of legitimised theft from the public purse.
When will you understand that normal business practice and average standard of morality/integrity does not apply to politicians. They are gentically corrupt and Westminster itself is intitutionally corrupt. But we are not supposed to notice.
some mps claim maximum staff expenses in cash and then just do all the work themselves anyway.
is this right?
yes
Mr OH – looks like you are a Twitter typo.
Plato – quite deliberate, he does it so no-one can call him a fag.
heres another “Jacqui Joke”:
http://www.london-hotels.co.uk/news/jacqui-smith-offered-new-post.htm
She really does need to go
Nice to see my MP has claimed the magical £23,083 sum, his staffing costs are quite high but on the other end of things office costs are low and he’s quite a good chap so he’s safe for now.
Gordon Brown claimed £8.99 for a butt-plug. Is he entitled to do that or is he just ripping off the taxpayer?
Total Expense Claim = £86,781,205
Avg. Expense Claim = £ 134,544.50
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/29/obamas-are-personally-pay_n_180551.html
Any expense claim made at the exact maximum entitlement suggests that such MP is either:
(1) generously subsidising the taxpayer by funding otherwise legitimate claims from his or her own pocket, or
alternatively (surely not, tsk tsk)
(2) inflating the genuine disbursements so as fully to to clean out the allowance locker.
My guess is that (2) camp is somewhat more popular than the (1).
I see Rosindell, that thick never-had-a-proper-job-in-his-life MP for Romford, has his snouts in the trough (again!)
On the subject of Rosindell, I see his nearest Con MP Brokenshire (Hornchurch), claimed only £386.00
Work that out.
How do you find out if they allegedly live in the constituency?
HHhhhhhhhhHow the fuck does barbera follett get to spend £20,000 on staying away from her main home – sounds ficticious to me !
Well her husband is broke. I mean he’s only sold about 100 million books….
Don’t really give a shit about expenses, but I do wonder how the hell Brown managed to claim a living away from home allowance.
The Tories’ lead is “soft”, a new poll reveals.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/mar/17/labour-general-election-poll
I just wanted to canvas opinion on this site – who would consider returning to Labour if the economy improves enough by next May?
Also the Conservative leadership is soft.
Tra laa!
Great, maybe the fuckers will come up with some better ideas.
Cameron and his Old Etonian clique are worried. They know that most opposition parties have historically polled 50% before regaining power.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/blog/2009/mar/20/michael-white-can-labour-win
Michael White still thinks we can win and so do I.
We’ve been behind in the polls before and bounced back every time.
Labour has faced huge problems in our 12 years in power. The fuel crisis, foot and mouth, 9/11, the Iraq war, the 7/7 terrorist attacks, and the banking crisis. In each case we were written off but we weathered the storm and recovered.
As Winston Churchill said, “Never give in. Never give in. Never, never, never, never–in nothing, great or small, large or petty–never give in, except to convictions of honor and good sense. Never yield to force. Never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy.”
Well since he received 500+ negative comments on his Dan Hannan ad hom attack, I suspect Sir Michael is in fact a dick-head
As Labour would say – Never face the the truth. Never. Never, ever. In matters great or small. Lie, lie, lie and lie again. In the face of over-whelming truth. Lie. And lie again. And lie often.
There are many people who have grave misgivings in this crisis, they are scared and anxious.
However they know that the mess the UK is in is because of free market ideology running rough shod over the needs of the people.
The Conservaitve Party is still infiltrated by its own radical free market ideologues, Eurosceptics and ‘anti immigration’ groupings as well as dirty money support.
People know we can’t risk that nonsense any more.
Although the Conservatives try to cloak or hide their true intent, their Achilles heel is their dim witted followers who will demand bits of red meat and blue water and all the other clap trap notions they love. When they show or we expose their true face, they’ll be sunk, again.
Tra laa!
Oh Labour can win. I don’t doubt it. But it won’t be because of their economic record. Nor their handling of the unnecessary war on Iraq.
It will be the BBC wot don it. A full-on campaign of misinformation, lies, more lies, rigged figures, denial of platform to the Torys, full-on propaganda blitz. Any time public opinion against the financial destruction of the UK turns against the government then Fred Goodwin and Andy Hornby will wheeled out to the ‘court of public opinion’ and given the full Emmanuel Goldstein treatment. The better to help us all in understanding who the government wants us to blame.
