Lynton Crosby Advising Libertas on Euro-Campaign
Isaby has scooped another story for ConservativeHome, the news that Lynton Crosby is advising Declan Ganley on running a slate of candidates in Britain for June’s European elections. Guido suggested early on that the Tories should have associated themselves with the Libertas pan-European ticket. Maybe they felt there was little to be gained in doing so in the UK. In the wider post-EPP environment after the election it might have been useful, assuming Libertas win any seats.
Lynton is a business-like strategist, he knows he has three major problems; firstly the policy position taken by Libertas is nearly the same as the Conservative stance towards the EU, secondly British voters who are particularly interested in the EU tend to UKIP. His third problem is name recognition, few have heard of Libertas. Will be fascinating to see what strategy he comes up with since Crosby has a reputation as a realist when it comes to campaigning. If he wins a single UK seat he will have done well.
UPDATE : The Fink asks Is Libertas Pointless? He basically draws a venn diagram of potential voters and finds the Libertas subset to be very small.
I hope he’s got a bullet proof vest.
EU = £52billion per year minimum – ergo: OUT!!
So what would happen if we didn’t pay the subscription to the EU? They’d whinge and moan but they wouldn’t chuck us out would they. We’d have all the benefits with none of the costs, result!!
If you don’t think it would work, what about the UN? Loads of countries don’t pay their dues but they still get the membership.
Now the UK is in a state of “Quantative easing” when will the ECB start printing money?
What about cost savings? Are the going to start handing out the Euro equivalent of P45s? Close the Strasbourg sit and turn it in to a theme park?
The EU is NuLab to the power of 10. Fuck that for a game of soldiers.
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That’s very gentlemanly of you, Maister Fawkes. What’s wrong?
If he is going to spam the comments, he could at least do it neatly.
So that’s how many parties lined up on an anti-EU slate? Way to shatter the vote, lads.
It’s people, the electorate, who count, not political parties.
Fuck me, your right! Someone had better tell Dave quick
LIBERTAS is one of the UKs most popular Jam Rags.
9/10 pussys prefer it.
No disrespect to Lynton Crosby,Just shoot the graphic designer.
Who gives a fuck about what these right-wing tossers say or do? Little englanders led by a plastic paddy. How ironically…
Fucking delicious!
Wots wrong with Little Englanders?
No Illegal wars,No Grandstanding on the world stage and No turning our country into a one stop shop for the planets sick lame and lazy.
P.I.G.S.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahah…………hahaha…ha
unlike the great UK
“if you liked Albania, you’re gonna love England England 2015″
Racist about two groupings in one comment! Of course, sorry. It’s OK and right on to be racist about the white English, isn’t it?
What is wrong with having an English identity FD? Scotland has a nationalist party called the SNP with representation in Westminster and Holyrood, Wales has a nationalist party called Plaid Cymru with representation in Westminster and Cardiff, so what should England have F.D.?
Do you hear the English sneer and refer to “Wee Scottish” or “Cymraeg bach”. If England, Scotland and Wales split, which of the three would have the most successful economy?
This government’s anti English bias came out in the balkanisation of regional assemblies that Prescott tried to foist upon the English. The electorate didn’t want it but that didn’t stop Labour going ahead anyway. Regional assemblies: unelected, unaccountable and undemocratic.
“Little englanders” “Plastic Paddy” I think that is meant to be offensive to racial groups. Does Trevor Phillips know about you FD?
It never gets mentioned much, if at all, but Prezza’s efforts to foist regional assemblies via referendum applied only after one had already been imposed, with no consultation whatsoever, on the East of England. This is how they got their spiteful plan to build millions of Barratt Boxes all over the south east. Well those fuckers all vote Tory don’t they? So THIS is a great way instigate some punishment. Blanket social housing filled with ZaNuLiebour clients. As far as I know this plan still stands.
“If he wins a single UK seat he will have done well.”
Who are we talking about?
Gordon?
Have Libertas got a website? If so, I can’t find one.
Great start for a party that wants to take over Europe.
Eh? Couldn’t find libertas.co.uk ? It seems strangely compelling.
Or if you have a sudden attack of nerdishness, there’s always libertas.eu. Rather more boring, though.
How unfortunate. There I was Googling for a nice bit of girl-on-girl action and up comes this dreary political site.
So what!
If we do leave the UK, we’d save a vast amount of money, take control of our borders and the rights of our people – that’s just for starters. Would the EU object? Of course, less trough money for them and the PIGS, but would individual states in the EU sanction of stop trading with the UK. No. There would be some sanctimonious wittering for a few weeks and then we’d all just get on with it.
The first responsibility of a government is the security of the people and defence of the country. On that basis alone, the NuLabour junta regime is proven disloyal and incompetent and an incoming government duty bound to honour its responsibilities by leaving this corrupt and corrupting institution immediately.
Given most polls in European countries I’ve studied that given the chance to exercise their rapidly diminishing democratic rights – most Europeans would vote to liberate their countries from the EU and disband the institution or reduce it back to a trading organisation only.
