Half of MPs Claim Within 10% of the Maximum

This breakdown of the second home allowance graphically shows how MP’s milk the system. Over half of them claim within 10% of the maximum £23,083 allowed…funny that…
UPDATE : Jacqui Smith claimed £135 under the maximum £23,083. Tsk, tsk.














There has be a straight choice:
Have a salary and no expences or have expences and no salary.
They can’t have both!
Agreed.
They certainly can’t have pornography on expenses.
Ivor Biggun’s old theme tune for Jacqui Smith and family:
And don’t forget they and their families are also entitled to free carparking at airports
– a not inconsiderable perk which does not appear in these figures.
Over half our MPs deserve to die.
Here are there travel expenses detailed separately with spouse, family and staff:
HERE
reply to 98.
Is that stuff included in the “second homes” total?
how interesting.
I see a couple of cumbrian MP’s on 18k and 15k a year for train+car.
Doesnt leave much for kebabs etc.
Brown’s got close to 13k on transport. Isnt that disappointing.
not really – there are always (?) allowable expenses in a job. The point here is that the way in which MP’s expenses are structured is completely out of step with private sector norms. Oversite is wrong, limits are inappropriate, allowable expenses make no sense etc.
This is populist, demagoguic, rabble-rousing nonsense. MPs aren’t breaking the law by claiming these expenses. Unlike Aitken, Hamilton, Archer et al. Labour’s MPs might have made a few mistakes but at least they apolgised and are getting on with the job. It’s not like the Tories are whiter than white – they claim just as much expenses as Labour.
BTW who has seen Go Fourth’s clever response to Dan Hannan?
Already 1,000 views and counting!
GP – no-one is claiming that they have broken the law. Not many people are even claiming that the rules – something quite different to the law – have been broken. It’s the spirit of the thing that sticks in so many people’s throats, particularly while the rest of us have to watch our expenditure more closely by the day.
And 1,000 views for Go Fourth’s video? Remind me, how many views has Hannan’s video had?
probably Guido, Ian Dale and Hannan in their basements hitting “refresh” over and over.
Most of Hannan’s ‘hits’ were from the US having featured on mega red neck blogs Drudge and Limbaugh plus Faux News.
The UK hits was about 50,000, still a lot but nowhere near the amount these people have been wetting their trousers over.
More to the point see Hannan’s interview with Hannity on Faux News (posted on his own blog) to see his views on the NHS.
He wants to scrap it!
Financial misconduct = Conservatives
Total financial meltdown and printing money = Labour
Only 1,713,916 views
Unless your post is in jest, I must say that we’re going on about MP’s in general not a specific party. It is also that they may not have broken the rules but if you created them in the bloody first place then you’re not are you?
Its like become an MP but you also like to murder people. Would changing the law so you can murder people make it morally right? I know it is an excessive comparison but the gist is there.
Jack, trough, my back and yours, common folk and lets all laugh.
What MPs do with their money is totally irrelevant to the vast majority of hard-working British families.
Why don’t you focus on what really matters – like the G20 summit where Gordon Brown will be meeting with Barack Obama and other world leaders to discuss his plans for getting us out of this global economic downturn.
I think that matters more than a few petty scandals.
Hymen Nob…
SO..if this was a TORY you’d be saying the same would you?
Bollocks!!!
“Already 1,000 views and counting!”
rofl
So very sad.
What MPs do with their money
That’s the whole point you stupid little @rsewipe.
IT’S NOT THEIR MONEY – IT’S OURS
Unlike Aitken, Hamilton, Archer et al.
Aye. Labour learned their lessons over that one alright. Politicise anybody who might bring the same charges to bear on their own lot. Hence no charges at all on the Labour Lords bragging how they got laws changed to order by tabling questions for their out-of-office second/third/fourth employers.
Like Tony Blair and his Cash for Peerages investigation died after his mate found no charge to answer. Like the Iraq war whitewash.
The lesson Labour learned was not ‘an end to sleaze’ but ‘an end to accountability’ although I have no doubt that their politicized police, CPS, speaker etc would have no trouble crucifying any Tory for the same crimes.
No point in playing the old tory sleaze card, dolly, they look whiter than white compared to the sleazoid scum in your party.
Now fuck off back to Tuscany.
but you promised that it was all for “skoos ‘n’ hospitaws”
These _Pride trolls are becoming rather tiresome, aren’t they?
Let me try and get this in to your thick skull -
No one has any “pride” in your beloved Gordon. No one. His own party are all too pathetic to stand up to him and tell him that he’s an embarrasment on course fora slow and painful political death. Clinging on to power just for the sake of it only goes to show how utterly undeserving any “pride” someone might have in him.