Profoundly depressing even to think about such an awful outcome. We must all work tirelessly to ensure it does not happen.
Labour has faced huge problems in our 12 years in power. The fuel crisis, foot and mouth, 9/11, the Iraq war, the 7/7 terrorist attacks, and the banking crisis. In each case we were written off but we weathered the storm and recovered.
Actually, just looking at that list – apart from 9/11 which can’t reasonably be blamed on this Labour government every other single ‘crisis’ was actually the direct fault of the Labour government. That’s the level of goodwill you have squandered. The electorate were prepared to let you get away with that level of idiocy just to teach Thatcher and Major’s governments a ‘lesson’ and you reward the electorates trust by totally destroying the economy.
It would have been easier to get it right.
Utter fuckwits.
Harman_Pride let us have a wager on the outcome of the next General Election.
Say £1000. Lab win I give to the charity of your choice. Cons win and you give to the charity of my choice.
Here is a chance to underline that that you mean what you say.
Labour will only win if people have gone soft in the head. Let’s list Labour’s crimes for you:
1. “Whiter than white, purer than pure.” – better ask Bernie Ecclestone about that one.
2. Taxed pension funds, so that only public sector workers now get final salary schemes.
3. Brown sold the UK’s gold reserves at a knock down price.
4. Brown squandered the proceeds of growth, so we were running with a damagingly high PSBR before we ever went into recession. Now, the public finances are stuffed for a generation and will require massive spending cuts and tax rises to fix.
5. Brown is a boastful idiot who called an “end to boom and bust”.
6. Devolution to Scotland and Wales has disadvantaged England.
7. The Iraq War.
8. Mass immigration – noone voted for that!
9. Multi culturalism and the destruction of English culture and traditions.
10. Self appointed PM – Brown was not even elected leader by his own party.
11. IR35.
12. The Human Rights Act – an unmitigated disaster for the law abiding citizens of this country.
13. Relentless dumbing down of educashun.
14. The death of David Kelly and the Hutton Whitewash.
15. Mass immigration.
16. No referendum on the Lisbon Treaty, despite that being a Labour Manifesto pledge in the 2005 election.
17. Squandering our hard earned tax money on unreformed public services.
18. Mass immigration.
19. Sleaze, sleaze, sleaze.
20. Setting up the FSA which totally failed to regulate the banking industry.
21. Mass immigration.
Labour are a bunch of traitors – most of the Government is from north of the border, does not like England or the English and it shows.
If the economy ‘improves’ by next May it will be a temporary ‘fix’ at the expense of an ocean of borrowed and printed cash that will destroy us. If it hasn’t already. Which I think it has.
I know that. You know that. And you know that we know that. Labour’s only hope of re-election is to convince enough stupid people that printing exponential amounts of cash indefinitely constitutes a ‘prudent’ economic future. Just like Robert Mugabe.
With the BBC on-side you may manage it. But essentially Labour have us all on the road to financial and political hell.
You complete gimp. There is no similarity whatsoever between our position and Mugabe’s. You are making your side look even more deluded that you already are!
Go Fourth’s response to Dan Hannan
The only difference between Gordon Brown and Robert Mugabe’s approach to finance is that Robert Mugabe is black. And has had a few years longer to fuck up the economy. Bob didn’t manage it overnight either. It took a good 12 years or so before he really started trashing the currency.
Cor, how many draperbot ‘prides’ are there?!
Same (very sad) one?
Mr Den, they are all Derek Draper.
How hilarious it is to hear him told to ‘shut up’ and edited from R4′s Womans’ Hour download, told to ‘shut up’ on The Daily Politics…need I say more?
Good effort trying to get a few hits on whatever shit rebuttal you’ve cobbled together though. God knows you’ve had enough time. Good idea too to go to more trafficked political sites rather than relying on whatever blows into Labourlies.
I haven’t clicked on it. You’ll have to keep hitting ‘refresh’ a lot if you’re going to beat Hannan.
Gordon Pride @185.