Amen! The sooner we decamp from this piece of shit part of the NWO meisterplan the better. I never understand why McSnot and Cameron can speak as if they have any control over this burned out wreck of a country, when in effect they only have the power of a parish council chief. It’s rotten to the core, it can’t even get its accounts signed off for fucks sake! Our mediocre political class are like weak 1970′s Maxwell House instant coffee, anyone who can remember that crappy beverage will recall its lack of impact on the taste buds, no effect whatsoever, I’m always reminded of this when I see any of these Hoons on the TV. They talk absolute bollocks but never mention the elephant in the room, the poxy EU! Out and out now! EU president Tony Bliar, I mean how fucking awful is that?
AS REPORTED BY THE DAILY MAIL WEBSITE
Former Labour MP was today given a conditional discharge after being found guilty of using threatening words and behaviour to hotel bar staff.
Helen Clark, who represented Peterborough, Cambridgeshire between 1997 and 2005, was convicted after a two-day trial at Peterborough magistrates court.
Clark, who had denied any offence, was found not guilty of being drunk and disorderly.
Prosecutors alleged that Clark, a 54-year-old former English teacher, lost her temper after bar staff refused to serve her more alcohol in the Great Northern Hotel in Peterborough during the afternoon of Sunday June 15, 2008.
They alleged Clark had told another customer to ‘f*** off, p*** off” and had called a barmaid ‘Portuguese b****’.
The court heard that Clark, her husband Alan and a friend had been drinking from around midday to around 5pm while discussing politics.
Clark told the court that she had downed ‘in the order of’ a bottle of Sauvignon Blanc.
But she denied being drunk and denied telling anyone to ‘f*** off or p*** off”, calling anyone a ‘b*****’ or calling a barmaid ‘Portuguese b****’.
Part of the episode was filmed on a barmaid’s mobile phone – and footage was shown in court.
In the film, Clark was seen holding her head in her hands and screaming and shouting.
She was heard to ask a barmaid: ‘Why was I treated like a **** in here … I have been humiliated here.’
The court heard that the mobile phone footage later appeared on the internet site YouTube.
District Judge Nicholas Leigh-Smith said prosecutors had not proved Clark was drunk and disorderly but had proved she was guilty of using threatening words and behaviour.
Judge Leigh-Smith said Clark had had a ‘preoccupation with self and self-image’.
He added: ‘I am satisfied the behaviour on the whole was threatening and abusive. It was certainly disorderly. Mrs Clark was clearly out of control.’
Judge Leigh-Smith said he was not satisfied Clark had called anyone ‘a b****’, and he was satisfied that she had not called anyone ‘f****** b****’.
He imposed a two-year conditional discharge and ordered her to pay £800 court costs.
After the hearing Clark, who told the court she now worked as a freelance teacher, examiner and journalist, refused to comment.
But her lawyer, Andrew Cave, said she had lodged an appeal against the verdict.
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Ironically The Great Northern Hotel went bust a couple of months ago and admistrators were accepting sealed bids for the pile up until yesterday. The hotel formerly owned by Peter Boizots failed company Mistvalley Limited, the company also owned The broadway theatre which went up in flames a couple of months ago. Flame grilled pizza anyone? or how about sone stinking fish????!
Typical. And no doubt without the video evidence this paragon of the community would have walked free without being found guilty of anything.
Even as it is with fucking video evidence of her clear familiarity with anglo-saxon the judge declares himself satisfied she didn’t call a member of staff a ‘f****** b****’. He doesn’t even say that there is no evidence that she did. Nope. She clearly didn’t say it.
Sure. Whatever you say judge.
Since the great British public are not likely to vote for these guys, who really cares what they think? It takes two or three generations for a party to get anywhere in the UK. Liebour didn’t get a majority til 1945 ( founded about 1900), the SNP have had a minority administration in Edinburgh since 2007 ( founded in 1934), and in all honesty how influential are UKIP or The Green Party?
Waste of blogging space even taliking about them..
good point
they are a big nothing
Don’t really thing parties with names ending in “eritas” are a good idea. Whatever happened to Veritas?
Veritas wasn’t a political party, it was Kilroy-Silk’s ego trip, so it ended up on ‘I’m a bell-end get me out here!’
You have the Tories, Labour, Lib Dems and now Libertas thinking they can reform the EU.
Our survey says that most want to leave the EU which leaves this particular minority field fairly crowded:
http://www.ukip.tv/?page_id=138
I wonder if Crosby has noticed that UKIP have already nicked and registered with the Electoral Commision the Libertas name?
I predict failure. The UK isn’t new to the “anti-EU” game, and already has well established parties like UKIP around. So why should they vote for what is essentially an Irish Party with British Candidates?
Libertas, what a fucking joke. Here today, gone tomorrow. They’ll get a few thousand votes overall and disappear without trace after the elections.
Why is anybody wasting time even talking about such irrelevancies?