Now, please just fornicate off. Pronto.
They’re not trolls, they’re quite clearly taking the mick out of trolls like Ambrose Silk etc.
This is one of many similar comments on Youtube you deluded twat.
“I dont think this will go VIRAL John, in fact it is Rubbish….. Labour just dont get IT……
Keep up the good work John”
idiot
When you compare aitken,hamilton and archer on a richter scale of sleaze I think most people would agree that it was a small number of rotten apples in an otherwise healthy barrel.
The Labour barrel however seems rotten from the top to the bottom and if you can find a single healthy apple amongst the stinking sludge – good luck mate.
A prime example of this lousy government was the Hutton whitewash which found the honest guilty and hounded a scientist to death for telling the truth.
p.s. 1000 views on go fourths response – wow – ask someone who gives a toss
Mr Jacqui Smith perhaps?
Dan Hannan’s speech has been seen by getting on for 1,750,000 people in less than a week. Let me know when the Labour List response gets a tenth of that. That will be never.
If it does it will be down to Gordon pride hitting refresh over and over!
So apologising is okay then is it. Gordon Pride.
Now we know Labour party is full of wankers for sure, I want to know whether Timney also claimed Tissues at the expense of the Taxpayer.
The reason Nu Lie bore have survived is the leftie comics are not taking the piss out of them. Can you imagine what would happen if the Tories were in this type of sleazy trouble.
As for your silly useless youtube video, I will raise you; here is a link to the Daily Mash.
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/politics-headlines/dirty-bombs-not-that-dirty%2c-claims-smith-200903301671/
Gordon_Pride says:
March 30, 2009 at 4:59 pm
This is populist, demagoguic, rabble-rousing nonsense. MPs aren’t breaking the law by claiming these expenses. Unlike Aitken, Hamilton, Archer et al. Labour’s MPs might have made a few mistakes but at least they apolgised and are getting on with the job. It’s not like the Tories are whiter than white – they claim just as much expenses as Labour.
BTW who has seen Go Fourth’s clever response to Dan Hannan?
Already 1,000 and counting!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v= Feck off you troll
ALREADY 1,00 AND COUNTING ???
WHAT A JOKE,
ALTHOUGH IT IS ALREADY 998 MORE THAN LOOK AT LABOURLIST
DON’T EXPECT ME TO ADD TO THAT
YOU ARE DRAPER, AND I CLAIM MY £5
Let us know when the Comes 4th’s response gets to a significant percentage* of the number of views of Gordon picking his nose.
* i.e >0.5%
Having read the Gordon, Harman and Inquisition posts I am sure that all three would therefore agree with me that the Great Leader must resolve this tory troughing situation immediately (he has the whipped majority to impose a change) and move to cancel the current system for MP’s expenses.
There is no need to increase salaries during these delicate times. In practical terms the expenses arrangement can be replaced with (a) vouchers for Travelodge (b) a typing pool and (c) access to a stationery cupboard. I think for once we all agree, comrades, and I consider it a point of honour for you that this message is taken back to the Dear One and that he announces the new system as early as possible and installs it in time for the return after the summer recess (giving ample time for MP’s to alter their arrangements).
If the Dear Leader simply wants faux reviews and grandstanding then we can draw our own conclusions. Come on people, do it; you have the power, not the tories, remember? It would also save all the blood and guts when Dave has to do it anyway (just went partisan for a moment then, forgive me).
….against 1.65 million on the original. bets on for 2 million?
Just a question. As Gerry Adams refuses to take his seat at Westminster, how is he entitled to £20k and more as a second home allowance?
Same question can be asked of Martin McGuinness. Remember, they also “coin it” from Stormont!
add Alex Salmond to the list £133k in total for his second job…not home!!!
Short answer: Danegelt.
Thieving and lying hoons.
Don’t ignore that some of those MPs (such as Tony Blair) weren’t there the full year, so couldn’t claim the full allowance. And some of them (eg Gordon Brown) lived in grace-and-favour homes all year so why on earth are they claiming close to the maximum?
Even Gordon is at it. Is Number 10 not good enough?
Why second home stuff? The fool’s been living above the shop for free for 12 years – with Chequers thrown in for weekend raves.
I would argue an MP is a bit thick if they are NOT claiming their maximum allowance (as long as they live sifficiently far away from Westminster to justify the spirit of the claim)
We would all max it out too, if it meant the ddifference in affording a studio flat in London or a 2 bed penthouse with concierge!
The rules do however need changing, make the lesser of the two homes claimable, thereby forcing MPs who wish to live a lavish lifestyle to at least pay for the pricer pad themselves.