Nice to see the come 4th response to Dan Hanan relies on music to try and drown his message. It this the on-line version of sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting la la la ?
Cheers Plato – makes sense.
Just saw this too:
Accurate.
It’s nice to see the Pride family out again today. I wonder if they are being paid (possibly by taxpayers) to come on here and write such utter nonsense.We’ve had it all now. The Iraq War, dodgy dossiers, Gordon Brown’s saving grace, Tractor stats and now opinion polls.
Is this one of Brown’s British jobs for British people initiatives?
Or are you all related to the late Jade Goody?
Actually it’s now just Dolly himself, all the work-experience rebutters threw in the towel after his appalling recent TV “outings”. That and the stench in the office from his refusing to even have a Glaswegian shower and being too mean to pay for air-con. Or maybe just too skint for air-con or deoderant, after all he’s not going to generate any advertising revenue and his latest book is already being remaindered. Poor old Kate’s best earning years are behind her, and Anton’s latest love-child will further ruin her figure, making it more difficult to get well paid show biz roles in future. And another mouth to feed, without any real input from the real father, it all adds up. No wonder Dolly gets all shouty.
Labour will only win if people have gone soft in the head. Let’s list Labour’s crimes for you:
1. “Whiter than white, purer than pure.” – better ask Bernie Ecclestone about that one.
2. Taxed pension funds, so that only public sector workers now get final salary schemes.
3. Brown sold the UK’s gold reserves at a knock down price.
4. Brown squandered the proceeds of growth, so we were running with a damagingly high PSBR before we ever went into recession. Now, the public finances are stuffed for a generation and will require massive spending cuts and tax rises to fix.
5. Brown is a boastful idiot who called an “end to boom and bust”.
6. Devolution to Scotland and Wales has disadvantaged England.
7. The Iraq War.
8. Mass immigration – noone voted for that!
9. Multi culturalism and the destruction of English culture and traditions.
10. Self appointed PM – Brown was not even elected leader by his own party.
11. IR35.
12. The Human Rights Act – an unmitigated disaster for the law abiding citizens of this country.
13. Relentless dumbing down of educashun.
14. The death of David Kelly and the Hutton Whitewash.
15. Mass immigration.
16. No referendum on the Lisbon Treaty, despite that being a Labour Manifesto pledge in the 2005 election.
17. Squandering our hard earned tax money on unreformed public services.
18. Mass immigration.
19. Sleaze, sleaze, sleaze.
20. Setting up the FSA which totally failed to regulate the banking industry.
21. Mass immigration.
Labour are a bunch of traitors – most of the Government is from north of the border, does not like England or the English and it shows.
Total Expenses Claimed = £86,781,205
Avg. Expense Claim = £134,544
Ohh look West London’s favourite couple of looters, the fucking disgraceful Keens….. trousered £313,714.
Not worth a fucking penny those two Hunts.
These two fucktards are pure poison.
Wow!
Looks like nice work if you can get it…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoon#Anti-hoon_legislation_in_Australia
OT – Apparently Australia has taken measures against Hoon. I suggest a motion be brought forward proposing our very own anti-hoon measures -involving ropes and land rope involved..
I think MPs are worth every penny. And if they want to claim every penny, they are perfectly entitled to do so.
I would happily give my house, my business, my wife, my daughters and all my pets to my local MP because I think he is doing such a fine job.
He makes at least one speech and turns up to at least four debates every year. He occasionally appears on Question Time, too.
And unlike you misanthropes and ne’er’-do-wells, I am not going to whinge because he spends the odd £20,000 on butt-plugs and cock-rings.
Stop being so beastly, all of you.
Top trougher is Anne Keen £167,306
Least trougher is Philip HolloBone £40,433
Labour are a bunch of publically funded onanists
I know this is hardly the forum to stick up for MPs but it is surely worth pointing out that most of the money claimed is for office running costs incl. staff. 2nd homes aside this seems fairly bona fide stuff to me.
I see your point, but such is my cynicism about how many of them view the job, I suspect that some might rent otherwise unlettable offices from family members, rent PCs and furniture at inflated prices from brothers-in-law and pay otherwise unemployable spouses handsome salaries for….what? That would ensure that taxpayers’ money stays in the family.