Libertas are NOT anti-EU, just anti-Lisbon. Almost exactly like the Tories. They will pick up votes from Labour europhiles disgusted with ZaNu Labour; from those Lib Dums who are wary of the excessive EU brown nosing by the Lib Dum party machine; and from the more europhile Tories. I predict at least 4 seats in the UK for them.
The only other minor parties who can make an impact in the Euros are UKIP; BNP; ED. My view is that ZaNu and the Lib Dums will lose seats; Tories will stay approx the same; UKIP same or slightly less; BNP gains; ED gains; Libertas gains. Greens? – eco-fascists who deserve to drown in a sudden tidal surge.
So…..it could be quite a clever move by the Tories! Libert-ARSE as a sort of toxic bank for browned-orf Labs or Libs who would rather stick pins in their eyes than vote Tory….
Well….YOU Might Very Well Think That – I couldn’t possibly comment!
But clever move if one wanted to Put a Bit of Stick About….
“Libertas” What a stupid name. Sort of failed public-schooled boyish.
“Fartis” would have been better.
o\t
Graduate numbers by subject.
Chemical engineering 1997 -1189——– ——2005 – 770
Chemistry 1997 -3753—————2005 – 2710
Civil engineering 1997- 3312————- -2005 – 2515
Mechanical engineering 1997 – 3913————–2005 – 3400
Physics 1 997 – 2440————–2005 – 2235
Design studies 1997- 9,082————–2005 – 13,110
Marketing and market research 1997 – 1160—————2005 – 3550
And the old favourite, Media studies 1997 – 999—————-2005 – 5690
Difficult but worthwhile courses numbers significently down.
Easy but worthless courses significently up.
Would you encourage your child to ‘study’ for three years, leave up to their eye balls in debt to have a Media Studies Degree??
No me neither, I would rather they worked on the bins.
Another nulabour lie exposed,
W.W.
That’s why I like tuition loans!
Students will do the same Maths.
Perhaps one of those design graduates could design a machine that scans envelopes for razor blades. The local job centre has a security man (bouncer) who checks the mail for this.
This is after 12 years of New Labour!!!!!!!!!
Just a thought. If Bin Laden’s mob of fundaMENTALISTS want a really BIG follow up to 9/11, why not do the European Parliament? After all, things have been quiet on that front for a while now, what with Dubya’s ‘War on Terrurr’ and all that. If nothing else it would provide some light relief from McSnot’s messianic ramblings. Just make sure it’s when Kay Burley is on in the afternoon (don’t ask).
“British voters who are particularly interested in the EU tend to UKIP”
I have just picked up a UKIP beer mat of all things, from work, and the amount of positive comments this received was astounding, its all pub related, but my god is it getting the UKIP message out…
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LiLiberats are just another pro-federalist group hiding behind ‘reform.’ They still want in on the project – bit like Hague’s “in Europe but not run by Europe” bollocks. Trynig to reform the EU is like reforming the fucking mafia – no chance.
OOut is the only option.
totally aggree, how many anti EU parties are their now, all they are doing is to divide up the anti EU vote,
Fuck off Brown.
“Tan me hide when I’m dead, Fred
Tan me hide when I’m dead…
So they tanned his hide when he died, Clyde..
And that’s him hanging on the shed!
ALL TOGETHER NOW….
*wobbles Wobble Board*
Anything that tries to throw a spanner into the juggernaut EU project is fine by me.
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This used to be an interesting place but it’s descended into which Spad or wonk or MP is blogging or twittering about whom.
It’s disappearing up its own rectum fast and I think I know why.
Regards,
Tom
why?
What is point, Libertas? What is point?
Veritas, Libertas… they all have ass in common.
I’m amazed that so many commenters here haven’t heard of Declan Ganley or Libertas after the coverage the Irish referendum got on tv. Ganley started Libertas to fight the Irish govt’s attempt to push through the Lisbon Treaty in the referendum last year. Remember, the referendum Brown promised the British but did a U-turn on??? The referendum debate where the Lib Dems chose to demonstrate their value as a political party by sitting on the fence and NOT using their voting power? Thanks to Ganley, the Irish voters saw the dangers of Lisbon and voted it out. We then saw the undemocratic behaviour of the EU in trying to intimidate the Irish into changing their minds by using threats. Now Ganley is trying to get all of us who object to the way Europe is going a voice in EU and put enough power in our hands to stop this monster that is rapidly getting out of hand. I applaud UKIP but even if they win a couple of seats it will make little difference. Libertas is a Pan-European party. Sufficient votes for them would make a huge difference.
Any party that stops immigration, reduces the welfare state and gets us out of Europe gets my vote. Does that make me a rascist? If so then I’m rather proud of myself then.
Can someone please build a bonfire and stick the EU on it – but short of that, let’s have people they don’t have sticky fingers kicking some EU ass! Every day we wake up to more morons making rules and using our tax payers money as an IV into their coffers. I am sick to death of it. REVOLUTION!