Just you watch the Expenses claims tumble!
You forget that this is supposed to be public service. There is an ideal involved here; of doing one’s duty to the country and the people one represents. They should not want to “max it out” while they can, rather they should be claiming as little as possible. I am definitely in favour of a block of flats for the MPs being bought, and each MP being given the option of having a room there. No ‘second home’ BS.
GORDON PRIDE. You try it then! and you will be before the courts quicker than greased lightning!
They are, mostly all, claiming as much as they can. How on God’s earth can Brown justify a claim of £111.536. How can Cameron justify £19.626 for staying away from Main Home??? How can Clegg justify £141.934
IT IS TIME FOR EVERY CITIZEN TO RESOLVE TO VOTE FOR A COMPLETELY NEW MEMBER OF PARLIAMENT IN EVERY CONSTITUENCY. If they be from the ‘fringe’ party’s such as BNP or UKIP or GREEN SO BE IT. They can do no worse than this shower.
LET US RID OUR LAND OF THESE PEOPLE ALL MAKING MONEY ON OUR BACKS!!!
Time for 650 independent MPs
Yes please – my Hoon has gobbled the maximum and can’t possibly have spent more than £3k on fares – it’s only 90mins from my constituency to Westminster.
To spend £23k would mean staying in a hotel every single night Parliament sat.
I don’t think so. I am so fucked off. All my taxes for last year are in his bank account – tax free.
Brown’s lot are appalling and this information is a real public service. Another would be an A-Z of MPs and what they’ve been nailed for. People’s memories grow hazy after a while and so a work of reference is called for. This would also protect the innocent with similar names!
By the way, would it not have neatly cut out the professional pornographer if the Home Secretary’s husband had simply asked Nigel Griffiths for some home-made material. Is Labour incapable of joined-up thinking?
Why pay at all for something that is free on the interweb? But it’s not their money is it.
Mr Smith was probably taking the pics for Nigel and… that brunette… wasn’t called Jacqui by any chance?
And indeed a bunch of them claim exactly £23,083. Cohen, Connarty, Conway, Cook, and Cooper are even next to each other on the list!
The gang of five.
C for Huhnes.
These 2nd home costs of 20k a year: is that mostly to offset the interest on mortgages?
If so it would go some way to explaining why interest rates are plumetting and the gov are doing anything in their power to keep house prices high.
After all, these days 20k a year covers the interest on about 1/2 a million pound mortgage….
If they have taken out a tracker mortgage, than the banks are almost paying their mortgages too!
The banks?
You mean the taxpayer bailout surely
Thanks for leaving us £135 Jaqi! How very good of you!
‘My name is Maximus Allowancicus Claimicus, commander of the Formulas of the North, General of the Supine Voters, loyal servant to the God Greed. Father/Mother to a murdered system. And the voters will have their vengeance, in this life or the next.’
Don’t worry, I’m sure the £135 quid was a mistake. She probably thought she’d already maxed out.
Or perhaps her husband ordered a rubber doll for £135 quid, but was too ashamed to take delivery?
bloody hell, the trolls are out in force. Wonder how much of the 10k comms allowance pays for these childish, low IQ, labour loving, keyboard monkeys?
although I suspect that HP is actually a wind-up poster, I’ve seen non insulting, right wing posts under the HP name in other blogs.
Don’t forget that these expenses, for normal plebs, would be after tax is paid. They get ‘em tax paid i.e. real worth is actually higher i.e. worth 66% more!
What I mean to say after spitting blood is that for you or I to pay 23 grand out we’d have to earn 34.5 grand. troughing Huhnes
No, 69.5 % more actually, allowing for 1% NI it is 1/0.59 = 1.695.
Yes! I say increase the salaries and get rid of expenses. But, as our MPs are really now only rubber stamping decisions made by unelected Commissioners in Brussels, we certainly don’t need so many. Cut the number to half and then, even with the increased salaries, the taxpayer gets a productivity payoff.
Higher salaries might even attract some candidates whose IQs have made it into double figures rather than the failed teachers, second rate lawyers and out and out chancers that currently seem to fill the chamber.
Bah, £135 is generous, My MP Paul Farrelly didn’t leave a penny.
The above chart will probably appear on Labourpissed eventually…minus Guido’s head of course. Dolly will have substituted his own effigy…the head of a dirty, greasy, smelly tramp.
Total expenses claimed competition:-
1st (gold medal) Ann Keen (Lab), £167,306
2nd (silver medal) Fabian Hamilton (Lab), £159,035
3rd (bronze medal) David Borrow (Lab), £158,361
Not exactly household names are they? Maybe expenses claimed are in some way inversely proportional to the amount of work these tossers do.