I don’t imagine there to be any audit of exactly what an ‘employee’ does for their money. It’s only when some fiddle is so blatant and a whistle-blower lets on (which I guess may have happened to that Tory, Derek thingy, whose sons were paid while at university).
Unfortunately the only alternative seems to be to put the whole thing in the hands of the civil service who would provide local offices for all, paid for centrally. They would, of course, ensure that costs rocket even higher.
However, I WOULD rent or buy some redundant hotel or other in Pimlico or Bayswater (not top addresses, but walking distance to the HoC), convert it to lots of simple, single rooms and make them use that for overnights. Instant removal of the ‘second homes’ excuse and the associated allowance.
I’m just a thick farmboy, so perhaps I am barking up the wrong haystack, so to speak…
Can anyone explain to me how Gordon can claim £17,073 as a cost for staying away from home when he gets a free grace and favour home a few hundred yards from parliament? Surely it is not shoe leather, as I am sure he gets a free car (?) with driver to take him that distance anyway.
I must be missing something….
Check this out everyone!
Sod off.
Hi Guys
Did you see me on telly today-im dead important me.
Im much more important than you because I bought er obtained my qualifications online.Not many sad acts like me can attain such heights.
Glad to see my boys are keeping you busy-im glad you have all forgotten about my comment on Camerons dead son that I instructed Inquisition to post.
Please visit my very popular blog-have i told you I was on telly today.
I could talk all day about me-I remember when I found a bloke called Anton in my wardrobe…….blah blah blah blah
Wanking on the Taxpayer=Labour
Maybe its on of Gordo’s Green initatives, how to harness the wrist actions of millions of Labour Wankers.
My thieving fucker James Plaskitt has taken the £ 23083 and knocked exactly £199 off it to keep it out of the mainstream. Who the fuck do you think you are kidding Plaskitt?
Top trougher is Anne Keen £167,306
That’s exactly 7.25 Hoons
What a Hoon
Nice to see that my MP (David Laws) hasn’t been too despicable.
Also, am I the only one who finds the posts of Gorgon_Pride and his (its?) little chums to be really quite creepy? Hunts.
Apologies if this has been pointed out before:
A quick glance through the numbers show that all of the cabinet, as far as I can see, are charging well in excess of a hundred grand for what are supposed to be staff and communications allowances. this by the very people who, literally, have paid armies of trained beaurocrats to answer their every whim.
– So, what the fuck is going on, Murphy, Broon, Darling, Millibands ?
PS I see Tony Blair managed to snidey a last wee handout of 63 grand before his tearful exit.
Can someone explain why the spawn of satan otherwise known as Blair is getting a bloody penny in 2008?!
£2887 for communications? How many Nokias does that buy??
Dolly Draper also posts on House Price Crash as Patprimer74 and Wires74. Now his true identity has been exposed his posts have suddenly stopped.
On HPC he is just a sad Troll. It seems he has found a new home here on Guido.
Just to remind you… Don’t feed the Troll. Just ignore Pride this and Pride that.
Draper is a scruffy bully. A bit like his unstable, depressed, alcoholic pornorapher mate Campbell.
What a pair of idiots.
I thought Dolly was famously illiterate. As well as being famously underqualified. Whereas while ***_pride may be posting bollocks at least it’s spelt proper innit. Or is he just a cut’n'paste man for Labour’s Ministry of (mis)Information.
More from the Smith/Timney expenses file:
£ 29 – drinks (Rector Al Probe)
£45 – breakfast (Bart Plugg)
£ 50 – taxi back from the US Embassy reception (Chuck Ingthiogout)
£ 16 – taxi to Indian Embassy (meeting with Ram Pan Trabit)
£ 275 – dinner with Russian Ambassador/Thai Consul (Krimov/Sum Yung Gai)
You forgot:
£182 – dinner with Chinese Interior Minister (Fel Ching)
£35 – lunch with Navaho representative (Sopi Titwank)
£300,000 – kebabs.
Home Economics Secretary – she learnt to cook the books at uni.