About time to look at the Lords now and who claims what expenses.
Never mind expenses!
I’ve just read that Gordon Brown has missed two high-level photo calls with senior international politicians in the past week, because he was busy having a dump!
That’s right, Gordo was having a crap so they took the photos without him.
Don’t you think that’s peculiar?
You know. And we know. And you know that we know the reason for this. It’s very simple. Before these photographs the local protocol people show a schematic of where everybody is to stand. The pecking order for these pics is very important. Obviously Brown is being told to stand just to the left on the back row between the education secretary for Bolivia and the Columbian health secretary.
So he suddenly feels the news to excuse himself before the official pic wings its way around the world and his position in the ranks of international politicians is exposed for all to see.
That’s why he can’t wait for the G20. Because he gets to decide who stands where. He’ll be front and centre with Obama. And Sarkozy and Merkel (the traitors) will be on the back row with the Greeks. And the Queen.
…but sarkozy might still blow the whole thing up by not coming! Way to go M le President make Brown pay.
Brown boy in the pan.
i like gold
I notice the wintertons are still claiming nearly £30k,you’d haev thought the mortgage had been paid off by now……………..oooh sorry it has.
have any of these actually got a mortgage?
Look here, even if they were still paying for a mortage, and I am not saying they aren’t, it is in the ‘spirit’ of the rules that allowances are given for the situations in which people are still paying off a mortgage.
half of all MPs claiming 90%+ of the maximum? Well surely that just means the maximum isn’t enough!
Kidding folks.
Oh and my bete noir Jamie Reed claiming as much for staff as the Home Secretary? Troughing Hoon.
A dustman comes by one morning and finds a chinese guy sitting on his front step but no sign of his rubbish so he asks him “where’s your bin mate” to which he replies “I bin Hong Kong, saw family”. Slightly confused the dustman tries again a bit slower “No, where’s your bin”. “Hong Kong, I told you, just got back” replies the chinese guy. A bit frustrated the Dustman tries one last time “no no no. Where’s your wheelie bin”Indignatly the Chinese guy replies ‘…ok, ok, I wheelie bin havin a wank.
“Hallo, mate?” “No fanks, I rive in Isrington”.
oh ian dale you little minx
went over to labour list to see if it was discussing “wankergate” , says he was quite surprised they werent despite it being a sit where “labour come together”
ha ha ha ha
as for national troughing competion , it is quite clear some have done very well under labour , vey nice nest eggs , very few capital risks to take , salary just goes straight in the bank .
funny how so many are now appearing saying now is a good time to sort it out , mmmm as guido may say “wasnt 1, 2 5 or 12 years agon a good time to sort it out”??
as for whistle blower , i would think saving even 10% of the 65 million lavished on mps this year is worth a medal for them .
dont know if you noticed by jaqui smiths advisor (peter timerly her husband) is also the person that does her expenses , sorts them and submitts them , clearly an expert them ??
Thatcher made me do it.
MasterBate®
Gay Premuim Content £10
Home Secretary’s downfall…Priceless
The British people have had enough of your sordid, sub-Daily Mail mock moral outrage.
Watch this:
The only way you have of rebutting Dan Hanan is to try to drown him out with music, the internet version of putting your fingers in your ears and shouting la la la la la.
Sorry to burst your bubble but most of the British people have had enough of your sordid sub-government. I watched this pile of crap and judging by the tone of most of the comments the majority viewed the send up as complete bollocks. Now fuck off silly troll.
Well done Guido – Investigative Journalism is not dead!
http://tinyurl.com/dhnnxz Hyacynth
Only at the BBC!
Well done Guido – Investigative Journalism is not dead…….
http://tinyurl.com/dhnnxz
it might make sense, when the receipted items are finally published, for each subscriber here to examine closely their own MP and in the extremely unlikely event that any of the ‘honourable’ members have made questionable claims they could be brought too this board for a little discussion.
Well done Guido – Investigative Journalism is not dead!
http://tinyurl.com/dhnnxz
MPs TO EDIT EXPENSES BEFORE PUBLICATION: THE GOVERNMENT ARE SHITTING IN OUR FACES
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MPs TO EDIT EXPENSES BEFORE PUBLICATION: THE GOVERNMENT ARE SHITTING IN OUR FACES
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MPs TO EDIT EXPENSES BEFORE PUBLICATION: THE GOVERNMENT ARE SHITTING IN OUR FACES
deceitful bastards. this, of course, is their out for when published totals don’t match don’t match receipts totals. Such editing could and should have been done before the receipts were input to the system but that might have saved some of taxpayers’ money. thieving bastards
Well done Guido – Investigative Journalism is not dead!
http://tinyurl.com/dhnnxz
David Cameron
£19,626 £0 £7,588 £103,630 £2,594 £4,399 £1,294 £5,412 £2,200
Total £146,743
plus Lord Ashcroft and sundry City spread betting chaps including Spencer, Fink and Wheeler ?!?!?!
Financial misconduct = Conservatives
Yeah, but we expect better from the government.
Financial misconduct while in government = New Labour
Please excuse my brother
His dick is very small.
Minimal Penetration= The Inquisition.
Not a very good Inquisitor if you’re trying to turn this on the Tories…..
ZaNuLabour have been in power for years and not tackled the problem.
They are not grown up to do anything about it – and when challenged they are as immature as a schoolkid caught with a porn mag… rather than just take the punishment and do something about it they say “but look at him miss”!
Remember the Lords for hire….they dragged in Lord Archole into the equation…
Now they seek to drag the Tories into the troughing scandal….
Yes they are all at it – but for me it is worse if (1) You are in Government (2) You have done nothing about it over the years (3) You are in a senior Cabinet position and are screwing it when you should be saving the taxpayer a fortune and living in a Grace and Favours appartment rather than dossing down in your sisters spare room
Them big boys made me do it an’ then they ran away! (sob)
Tax payer funded wanking = Labour
Get your own house in order before lecturing others. Glasshouses etc…
This really is most unfair, my friends and colleagues go to a great deal of trouble to keep this sort of information private.
Too right. This is a national scandal. Luckily Dawn Butler’s outrageous claims may hide the fact that I travel into London by private train.
How do you expect Jacqui Smith to afford all those late night trips to the kebab shop?
Dennis Skinner managing to scam £60K – only about half the average trough yield. Pricipled or just out of the loop?
Thick.
If you have half a mind to be a Labour MP, then you already exceed the requirements
For MPs to claim a total of £90 million for expenses in one year is outrageous.
This has to be the last time this happens.
It is no good, either, looking at increasing their pay to cover such frivolity.
It is not acceptable.
Let them eat cake
I see Babs Follett who lives 18 mins from Kings X, claimed over £22k second home allowance. One would have thought that as she and her husband are multi-millionaires she doesn’t have a mortgage; need additional housing costs; and has no reason not to travel home most nights…..unless she is an immoral greedy thief that is.
What a surprise that grabber Prescott grabs the maximum….as for ‘Thieving’ Harry Cohen, what a slimeball
Hoons all of them. Ali Brown and the 650 Hoons.
Dear Guido,
I am what them Rozzers call a “lady of the night”, you have now entered the realm of being ” a right gent” by posting what them honourable bastards screw us for (I paid more taxes today and boy am I hooning angry!!!) my favours for an honest gold sovereign are yours. I know’s that Jackie Smith is cheaper but at least I’ is an honest whore.
The Ballard of the Second Home Secretary
(to be sung to the tune of “My Darling Clementine”)
Oh there was a lovely lady
Into Parliament she came,
She was clever and hard-working
Lovely Jacqui was her name.
She rose to a high position,
Such an admirable fate,
Got a job in the Home Office
As the Secretary of State.
When she stood at the dispatch box
All MPs were thrilled to bits,
Not from listening to her speeches
But from staring at her tits.
She worked hard to make us safer,
And to keep us in our place.
Taking DNA, ID cards
On a massive database.
But this work and all the travelling
Started driving her beserk
So she moved in with her sister
To be closer to her work.
Some said that she didn’t live there
Only stayed a night or two,
But it said so on her expenses
So of course it must be true.
But while she stayed with her sister
Working hard by day and night,
Dick, her husband, sorely missed her,
Just as any Dicky might.
Oh how tragic, oh how lonely
For our poor forgotten Dick,
So he took a box of tissues
And he watched an adult flick.
When the movie was all over
And our Dick had had his thrill,
Adult movies must be paid for,
So our Dick was sent the bill.
When the time had come to pay it
He was short a bob or two,
So he claimed it on expenses:
What a silly thing to do!
Oh the press found out about it
And our Jacqui saw with rage
That her husband’s adult habits
Were splashed over the front page.
There’s a moral to this story:
If you haven’t had a lay
And you’re watching smutty movies,
Don’t expect your wife to pay.
An MP called Ms. J. Boot
Couldn’t keep her hands off our loot,
With her lies and defenses
And fiddled expenses
She’s not a woman you’d say was astute.
In fact she’s corrupted by greed
(Her every word intends to mislead)
And while her snout’s in the trough
Her man gets himself off
(But she’s got nice tits, I concede)
Old Jackboots Hubbard went to the cupboard
To get her poor doggy a bone.
But when she bent over, Rover took over
And gave her a bone of her own.