My expenses were probably 1/5 of the average MP’s, and I wasted around 3-4 hours every month sorting them out. Conservatively speaking someone, either the MP or a flunkey, must therefore be spending the thick end of 2 days per month justifying these payments. Given that around 85% (if I recall) of Acts are rubberstamped EU Directives, that probably means around half of an MP’s actual work output is on their cashola claim. Nice work if you can get it.
You sad bastard!
Don’t worry about Gordon_pride, Labour_pride, Harman_pride and the other saddos – they are just Draper’s little helpers.
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Here’s mine – Maria Miller, Basingstoke MP
£23,000 for “staying away from home”.
Basingstoke is about 40 minutes from Waterloo by regular commuter train, that only stops at Woking on the way in. Thousands, like me , do it every day.
Costs a bit over £400 per month : thats £4800 a year.
And i have to pay that out of my AFTER TAX wages.
23000 – 4800 comes to 18,200 : 18,200 / 12 months comes to £1516 PER MONTH.
so whats so fucking important that she has to stay up in westminister all the time, especially since our parliament votes on fuck all ( the EU does that for us with 80 per cent of laws) and spends half its time in recess.
they really are taking the fucking piss. corrupt shower of wasters.
The original Guido Fawkes had the right fucking idea.
Any MP claiming under 100k should get a letter of thanks. Except the Rt Hon Tony Blair, who is a fucker and doesn’t deserve thanks for anything.
Thanks Guido,
What’s the bet no response on the following?
FOR THE ATTENTION OF:
Helen Southworth MP
Warrington South
Tuesday 31 March 2009
Anthony Thompson
*address removed*
Dear Helen Southworth,
I am writing to you to try and find out what local issues you represented in Parliament over the last year, where you dissented from the government and constructively aided the local area and to get to the bottom of how you have represented the people, any more than a party based stooge who will advance the Labour Party’s national agenda at the expense of their local constituents.
I am writing under the assumption that the expenses claims listed here : http://www.parliament.uk/documents/upload/HoCallowances0708.pdf are accurate for the 07-08 year.
I note that you have spent over £17,000 staying away from home, clearly this has been a pressing matter for some MPs over the previous few days and weeks but I note your voting record in parliament: 76% of votes have been attended according to your affiliation, that is a rather high amount, and we are not exactly close to Westminster It is also a reduction of £4000 from the year before, which must be commended against a perceived culture of greed in expenses claims set out in the mainstream media.
Your office running costs 06-07 were £20,871 and staffing costs £77,123. To an outsider looking at this situation, it seems a lot of money, that if the amount of votes attended were reduced to a reasonable level (i.e. vote on contentious issues, ones where your vote will count, attend when you have a point to make or a point to hear, matters of local importance etc.) your time would be freed up to cover your staff, also your expenses for staying away from home would fall. This could save a considerable amount of money and raise efficiency. Your costs have changed to £17,630 and £85,361 respectively. That is over a 10% rise in staffing costs.
Can you please let me know if your office is available longer, if your staff were doing an unsuitable job previously and how many more hours a week of labour this additional cash has provided for the local area. I am interested in how this investment has been to the benefit of myself, a tax payer in your constituency. Obviously with the staff you have I would expect a response to this letter.
I am very concerned that whist the people in the town are facing rising pressures, the town centre is in dilapidated condition, shops are closing down, houses are being boarded up, people are in a state of desperation and the effective level of taxation has risen you have done nothing to say to your party “enough is enough,” you have been sitting on your hands and towing the party line, serving entirely the Labour party as your master and ignoring your constituents. There is little evidence that our tax money is going towards anything for the local community, the township or the people and is serving entirely a party that has led this country to ruin.
When you decided to become an MP, I would hope you thought “I will make the world a better place”, and I would hope your priority would’ve been the people that elect you. Please provide some evidence that this is true. Obviously if you do not respond this letter will be published to show your disregard for the local community.
From your record on theyworkforyou.com I can find no support for a claim that you dissent from Labour, your questions raised in the House seem planted and the views you vote in favoor of are clearly opposed by your constituents.
Frankly, in summary, I feel ripped off. Please try to persuade me this is not the case.
Yours sincerely,
Anthony Thompson
Spelman seems to be spending about 30k less on staff than most of the others. Must have fired the nanny.
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