What kind of wanker actually pays for porn! And then even charges it to expenses!
FFS we know they’ve got the internet, there’s a lifetime of free porn available out there.
I suppose he might have decided not to breach porno copyright law and be a real knock off Nigel, or maybe he was worried that his Mrs was using her vast database to track his internet usage.
Nigel Hollobone deserves a mention
£40,333. Total.
£22,999 of which is his second home allowance and only about £8,000 for staffing and office costs.
Maybe he just isn’t doing much all day.
“Half of MPs Claim Within 10% of the Maximum”
the rest are just fucking stupid
We don’t have a government, we have a fucking pig farm. Thieving bastards.
“The curtains remained drawn today at Ms Smith’s constituency home in Redditch, where her husband issued an apology yesterday.”
From the Daily Mail.
Hardly surprising, you don’t want the neighbours seeing you Jacquing off to some porno movie!!
He’s getting on with the job. A hand job that is.
Jacquing off
Love it
A new phrase enters the english language
Genius! Jacquing off…
[...] fact, thanks to Guido Fawkes’ speedy grasp of the figures, we can see that around half of the 646 Members of Parliament claim [...]
My lazy shit of an MP is claiming £23,083 second home allowance – more than my entire fucking salary!
OK, I’ve crunched some numbers from that pdf file:
Most expensive MP is Ann Keen (Lab, Hounslow) £167,306
Followed by…
Fabian Hamilton (Lab, NE Leeds) £159,035
David Borrow (Lab, South Ribble) £158,361
Ben Wallace (Con, Lancaster) £157,599
Michael Connarty (Lab, Linlithgow & Falkirk East) £156,207
James Duddridge (Con, Rochford) £156,040
Norman Lamb (Lib Dem, North Norfolk) £155,937
Liam Byrne (Lab, Hodge Hill) £155,705
Diana Johnson (Lab, Hull North) £155,655
Cheapest is
Phillip Hollobone (Con, Kettering) £40,433
followed by
Dennis Skinner (Lab, Bolsover) £60,521
Hope you can read this fucking thing because it’s still scrolling off to the left. GUIDO????
Install IE 8 and use the compliance tool to left of the refresh button; should work unless you are into Firefox or somesuch Mozilla
Philip Hollobone might be the cheapest MP, but he still claims 99.6% of the 2nd house cash.
And about 7k of that on tranport.
Drop the jocks and save a fortune.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7973075.stm
Its a good job Glorious Leader and his wise thinking about scrapping 2nd home allowances!
Yeah. He ‘thinks’ about it and suddenly the whole Wankergate (t)issue gets moved to the sidebar on the BBC.
Nice one lads.
In new news the Great Leader ‘thinks’ about running an economy without recourse to the printing press. Only ‘thinks’ mind you. What fucking choice does he have without cutting the public payroll by 20%.
All expenses should be scrapped, why the fuck should jacqui smitt get taxpayers money to cover her full blown necro-porn addiction.
I refer the honourable ‘members’ to my comment No: 48
Well it was 48 now it’s 56!
Most expensive MP is Ann Keen (Lab, Hounslow) £167,306
Followed by…
Fabian Hamilton (Lab, NE Leeds) £159,035
And the useless Fabian Hamilton doesn’t do Fridays and rarely speaks. Though to be fair he made a fine speech in defence of Peter Hain’s unfair treatment.
And he has a blg with no fucking comments and hardly any entries.
Useless fucker. He’s toast at the next election.
Fabian Hamilton? Fucking ‘Fabian’? And all we hear are Labour wankers and their wanking spouses going on about Tory toffs and Bullingdon club? And yet the class warriors of Leeds (NE) will elect somebody whose parents thought it a fucking good idea to call him ‘Fabian’ as befits their strongly held political beliefs no doubt.
Where did ‘Fabian’ go to school. Because unless he was about six foot eight he’d have been kicked to death in my (grammar) school purely on account of his fucking poncey, pretentious name.
Yes, Fabian. The London-born son of a solicitor and a judge who worked as an Apple Mac systems consultant. My word, what a horny-handed son of Northern toil he sounds.
just sent the following email. Bet I don’t get a reply.
Dear Mr Hamilton,
as a constituent, might I ask a question.
I have just read that you are the 10th most expensive MP, and that you claim the full second home allowance of £23,083.
Bearing in mind that you are appear to stay in London for only three nights a week (please correct me if your website has given me the wrong impression), and that parliament sat for only 33 weeks last session; how can you justify such a cost?
And bearing in mind it is most unlikely that you actually spent exactly £23,083; does this mean you are subsidising your accommodation costs out of your own pocket, and that you will be campaigning for a higher allowance to mitigate your losses?
As a floating voter I look forward to your response.
My MP takes over £127,000 in expenses, including over £90,000 in staffing. Who is he bloody employing, a small army? Labour of course.
The Politics of the future.
Politics is currently in need of a change but not to the Conservatives. The Jacqui Smith debacle is a totem of the failed Tory allowance system introduced in the 1980’s. No wonder the Tories dare not challenge, criticise or condemn the Home Secretary in a forthright way as some Tories are as guilty as their Labour contemporaries.
In times of economic collapse this country needs Socialism to rebuild or replace the industries destroyed by the Tory governments in the 1980’s. David Cameron talks about quality of life being as important as economic growth, it is therefore a logical step to take the unemployed and put them into work to improve those people’s quality of life. State socialism or state industries can play a part in this process. For instance the manufacture and production of green technologies could enable Britain to become free of the oil cartels of the Middle East, providing jobs and skills academies for the processes that will keep the lights on in the future. This is not picking winners but a matter of energy security, likewise national defence has a ready pool of young people who could be forced into the discipline of the army.
The kind of socialism I am outlining does not mean high taxes but using the potential of the people for the people. This state socialism would centre on job creation, the taxes on private sector jobs would be removed and a more simple way of a single low level of income tax would be initiated. Unemployment would be effectively swept away and a skills council bringing together not employers and government but employees, employer and government together to patch any skills gap up.
Immigration would be banned and all Immigration would be reversed within the last 12 years. We would withdrawal from the political EU bloc but maintain trade relations and the social chapter.
My view of the future is National Socialism with a human face, no concentration camps, ID cards or Stasi Police but the hand of the state helping the poor into work whilst the invisible hand of the market in a low taxation economy optimises the people’s wealth.
A wealthy nation is not just an economically viable one but a socially cohesive one – National Socialism enables the weak to become strong whilst the perpetrators of violence, injustice and national defeatism are reformed to work within the new system. National Socialism does not necessarily equate with racism – it means cutting away at the cancer in society and repelling the virus of immigration that is resulting in overcrowding and ethnic tension.
Thank you for your time. We’ll let you know.
Of course, let’s hand more power to government because I’m sure they will use it wisely and in the best interests of the people.
On second thought, I prefer to keep what little liberty I have left, thank you.
So…..you think we should be sort of camp nazis….
Erm.
NURSE!!!
You may say no ID cards, no stasi etc, but I doubt a government endowed with so much power would respect our liberty for long. The only difference between a welfare state and a police state is a matter of time. I doubt when Labour came to power in 1997 they thought ID cards, ubiquitous CCTV, perpertual foreign wars, spy laws, infringements of privacy, DNA databases etc etc would be desirable, but history has shown otherwise. When a government adopts the mantra “the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few”, what usually follows is a dictatorial government, coerced labour, and the trampling of minority rights, with the smallest minority being the individual. Real liberty can only be preserved in the presence of a constitutionally limited government, where the rights and freedom of the individual are held to be sacred, and not sacrificed for the benefit of those in government, or even their fellow countrymen.
So if taxes are lowered, how to we pay off Brown’s debt? It’s already bigger than that for WWII and rising.
Start by changing the name you dumb chunk–National Socialism was TM
I always thought National Socialism died in the rubble and ruins of Berlin in 1945. The weak were definately strong then as they coward in the rubble of their broken homes hiding from Russian T34′s.
BTW Where would all these immigrants go from the last 12 years would you be forcefully repatriating them? What would you do if their country of origin refused to have them back? Rehouse them in special camps?
Socialism has never managed to create new real jobs just beaurocracy and failed nationalised industries, just take a look at Labours terrible record.
dear new days , you seem to have plagarised hansel and grettle , i followed the trail of sweets , and realised that you are saying socialism doesnt need to be like this what we have with mc stalin . oh no it can be the joy de verve like in err , in err , in err . oh day malfunction . everywhere they have doen it its ended up insome sort mass opression killing field .
when you tell me why socialism always produces , gangsters , corruption and societiel depression , i might give it a bit more time .
for now though i cant afford your expenseive sweets , the wolf is at the door , the eagle has flown off , the bear is having fits , the dragon is booming and the lion has been bummed to death under the guise of quantative easing .
tell the fairy tale to the rich public sector , but for equalities sake dont forget to remind them , that savings if allowed to be personal , useually lead to people being more careful .
who let the banks go broke , nu labour , your modern day socialists , working to a 1960s student rebellious concept , hope your not in with them new days
Mandy would like to ofer a helping hand to Mr Timney.
Spellman still has one of the highest (nanny) staff expenses => £13,897
Not an apologist for her but staffing costs plus office costs plus “staff cover” (the figure you refer to) cumulatively one of the low ones not high ones. I can only assume once bitten twice shy?
Reply – I explicitly said NO ID Cards, Stasi or Concentration camps.
in his letter to standards and privileges committee, Brown is suggesting that the ACA for greaqter London should be dropped or to put it another way, he too realises the claims of McNulty and Smith are out of order. take note John Lyon
Again, I refer the honourable ‘members’ to my comment No: 56 above.
Hazel Blears ‘ husband spends £2600 on 6 train journeys, paid for by taxpayers!
2600 on 6 train journeys? Is he accompanied by a sedan chair carried by topless Page 3 lovelies? Where, the fuck, is he travelling from at 2600/6 = 433 quid per ticket? Seriously? I travelled across Russia into China last summer for a fraction of that. Nine fucking days in a train. Sleeper compartment. I could probably have travelled through the channel tunnel, Germany, Poland and all the way to fucking Beijing and still had change.
433 quid? Couldn’t he have got a chauffeur driven limo. A guy with a top hat and white gloves for less?
Who pays for Voldemadny’s rent boys? Can they not be mentioned either, just like his Brazilian ex-fudge nurse?
Apparently MP spouses/lovers are allowed 30 free trips to London each parliament, paid for by taxpayers!
Channel 4 news is suggesting that Broown is to scrap allowances and replace them with a “fairer” basic salary for MP’s as soon as possible.
How convenient for him and other exiting Labour MP’s and Ministers, likely to lose their seats/jobs in 15 months time.
- the “fairer basic salary” will be pensionable and the pension based on the MPs final salary – the year before they’re sacked by the electorate.
Much fairer!
NOT
Peter Hain managed a tidy £151,000.
Funny how he managed to get his sums spot on with his exes when he got into all that silly muddle with the (non) election money.
why on earth am I paying for Hazel Blears husbands 6 train journeys, what does he to do that he can claim on MP allowances, mind you what does she do that she can claim them.
Fucking hell
he has to shag that demented gnome
I say we give him a Knighthood.
Then burn them both alive.
A fairer basic salary would be around £30,000. And don’t bother adding housing expenses. Let them experience the financial struggle well-known to the common (wo)man.
Fuck me 20 grand to live away from home ?
Most of us dont even earn 20k let alone get it in extras.
Fucking pigs the lot of them.
David Blunkett’s entry in the register of interests since 2002 has said “Second home in London, from which I temporarily receive rental income.” 07/08 claim includes £23,083 for “staying away from main home” and this isn’t new for this year.
Britain needs you – I want you to do the auditing!
I see Jackboot’s hubby has apologised “for the uncomfortable and embarrassing position I put her in…..The position in question was flat on her back, with her feet behind her ears, and her kebab wide open like a trouts mouth. Just like in me pornos.”
I read that dirty goit Frtizl got his daughter to act out scenes from pornos. Do you think Jakie likes a bit of acting after a hard day at the trough???
Huhnes.
Is there such a thing as a second Hoon allowance?
Fuck me one Hoon is bad enough
HRH karlos
we have two chambers full of Hoons
If someone was going to give loads of coin for doing fuck all, plus loads of expenses for living in me tin tent at the side of me house when the leccy goes off, I’d take it!
I would not however claim a tenner for a crafty one off the wrist, if me mates found out, they would take the piss for ever!
If I was ‘im indoors, I would have calluses and hairy palms!
Scum.
Let’s march on Parliament, everyone with a plackard depicting Jacqui’s husband’s favourite activity, summing up the whole bunch of w……s for what they are. And PLEASE let’s not forget the MEP’s – those guys really know how it’s done.
[...] Guido has reported that half of MPs claim within 10% of the maximum on the second home allowances, and that on average Conservative MPs cost us the least. Conservative MP Philip Hollobone continues to employ no staff whatsoever and carries out his duties entirely on his own, reports Con Home. [...]
Parliament are a bunch of amateurs at this expenses game, check out the MEP expenses. They are just about to vote themselves a 47% pay rise later this year.
Should we not withold payments or get back the €8bn rebate that the NuLab muppets gave away to reform the CAP which then of course never occurred.
Also a great idea to pay in € so we have lost another +20% there as well in recent months.
Good to see they are saving a bit though by commandeering a train once a month to go from Brussels to Strasburg, apparently saves money and is green. Probably not saving as much as not doing it.
You couldn’t make this up.
[...] no problem with a man standing up for his views, whether I disagree or not. Yet days earlier he was lambasting the greed of MPs in the expenses scandal. Now before people hit back with “…but MPs are claiming at the expense of the [...]